Have I got a problem with this, absolutely not. However I’m pretty sure, intentional or not, this will help the next generation realise that the subject of gender is far more nuanced than the birds and bees simplicity of my childhood, whatever species.
Oh dear, are they worried kids won’t grow up as fucking stupid as them.
I caught a bit of an interview with Richard Dawkins on YouTube the other day.
He was asked about the statement made by someone about trans women can’t be biological women.
He did make it clear that if someone wants to call themselves a woman, that’s fine, but then went on to say the following (paraphrasing from memory)
“Biological sex is one of the few binary values in nature, with a very tiny number of exceptions”
Again, from memory, but I couldn’t help but point out the logical fallacy.
If something is binary, it’s either one thing or another, without exceptions.
It’s like me saying I designed a new computer processor that also used binary, but as well as using 1 or 0, it can also occasionally use 2, or 0.5.
People would very rightly point out, that is not binary.
Generally respect the fellow, but think he’s incorrect to describe biological sex as binary if there is even 1 instance of exceptions.
The “facts don’t care about your feelings” are surely in their feelings about some hard facts.
If we’re not careful, we’ll end up like America with parents rioting outside schools because they’ve been triggered by online hate.
It’s absolutely pathetic, people need to get a grip and realise they’re being manipulated to direct their fear and rage against the system that wears them down, towards a minority instead. History just repeats itself.
Wouldn’t this be fish changing sex?
Gender is a social construct and I highly doubt fish can engage with social constructs. It’s not like lady fish can complain about being objectified and the men fish wish they could express their feelings more.
I mean, they’re fish. They have far less to worry about than we do.
Fish don’t change gender though, they change sex. Fish don’t have the concept of gender.
To be fair, regardless of where you stand on any gender debate, this show is wrong in using the word gender rather than sex.
Fish can’t change gender, they can only change sex.
Ironically this is actually a thing that progressives should complain about.
A gender critical person would say:
Gender = biology.
The show says the fish’s gender changes due to its biology changing.
A progressive would say that gender is separate from biology so the biological change doesn’t determine the gender.
My understanding was gender is “the social construct” around gender roles, social expectations and whatnot, whereas sex is the biological classification. Wouldn’t that mean the fish changed sex, not gender?
What a confused mess of an article, I’m confused.
Are Pinknews linking sex with gender and thereby going against what they’ve been saying for years? Their headline says gender, but it’s the fish’s sex that changes.
Also, we’re not fish so who are the idiots complaining about all this? Numpties.
Omg I watched this with my kids and I bloody knew this was coming.
Didn’t one of the greatest family films ever made (Jurassic Park) use certain animals ability to switch sex as a major plot point 30 years ago?
Don’t remember much outcry then, despite that film being hugely popular with children.
Apropos of nothing, this story has perhaps one of journalism’s greatest ever sentences:
>The backlash coincides with anti-trans campaigners also attacking fish content shared by the British Library
Oh, I do want to see the backlash against “woke creator-God”…
Let’s be honest, He’s been on borrowed time with the Christian right-wing ever since He made the gays gay.
I’m so tired of people with decades old secondary school understandings of things thinking they know everything about everything.
More people in this country need to be firmly told to just shut the fuck up and mind their own business.
I like to assume that they don’t have kids and this is like a dense documentary for them
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Have I got a problem with this, absolutely not. However I’m pretty sure, intentional or not, this will help the next generation realise that the subject of gender is far more nuanced than the birds and bees simplicity of my childhood, whatever species.
Oh dear, are they worried kids won’t grow up as fucking stupid as them.
I caught a bit of an interview with Richard Dawkins on YouTube the other day.
He was asked about the statement made by someone about trans women can’t be biological women.
He did make it clear that if someone wants to call themselves a woman, that’s fine, but then went on to say the following (paraphrasing from memory)
“Biological sex is one of the few binary values in nature, with a very tiny number of exceptions”
Again, from memory, but I couldn’t help but point out the logical fallacy.
If something is binary, it’s either one thing or another, without exceptions.
It’s like me saying I designed a new computer processor that also used binary, but as well as using 1 or 0, it can also occasionally use 2, or 0.5.
People would very rightly point out, that is not binary.
Generally respect the fellow, but think he’s incorrect to describe biological sex as binary if there is even 1 instance of exceptions.
The “facts don’t care about your feelings” are surely in their feelings about some hard facts.
If we’re not careful, we’ll end up like America with parents rioting outside schools because they’ve been triggered by online hate.
It’s absolutely pathetic, people need to get a grip and realise they’re being manipulated to direct their fear and rage against the system that wears them down, towards a minority instead. History just repeats itself.
Wouldn’t this be fish changing sex?
Gender is a social construct and I highly doubt fish can engage with social constructs. It’s not like lady fish can complain about being objectified and the men fish wish they could express their feelings more.
I mean, they’re fish. They have far less to worry about than we do.
Fish don’t change gender though, they change sex. Fish don’t have the concept of gender.
To be fair, regardless of where you stand on any gender debate, this show is wrong in using the word gender rather than sex.
Fish can’t change gender, they can only change sex.
Ironically this is actually a thing that progressives should complain about.
A gender critical person would say:
Gender = biology.
The show says the fish’s gender changes due to its biology changing.
A progressive would say that gender is separate from biology so the biological change doesn’t determine the gender.
Humans aren’t clownfish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV-Exeal17s
My understanding was gender is “the social construct” around gender roles, social expectations and whatnot, whereas sex is the biological classification. Wouldn’t that mean the fish changed sex, not gender?
What a confused mess of an article, I’m confused.
Are Pinknews linking sex with gender and thereby going against what they’ve been saying for years? Their headline says gender, but it’s the fish’s sex that changes.
Also, we’re not fish so who are the idiots complaining about all this? Numpties.
Omg I watched this with my kids and I bloody knew this was coming.
Didn’t one of the greatest family films ever made (Jurassic Park) use certain animals ability to switch sex as a major plot point 30 years ago?
Don’t remember much outcry then, despite that film being hugely popular with children.
Apropos of nothing, this story has perhaps one of journalism’s greatest ever sentences:
>The backlash coincides with anti-trans campaigners also attacking fish content shared by the British Library
Oh, I do want to see the backlash against “woke creator-God”…
Let’s be honest, He’s been on borrowed time with the Christian right-wing ever since He made the gays gay.
I’m so tired of people with decades old secondary school understandings of things thinking they know everything about everything.
More people in this country need to be firmly told to just shut the fuck up and mind their own business.
I like to assume that they don’t have kids and this is like a dense documentary for them