HS has fully accepted the Europen Federation as a nation, since only those from outside the EU are counted as ’Foreigners’
Yep a lot of my friends who just came a year ago to study are stressing about this we are in 2 year now 1 more year and uni for us. kinda feel sad for them
Is it only me or does Finland trying to become less and less attractive to international students/talents each day?
Also I don’t understand how but they are changing the student residence permit policies to make Finland attractive then thinking about changing citizenship requirements to make it less attractive, and now this.
Seems like they are really indecisive about whether to make it attractive or unattractive.
> the aim is to increase student places at higher education institutions by approximately 2,000 students with the help of tuition fee increases.
The irony.
Many people are concerned about losing international talent. How about some tax deductions for couple of months until the tuition fees are compensated for the students who end up working in Finland eventually?
The reason I love Finland and I’m bitter against Sweden is because one didn’t make me feel discriminated against for being unlucky to be born 200km to the east of some border.
I might not have paid tuition fees, but I did bring money to the country at that time by paying rent etc.
I can only speak for myself but the reason I was so highly motivated to stay after graduation is because Finland is much more democratic, and human rights are respected more compared to where I come from. Usually those kinds of countries have worse economies, so raising tuition fees really won’t help with bringing more people motivated to stay.
Oh yeah f*cking with graduating student is not enough but now let’s f*ck with the coming student. The educate one that can contribute to your society. But we totally short on labor and need to import more asylum seekers. Riddle me that.
Couple of friends studied in Finland but they struggled finding jobs. Is tuition very high? Here in Poland it’s €8k per year for CS degree.
I wish those lawmakers understand that Finland is not the first choice for majority non-eu fees paying students. It is always some English speaking countries(US, Canada, Uk, Ireland, Australia, New Zeland) followed Germany **then maybe** Finland -_- This not a good decision at all.
Finns are apparently VERY indecisive about whether they wanna make this place more attractive or not to international students/talents.
Noooooooo :(.
But also you’d probably be able still find the spaces, there should be some kind of dynamic pricing system based on international student interest, probably. My hunch would be you’d be able to find students even if you increased prices.
Though it doesn’t effect me one way or the other I suppose.
Making your own country to be more attractive or easing the policies for the upcoming students.
Pick one Finland, you can’t have both.
This is from the perspective of a graduated student and found a job in Finland: If I had the privilege of freedom of movement, I would have moved to other EU countries or elsewhere long ago, to places where they incentively offer much more to me financially and career wise.
The bitter truth is English degree programmes do not have the same quality as the same programme in Finnish. As someone who has taken courses I see how the teachers struggle with trying to explain things in English. Kuudos for them for trying but if you are paying for it then perhaps you deseve something better.
If the fees are same as in UK , Canada or Australia then student should not bother coming to Finland to study. It’s just not worth it.
After graduation it gets even worse when trying to Find jobs because depending on the job ; you might be required to have some sort of Finnish langauge fluency.
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HS has fully accepted the Europen Federation as a nation, since only those from outside the EU are counted as ’Foreigners’
Yep a lot of my friends who just came a year ago to study are stressing about this we are in 2 year now 1 more year and uni for us. kinda feel sad for them
Is it only me or does Finland trying to become less and less attractive to international students/talents each day?
Also I don’t understand how but they are changing the student residence permit policies to make Finland attractive then thinking about changing citizenship requirements to make it less attractive, and now this.
Seems like they are really indecisive about whether to make it attractive or unattractive.
> the aim is to increase student places at higher education institutions by approximately 2,000 students with the help of tuition fee increases.
The irony.
Many people are concerned about losing international talent. How about some tax deductions for couple of months until the tuition fees are compensated for the students who end up working in Finland eventually?
The reason I love Finland and I’m bitter against Sweden is because one didn’t make me feel discriminated against for being unlucky to be born 200km to the east of some border.
I might not have paid tuition fees, but I did bring money to the country at that time by paying rent etc.
I can only speak for myself but the reason I was so highly motivated to stay after graduation is because Finland is much more democratic, and human rights are respected more compared to where I come from. Usually those kinds of countries have worse economies, so raising tuition fees really won’t help with bringing more people motivated to stay.
Oh yeah f*cking with graduating student is not enough but now let’s f*ck with the coming student. The educate one that can contribute to your society. But we totally short on labor and need to import more asylum seekers. Riddle me that.
Couple of friends studied in Finland but they struggled finding jobs. Is tuition very high? Here in Poland it’s €8k per year for CS degree.
I wish those lawmakers understand that Finland is not the first choice for majority non-eu fees paying students. It is always some English speaking countries(US, Canada, Uk, Ireland, Australia, New Zeland) followed Germany **then maybe** Finland -_- This not a good decision at all.
Finns are apparently VERY indecisive about whether they wanna make this place more attractive or not to international students/talents.
Noooooooo :(.
But also you’d probably be able still find the spaces, there should be some kind of dynamic pricing system based on international student interest, probably. My hunch would be you’d be able to find students even if you increased prices.
Though it doesn’t effect me one way or the other I suppose.
Making your own country to be more attractive or easing the policies for the upcoming students.
Pick one Finland, you can’t have both.
This is from the perspective of a graduated student and found a job in Finland: If I had the privilege of freedom of movement, I would have moved to other EU countries or elsewhere long ago, to places where they incentively offer much more to me financially and career wise.
The bitter truth is English degree programmes do not have the same quality as the same programme in Finnish. As someone who has taken courses I see how the teachers struggle with trying to explain things in English. Kuudos for them for trying but if you are paying for it then perhaps you deseve something better.
If the fees are same as in UK , Canada or Australia then student should not bother coming to Finland to study. It’s just not worth it.
After graduation it gets even worse when trying to Find jobs because depending on the job ; you might be required to have some sort of Finnish langauge fluency.