Johnny Ronan also recommends fleeing to China and setting up a property group to land a 1.2 billion euro “deal” with a prominent “partner” while your main business winds up with €2.7bn euro in debt (But don’t worry, he had a ton of assets conveniently outside of that business.)
I’m not sure this is true.
I think medium density is best – up to 6 or 8 stories.
It’s much cheaper and quicker to build.
I think price per unit increases a lot after that.
How about up high in some place, medium high in lots of places and stay low in special places.
And lots of ways to get between them all.
And support street level small business all over, so life remains in the streets day and night.
And nice things to do all over.
And multiple neighbourhood centres so not everything is pulled into the same zones.
Yazz could have told you that in the late 80s.
Just build houses!!
We have loads of land. Stop faffing and start building
Houses people want houses.
Hahaha. Imagine listening to Johnny Ronan 😂
The fact Johnny Ronan is still a pretty big player in Irish property is all you need to know about the system. Who could have predicted that leaving the guys in power who caused the last housing market crisis would lead to another housing market crisis ?
The construction industry is still like the fucking wildwest. It attracts the worst type of people. The lazy and stupid who want to get rich quick. Developers and land speculators control public policy. Billions in public money is being pumped into the market every year to prop up profits of a select few.
We are not over regulated. If anything we are under regulated. Self regulation does not count as regulation. And almost our entire construction system is based around these cowboys choosing to regulate themselves. Planning is one of the few area where regulation is enforced consistently by the government. Despite what many people want you to think the basic planning system works well.
Building (control) regulations are almost completely self regulated. I guarantee right now we are building more priory hall / mica homes or similar. And when they are discovered developers like Johnny Ronan will not be held accountable.
“Cowboys Ted, They are a Bunch of Cowboys”
Well, if you want a functioning city beyond a certain size you have to go up. It’s just not feasible any other ways.
Dublin is completely failing to see itself as a mid-sized city, and is stuck in town mode tbh.
The lack of ambition around building a metro and the inability to comprehend that you have to increase the height of buildings is completely hobbling it.
I honestly think one of the key problem is that our cities have very little autonomy compared to anywhere else in Europe or North America that you might compare them with. They need to be able to drive things like public transport and major projects much more locally, rather than endlessly relying on three letter agencies like TFI, CIE, OPW, and central government for absolutely everything of any significance.
We are grossly over centralised and the fact that the Dail is in Dublin is not relevant to that. It’s the fact that Dublin City Council or Cork City Council etc have no real power and only a relatively limited role in running their own cities.
“Sustainable Development Goals” shite.
This has been known for 10-15 years at this stage.
Said developer is probably a landlord too..
Cloud cities?
In other news water wet
People have been saying this forever. Parents moan about lack of housing for their children. But don’t want housing to be build near them. Idgaf
Or you know build up other cities and towns.
>Some businesses have even called for Dublin Port to be relocated away from the shores of the city, freeing up some 260 hectares of land as Ireland battles with a crippling housing crisis.
No, Johnny Ronan has. Because he not only wants the right to develop the whole port area, he also wants to develop a port in Drogheda, win win for Johnny as usual, prick. Moving the port to Drogheda will result in more journeys being made by road to collect freight. In my case instead of being able to transport 4 containers a day to kildare, I’ll only be able to do 3 because of the extra 2.5 hrs required to get up to Drogheda. No business owner in dublin is asking for less access to raw materials & inventory.
That’s only part of it TBH
We also need to stop with the idea of using property as a “legacy” to hand on to family either from a practical level OR financial
My parents live in a 1980’s semi in Cork that we grew up in. Nothing special. Neither myself or my brother need it or want it (we both have our own places – him in Cork, me in the states). They’re getting up there and maintenance is starting to get to them. But they are pig headed that they want to keep it to pass on something to us. We don’t need anything passed on to us. They need to get out of that house to make things easier on themselves in an apartment or single level house – and open up the property for another family. Their entire street in the estate still has all the same people living on it that it did 40 years ago – with all the kids long gone and bunch of pensioners sitting in houses too big for what they need
I’ve watched the movie and I can’t see how removing homes with helium balloons is going to be any help at all.
Or down
Is he getting his excuses in again before looking for another bailout ?
Wasn’t this like obvious for ages now?
I like apartments and tall buildings and all that jazz but … doesn’t this make more leasehold properties that come with major issues? Not sure if the same situation in Ireland but in England we have so much more property available but so many are leasehold
I’d have more respect for Johnny Ronan if he paid his fucking taxes.
Makes a fortune out of Ireland but is tax resident in Malta. Seriously?
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Did we not know this 20 years ago?
No shit
Johnny Ronan also recommends fleeing to China and setting up a property group to land a 1.2 billion euro “deal” with a prominent “partner” while your main business winds up with €2.7bn euro in debt (But don’t worry, he had a ton of assets conveniently outside of that business.)
I’m not sure this is true.
I think medium density is best – up to 6 or 8 stories.
It’s much cheaper and quicker to build.
I think price per unit increases a lot after that.
How about up high in some place, medium high in lots of places and stay low in special places.
And lots of ways to get between them all.
And support street level small business all over, so life remains in the streets day and night.
And nice things to do all over.
And multiple neighbourhood centres so not everything is pulled into the same zones.
Yazz could have told you that in the late 80s.
Just build houses!!
We have loads of land. Stop faffing and start building
Houses people want houses.
Hahaha. Imagine listening to Johnny Ronan 😂
The fact Johnny Ronan is still a pretty big player in Irish property is all you need to know about the system. Who could have predicted that leaving the guys in power who caused the last housing market crisis would lead to another housing market crisis ?
The construction industry is still like the fucking wildwest. It attracts the worst type of people. The lazy and stupid who want to get rich quick. Developers and land speculators control public policy. Billions in public money is being pumped into the market every year to prop up profits of a select few.
We are not over regulated. If anything we are under regulated. Self regulation does not count as regulation. And almost our entire construction system is based around these cowboys choosing to regulate themselves. Planning is one of the few area where regulation is enforced consistently by the government. Despite what many people want you to think the basic planning system works well.
Building (control) regulations are almost completely self regulated. I guarantee right now we are building more priory hall / mica homes or similar. And when they are discovered developers like Johnny Ronan will not be held accountable.
“Cowboys Ted, They are a Bunch of Cowboys”
Well, if you want a functioning city beyond a certain size you have to go up. It’s just not feasible any other ways.
Dublin is completely failing to see itself as a mid-sized city, and is stuck in town mode tbh.
The lack of ambition around building a metro and the inability to comprehend that you have to increase the height of buildings is completely hobbling it.
I honestly think one of the key problem is that our cities have very little autonomy compared to anywhere else in Europe or North America that you might compare them with. They need to be able to drive things like public transport and major projects much more locally, rather than endlessly relying on three letter agencies like TFI, CIE, OPW, and central government for absolutely everything of any significance.
We are grossly over centralised and the fact that the Dail is in Dublin is not relevant to that. It’s the fact that Dublin City Council or Cork City Council etc have no real power and only a relatively limited role in running their own cities.
“Sustainable Development Goals” shite.
This has been known for 10-15 years at this stage.
Said developer is probably a landlord too..
Cloud cities?
In other news water wet
People have been saying this forever. Parents moan about lack of housing for their children. But don’t want housing to be build near them. Idgaf
Or you know build up other cities and towns.
>Some businesses have even called for Dublin Port to be relocated away from the shores of the city, freeing up some 260 hectares of land as Ireland battles with a crippling housing crisis.
No, Johnny Ronan has. Because he not only wants the right to develop the whole port area, he also wants to develop a port in Drogheda, win win for Johnny as usual, prick. Moving the port to Drogheda will result in more journeys being made by road to collect freight. In my case instead of being able to transport 4 containers a day to kildare, I’ll only be able to do 3 because of the extra 2.5 hrs required to get up to Drogheda. No business owner in dublin is asking for less access to raw materials & inventory.
That’s only part of it TBH
We also need to stop with the idea of using property as a “legacy” to hand on to family either from a practical level OR financial
My parents live in a 1980’s semi in Cork that we grew up in. Nothing special. Neither myself or my brother need it or want it (we both have our own places – him in Cork, me in the states). They’re getting up there and maintenance is starting to get to them. But they are pig headed that they want to keep it to pass on something to us. We don’t need anything passed on to us. They need to get out of that house to make things easier on themselves in an apartment or single level house – and open up the property for another family. Their entire street in the estate still has all the same people living on it that it did 40 years ago – with all the kids long gone and bunch of pensioners sitting in houses too big for what they need
I’ve watched the movie and I can’t see how removing homes with helium balloons is going to be any help at all.
Or down
Is he getting his excuses in again before looking for another bailout ?
Wasn’t this like obvious for ages now?
I like apartments and tall buildings and all that jazz but … doesn’t this make more leasehold properties that come with major issues? Not sure if the same situation in Ireland but in England we have so much more property available but so many are leasehold
I’d have more respect for Johnny Ronan if he paid his fucking taxes.
Makes a fortune out of Ireland but is tax resident in Malta. Seriously?
But…up is where the skyline is?