I personally know of an entire stroke department that’s shut because 80% of the doctors there just moved to Ireland for the pay rise from £89,000 to £250,000.
Blame the Tories but Wes Streeting’s pretty clear he’s not fixing this either.
Overworked poorly paid. And thats frontline and admin
I work in admin. The NHS as a whole is obsessed with targets and is used to beat us over the head when not met. The NHS is dealing with peoples lives and high sums of money, its not about an arbitrary number.
My last job and this current one had targets for staff. What would you prefer i hit targets or do my job right? I know for a fact it lead to mistakes as staff were pressured into hitting targets
“That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital.” — Noam Chomsky.
Do they know that during the Pandemics hospitals were more or less closed?
Well, yeah.
Probably a good time to break out the “Five Whys” technique to get to the root cause of that.
In one region of the U.K., refuse collectors have reached a deal that has increased their pay so much that they will be earning more than junior doctors.
Brexit meant nursing referrals from outside the U.K. dropped by 97% on average for a while.
Be angry at a system that refuses to keep up with inflation. Do not be angry at staff.
We’ve just had a job freeze but need to up our activity
NHS staff strike for better pay
Some asshole: “if you don’t like your job just quit”
NHS staff quit
Same asshole: “Wait, no!! I’m on a waiting list for ages now!! Just goes to show the NHS has failed, bring on privatisation”
All the NHS staff move to private practice
Future asshole: “I have to pay HOW MUCH for healthcare?!?!?”
Staff shortages is a symptom
NHS chiefs should be able to identity a symptom
The comments from Government Departments like those at the bottom of this article really anger me. For the love of god, sometimes it is OK to call a spoon a spoon. It is currently falling apart, you only have to have used the NHS at any point in the last few years to know, who do they think they are kidding? They just pluck literally any statistics that are positive that they can find across the entire system and then vomit it out in a quote which is typically always utterly irrelevant to the actual point being made.
Even the irrelevance they do come out with… they are putting a load of effort and focus on those waiting over 18 months (arguably justifiability) but there is a huge bubble forming underneath and they fucking know it.
No shit Sherlock, add in shocking working conditions and Staff treated as ‘scapegoat scum’.
That’s from ex clinical with a partner still in it.
Sigh. The Tories and Labour are trying to destroy our NHS.
Step 1 – underfund the NHS over a prolonged period so it stops working effectively
Step 2 – send in private enterprise to “rescue” it bit by bit
Step 3 – ker-ching
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Keeping staff is becoming harder and harder, let alone recruiting more. Outside of management, I am the second longest serving member of my department with five years service. We turn over staff almost every two years and are never stable for long, so once one person leaves several more do all at once. This means new staff have to recruited and trained to our way of working, while the experienced staff have to work all the out of hours shifts until the new staff can be signed off to work independently. All for a measly pittance too. That’s why staff quit.
Too many people. Bad pay and terrible education system
Terrible work condition ✅
Long hours ✅
Low Salary ✅
I wonder why there is a shortage of staff?!
Well maybe making staff work ridiculous long days in the hardest job for the shittest wage was not the best idea.
Maybe a triple shift pattern funded by TAXING RICH PEOPLE of 9/10hour days might tempt people into such a hard profession and keeping the 3 day week as ITS THE HARDEST JOB.
Just saying here is 3 x 12.5 hour shifts with an unpaid break in the middle, oh and you have to do over time otherwise everyone on the ward will think your weak is a shit way to manage a health service.
Could the staff shortage be due to the fact they have not hired enough staff, due to underfunding or mismanagement of funds?
r/LeopardsAteMyFace Totally self inflicted. Dare I say deliberately?
In other news, water is wet.
I get it, the chiefs are pointing out that they need more people, makes sense.
You can’t do an operation if you don’t have a doctor, or scrub nurses, or ward staff to treat the patient after surgery, or home care teams to look after patients when they head back home and need the extra help.
I wonder who is responsible for all of this?
I think I’m still on a waiting list or two but it’s been over a year so I paid private
I’m shocked anyone even still works for the NHS. There’s having passion for your work and then there’s actually having money to save, provide for your family, etc.
No such thing as a staff shortage just a pay shortage.
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35% pay cut for doctors since 2008.
Not exactly shocking this is happening is it?
I personally know of an entire stroke department that’s shut because 80% of the doctors there just moved to Ireland for the pay rise from £89,000 to £250,000.
Blame the Tories but Wes Streeting’s pretty clear he’s not fixing this either.
Overworked poorly paid. And thats frontline and admin
I work in admin. The NHS as a whole is obsessed with targets and is used to beat us over the head when not met. The NHS is dealing with peoples lives and high sums of money, its not about an arbitrary number.
My last job and this current one had targets for staff. What would you prefer i hit targets or do my job right? I know for a fact it lead to mistakes as staff were pressured into hitting targets
“That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital.” — Noam Chomsky.
Do they know that during the Pandemics hospitals were more or less closed?
Well, yeah.
Probably a good time to break out the “Five Whys” technique to get to the root cause of that.
In one region of the U.K., refuse collectors have reached a deal that has increased their pay so much that they will be earning more than junior doctors.
Brexit meant nursing referrals from outside the U.K. dropped by 97% on average for a while.
Be angry at a system that refuses to keep up with inflation. Do not be angry at staff.
We’ve just had a job freeze but need to up our activity
NHS staff strike for better pay
Some asshole: “if you don’t like your job just quit”
NHS staff quit
Same asshole: “Wait, no!! I’m on a waiting list for ages now!! Just goes to show the NHS has failed, bring on privatisation”
All the NHS staff move to private practice
Future asshole: “I have to pay HOW MUCH for healthcare?!?!?”
Staff shortages is a symptom
NHS chiefs should be able to identity a symptom
The comments from Government Departments like those at the bottom of this article really anger me. For the love of god, sometimes it is OK to call a spoon a spoon. It is currently falling apart, you only have to have used the NHS at any point in the last few years to know, who do they think they are kidding? They just pluck literally any statistics that are positive that they can find across the entire system and then vomit it out in a quote which is typically always utterly irrelevant to the actual point being made.
Even the irrelevance they do come out with… they are putting a load of effort and focus on those waiting over 18 months (arguably justifiability) but there is a huge bubble forming underneath and they fucking know it.
No shit Sherlock, add in shocking working conditions and Staff treated as ‘scapegoat scum’.
That’s from ex clinical with a partner still in it.
Sigh. The Tories and Labour are trying to destroy our NHS.
Step 1 – underfund the NHS over a prolonged period so it stops working effectively
Step 2 – send in private enterprise to “rescue” it bit by bit
Step 3 – ker-ching
[deleted]
Keeping staff is becoming harder and harder, let alone recruiting more. Outside of management, I am the second longest serving member of my department with five years service. We turn over staff almost every two years and are never stable for long, so once one person leaves several more do all at once. This means new staff have to recruited and trained to our way of working, while the experienced staff have to work all the out of hours shifts until the new staff can be signed off to work independently. All for a measly pittance too. That’s why staff quit.
Too many people. Bad pay and terrible education system
Terrible work condition ✅
Long hours ✅
Low Salary ✅
I wonder why there is a shortage of staff?!
Well maybe making staff work ridiculous long days in the hardest job for the shittest wage was not the best idea.
Maybe a triple shift pattern funded by TAXING RICH PEOPLE of 9/10hour days might tempt people into such a hard profession and keeping the 3 day week as ITS THE HARDEST JOB.
Just saying here is 3 x 12.5 hour shifts with an unpaid break in the middle, oh and you have to do over time otherwise everyone on the ward will think your weak is a shit way to manage a health service.
Could the staff shortage be due to the fact they have not hired enough staff, due to underfunding or mismanagement of funds?
r/LeopardsAteMyFace Totally self inflicted. Dare I say deliberately?
In other news, water is wet.
I get it, the chiefs are pointing out that they need more people, makes sense.
You can’t do an operation if you don’t have a doctor, or scrub nurses, or ward staff to treat the patient after surgery, or home care teams to look after patients when they head back home and need the extra help.
I wonder who is responsible for all of this?
I think I’m still on a waiting list or two but it’s been over a year so I paid private
I’m shocked anyone even still works for the NHS. There’s having passion for your work and then there’s actually having money to save, provide for your family, etc.
No such thing as a staff shortage just a pay shortage.