Here’s a mother relating to RTÉ’s Liveline whose head must roll: “The minister (for Education) packed a bus with sixth-year students, she got out of the bus and pushed it off a cliff.”
Hahaha
It’s an absolute disgrace Joe
Safe spaces, trigger warnings, cancelling and all this stuff has infantilised a generation. Meanwhile media is no longer happy to cover a “crisis” they want drama and more the better, clearly the public are fully signed up to this so Liveline exists while people who should know better either say nothing or are actively stoking the flames of outrage for clicks, hits and ratings.
Throw in the increased partisan nature of society and it’s just all monkeys throwing shit.
Must be a slow day for Mick Clifford, needs to fill space and the wheel landed on “generational conflict culture war”, wish my job was as handy.
Kids today didn’t just make up all the new ideas and awareness around mental health and self-care, they were taught it from somewhere, usually parents. In some instances it can be taken to an extreme and all the rags will be happy to report on it like it’s the downfall of society when in actuality it just reflects a greater awareness and understanding of compassion and mental health.
I think the real issue is a lack of accountability and responsibility, and most of that stems from the parents; “no way, my child couldn’t have done any better on that exam, it’s the exam commission’s fault”, etc. It was the same thing when I did the LC, you would have a group screaming about how unfair an exam was while the rest of us who actually studied just said nothing and moved onto the next one.
What a tired, lazy piece from a grumpy old man. Fuck all else to write about, Mick.
The son of a judge. Must have had it so hard.
Is he making this up or did this really happen?
Gobshite
Planet dying. Oceans boiling. Owning a home an impossible dream. People in their late 20s/30s are still living in houseshares and unable to start families. 50% of wages going towards rent. Cost of living crippling people and adding stress/depression. Fulltime jobs unable to provide a good qualify of life.
All the while a bunch of old cunts tell us how great we have it, and how we’re “spoiled” and “snowflakes”.
Well let’s not pretend as if the average mental stamina of a teen has got lower over time
Trauma is the new racist,
Bandied about so much it’s lost all meaning
This is infuriating. Mick has no clue of the pressures on LC students these days. I’m of a similar age as him and 580+ points equivalents were very rare. Kids these days have insane pressure on them to succeed from a very early age. It’s absolutely bananas what they go through.
If they’ve been conditioned to inflate disappointment to trauma then it is our generation’s fault for letting it happen. It’s not like there weren’t warning signs 20 years ago.
Some of these kids need their A or B in maths to get the course they want and it is traumatic to face not only the pressure of a difficult exam but the grim realisation that they are in the process of blowing their chances to get into college.
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Mick Clifford has enjoyed benefits his generation is actively dismantling for those sitting their LC. He’s a well paid contrarian.
he isn’t wrong lol
This is what happens when everyone gets a medal.
The outrage tennis is flying it I see
fair play to him.
I don’t understand whining over a hard exam paper. Surely it’s as difficult for everyone else so in the end you will all be the same.
Why do people get so offended by articles like this. Read it, agree or disagree and move on. It’s literally just an opinion piece in a newspaper.
In the late 80s, I had a pretty horrific LC Maths exam, but that’s just because I was sh1t at Maths. 🤷🏻♂️
Well there’s 2 things. Firstly, this group of 6th years have never sat a state examination before. They never did their junior cert due to covid. So, their first experience of a state examination happens to be the most stress inducing exam we’ve all had to deal with. The main difference is we had the junior cert so we knew what conditions to expect, the frantic panic of thinking you’ve spent too long on a question etc.
Secondly, it’s the frustration a lot of people have with the fact that in 2020, within the space of 3 months, the government managed to bin the leaving cert and replace it with predictive grades and continuous assessment, something which hwas vehemently opposed for donkeys years, with one of the main reasons being it would be too hard to introduce or change over to it or whatever. But it worked. And many students were spared the inhuman stress that is put on them due to this ridiculous system. And parents are fuming because instead of keeping this new, stress reduced assessment, the government decided to go back to the old “your life is over if you don’t do well” state exam.
I’m 28 and I only recently stopped having nightmares about doing my LC. I studied hard and did really well. Still the stress of the whole experience undoubtedly had a long term negative impact on my mental health
Looking at the paper, I’m shocked there was anything close to the furore about it, I didn’t do my LC that long ago and I definitely had a harder paper without the bonus of 25 extra points.
The financial maths question was absurdly straightforward for higher level maths.
Higher level maths should be hard, it’s important that only those with a strong aptitude for maths do well in it to avoid people going onto maths based degrees with a false sense of security about their maths aptitude and dropping out potentially derailing their lives.
At the end of the day, the bell curve will ensure those who coped best get the best marks as it should be and it won’t be a bloodbath come results day.
With a “tricky” paper, it usually benefits the bright kids rather than those who have benefitted from great teacher in private schools who can usually predict the papers.
He’s describing himself. Whine whine whine.
Older person thinks younger generation is soft and weak unlike the good old days.
*yawn*
Totally novel and not cliched take whatsoever…
This will upset some of the young uns on here lol
Or people in older generations denies their trauma and ignored it to disastrous effect
BREAKING: First ever out of touch aulfella thinks younger generation are “soft, lazy snowflakes”. More at nine.
I used to dread waking up and going to work. It haunted me. I’d stay in bed until the last minute; and my shifts sometimes started at 4pm. All day in bed.
I didn’t know why, I just hated going to work and dreaded it. The bus into work was horrendous. The coffee before it started was horrendous, but I tried to buy every minute so I could not face the job.
I’m glad today’s youth recognise this for what it is. I said nothing to no one and got on with it. Now I have dreams of that dread. It haunts me. I didn’t look after myself properly then, because I didn’t want to face the day.
I wasted some of my early 20s hiding from life because I dreaded the day.
If today’s youth can spot that fucking shit, call it out and recognise it. Good on them. They’re better for it.
And fuck anyone who says they’re weak or too sensitive.
I hope I don’t need to tell them that, I hope they know it and laugh at this horse shit.
Good on them
I mean he’s not wrong. But the people who made them like that are Mick’s contemporaries and they did it to protect their kids.
Always particularly annoying when people who shit out opinion columns every week talk about working hard or having a stiff upper lip
I dunno, I feel like anyone who’s worked in customer service will attest to the extreme fragility and entitlement of the older generation.
I don’t think I ever had a millennial/gen z go off on me, but it was an almost weekly basis with the older crowd.
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Here’s a mother relating to RTÉ’s Liveline whose head must roll: “The minister (for Education) packed a bus with sixth-year students, she got out of the bus and pushed it off a cliff.”
Hahaha
It’s an absolute disgrace Joe
Safe spaces, trigger warnings, cancelling and all this stuff has infantilised a generation. Meanwhile media is no longer happy to cover a “crisis” they want drama and more the better, clearly the public are fully signed up to this so Liveline exists while people who should know better either say nothing or are actively stoking the flames of outrage for clicks, hits and ratings.
Throw in the increased partisan nature of society and it’s just all monkeys throwing shit.
Must be a slow day for Mick Clifford, needs to fill space and the wheel landed on “generational conflict culture war”, wish my job was as handy.
Kids today didn’t just make up all the new ideas and awareness around mental health and self-care, they were taught it from somewhere, usually parents. In some instances it can be taken to an extreme and all the rags will be happy to report on it like it’s the downfall of society when in actuality it just reflects a greater awareness and understanding of compassion and mental health.
I think the real issue is a lack of accountability and responsibility, and most of that stems from the parents; “no way, my child couldn’t have done any better on that exam, it’s the exam commission’s fault”, etc. It was the same thing when I did the LC, you would have a group screaming about how unfair an exam was while the rest of us who actually studied just said nothing and moved onto the next one.
What a tired, lazy piece from a grumpy old man. Fuck all else to write about, Mick.
The son of a judge. Must have had it so hard.
Is he making this up or did this really happen?
Gobshite
Planet dying. Oceans boiling. Owning a home an impossible dream. People in their late 20s/30s are still living in houseshares and unable to start families. 50% of wages going towards rent. Cost of living crippling people and adding stress/depression. Fulltime jobs unable to provide a good qualify of life.
All the while a bunch of old cunts tell us how great we have it, and how we’re “spoiled” and “snowflakes”.
Well let’s not pretend as if the average mental stamina of a teen has got lower over time
Trauma is the new racist,
Bandied about so much it’s lost all meaning
This is infuriating. Mick has no clue of the pressures on LC students these days. I’m of a similar age as him and 580+ points equivalents were very rare. Kids these days have insane pressure on them to succeed from a very early age. It’s absolutely bananas what they go through.
If they’ve been conditioned to inflate disappointment to trauma then it is our generation’s fault for letting it happen. It’s not like there weren’t warning signs 20 years ago.
Some of these kids need their A or B in maths to get the course they want and it is traumatic to face not only the pressure of a difficult exam but the grim realisation that they are in the process of blowing their chances to get into college.
[removed]
Mick Clifford has enjoyed benefits his generation is actively dismantling for those sitting their LC. He’s a well paid contrarian.
he isn’t wrong lol
This is what happens when everyone gets a medal.
The outrage tennis is flying it I see
fair play to him.
I don’t understand whining over a hard exam paper. Surely it’s as difficult for everyone else so in the end you will all be the same.
Why do people get so offended by articles like this. Read it, agree or disagree and move on. It’s literally just an opinion piece in a newspaper.
In the late 80s, I had a pretty horrific LC Maths exam, but that’s just because I was sh1t at Maths. 🤷🏻♂️
Well there’s 2 things. Firstly, this group of 6th years have never sat a state examination before. They never did their junior cert due to covid. So, their first experience of a state examination happens to be the most stress inducing exam we’ve all had to deal with. The main difference is we had the junior cert so we knew what conditions to expect, the frantic panic of thinking you’ve spent too long on a question etc.
Secondly, it’s the frustration a lot of people have with the fact that in 2020, within the space of 3 months, the government managed to bin the leaving cert and replace it with predictive grades and continuous assessment, something which hwas vehemently opposed for donkeys years, with one of the main reasons being it would be too hard to introduce or change over to it or whatever. But it worked. And many students were spared the inhuman stress that is put on them due to this ridiculous system. And parents are fuming because instead of keeping this new, stress reduced assessment, the government decided to go back to the old “your life is over if you don’t do well” state exam.
I’m 28 and I only recently stopped having nightmares about doing my LC. I studied hard and did really well. Still the stress of the whole experience undoubtedly had a long term negative impact on my mental health
Looking at the paper, I’m shocked there was anything close to the furore about it, I didn’t do my LC that long ago and I definitely had a harder paper without the bonus of 25 extra points.
The financial maths question was absurdly straightforward for higher level maths.
Higher level maths should be hard, it’s important that only those with a strong aptitude for maths do well in it to avoid people going onto maths based degrees with a false sense of security about their maths aptitude and dropping out potentially derailing their lives.
At the end of the day, the bell curve will ensure those who coped best get the best marks as it should be and it won’t be a bloodbath come results day.
With a “tricky” paper, it usually benefits the bright kids rather than those who have benefitted from great teacher in private schools who can usually predict the papers.
He’s describing himself. Whine whine whine.
Older person thinks younger generation is soft and weak unlike the good old days.
*yawn*
Totally novel and not cliched take whatsoever…
This will upset some of the young uns on here lol
Or people in older generations denies their trauma and ignored it to disastrous effect
BREAKING: First ever out of touch aulfella thinks younger generation are “soft, lazy snowflakes”. More at nine.
I used to dread waking up and going to work. It haunted me. I’d stay in bed until the last minute; and my shifts sometimes started at 4pm. All day in bed.
I didn’t know why, I just hated going to work and dreaded it. The bus into work was horrendous. The coffee before it started was horrendous, but I tried to buy every minute so I could not face the job.
I’m glad today’s youth recognise this for what it is. I said nothing to no one and got on with it. Now I have dreams of that dread. It haunts me. I didn’t look after myself properly then, because I didn’t want to face the day.
I wasted some of my early 20s hiding from life because I dreaded the day.
If today’s youth can spot that fucking shit, call it out and recognise it. Good on them. They’re better for it.
And fuck anyone who says they’re weak or too sensitive.
I hope I don’t need to tell them that, I hope they know it and laugh at this horse shit.
Good on them
I mean he’s not wrong. But the people who made them like that are Mick’s contemporaries and they did it to protect their kids.
Always particularly annoying when people who shit out opinion columns every week talk about working hard or having a stiff upper lip
I dunno, I feel like anyone who’s worked in customer service will attest to the extreme fragility and entitlement of the older generation.
I don’t think I ever had a millennial/gen z go off on me, but it was an almost weekly basis with the older crowd.