Ulez is a tax. Nothing more, nothing less. Politicians don’t give a shiny shite about your health.
I’ve only been to London a handful of times, but each time the air quality was shocking. I feel sorry for those who live there.
Asking the general public about science, a losing proposition every time. Especially if acknowledging reality will cost them even a small amount of money.
Who believes this? I could imagine someone not really caring, as in: “I don’t think it’s too bad.” or not caring enough to stop driving. But actually saying it doesn’t harm health?
Clearly, air pollution does harm health if people believe this.
That is an VERY badly constructed headline.
“Many people incorrectly think that toxic air does not cause harm”
Just imagine if some new party drug came along that killed 30,000 people in one year. NOx was made illegal with no known deaths.
I’ve literally just moved out of South London to rural Kent. I’ve been here less than 48 hours and already my persistent cough has started to clear up.
I’ve known for a while that the air in London was behind my cough as anytime I left london for the countryside for a few days, my cough always cleared up.
It’s absolutely mental that so many people in London are opposed to clean air.
>Asked on a scale of one to 10 how much of a negative impact air pollution has on the health of local residents, 47 per cent gave a score of zero to four – and only 34 per cent said six to 10.
I think the issue here is that people could be interpreting this as asking whether current air pollution levels have an impact on health. What could have happened is many people who answered zero to four think that current levels are not significant enough to harm health, rather than believing that toxic air does not damage health. So this could just indicate ignorance about local air quality.
That would be the effects of pollution then. I believe it’s not so great on the brain.
London is quite consistently in the green for air pollution these days which is thanks to the reduction of car emissions and with such extensive public transport, we can afford to expand it more.
To paraphrase the great Isaac Aismov, democracy becomes useless when it is taken to mean ‘My ignorance is just as good as your expertise’.
They don’t really believe that. They just want to keep the range rover and ignore the health of city dwellers.
Hmmn, after years of exposure to emissions, locals believe emissions are fine… 🤔
It’s fucking annoying. The number of people who DON’T have cars that are affected by still at anti ulez. Thing is they won’t change their minds until it affects THEM!
Then they’ll be crying like little babies. Oh my child died because of pollution. My dad died because of pollution…why didn’t the government do during about it.
Tufton street cunts have been pushing this bollocks for decades.
Anti smoking ban.
Anti workers rights
Anti climates change action
Anti stopping lead petrol
Wrong every time
Yet the British fall for it EVERY time
I have ZERO sympathy for anyone going on about how they don’t like ulez and someone they care about ends up with life threatening asthma
Just like to plug Agnes who is quoted in this. Very impressive young lady.
It’s not about air pollution! It’s about taxing motorists as much as possible??? The underground has way worse air quality than the streets above but you don’t hear about applying Ulez to it now do you!
“Asked on a scale of one to 10 how much of a negative impact air pollution has on the health of local residents, 47 per cent gave a score of zero to four – and only 34 per cent said six to 10.”
If this was genuinely the question asked I’m not at all surprised by the results. It’s very easy to interpret as “by how much are local residents being impacted by air pollution”
It’s remarkable how busy the road past the end of my street gets at school run time when there is the slightest bit of rain, and you can then taste the air.
I make my two walk to school in all weathers, its only a ten minute walk for most.
The issue with the extension of the London ULEZ from what I gathered from the councils impacted, is that there is no option for vehicle scrappage as was offered to London city residents. It will happen, and the residents will get their scrappage eventually.
The effects of coal smoke used to be well known. The effects of diesel engine particulates are even worse. If they banned diesel it would help, clearer thinking, less asthmatic children, fewer cases of flu like symptoms to name a few. Even allergies people claim is from plants is likely to be caused by oil based causes. The cost to the NHS is in hundreds of millions of £’s annually. This hasn’t been made clear.
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Ulez is a tax. Nothing more, nothing less. Politicians don’t give a shiny shite about your health.
I’ve only been to London a handful of times, but each time the air quality was shocking. I feel sorry for those who live there.
Asking the general public about science, a losing proposition every time. Especially if acknowledging reality will cost them even a small amount of money.
Who believes this? I could imagine someone not really caring, as in: “I don’t think it’s too bad.” or not caring enough to stop driving. But actually saying it doesn’t harm health?
Clearly, air pollution does harm health if people believe this.
That is an VERY badly constructed headline.
“Many people incorrectly think that toxic air does not cause harm”
The [UK govt](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/air-pollution-applying-all-our-health/air-pollution-applying-all-our-health) estimates that pollution, mainly from fossil fuel burning vehicles, is responsible for about 30,000 deaths per annum.
Just imagine if some new party drug came along that killed 30,000 people in one year. NOx was made illegal with no known deaths.
I’ve literally just moved out of South London to rural Kent. I’ve been here less than 48 hours and already my persistent cough has started to clear up.
I’ve known for a while that the air in London was behind my cough as anytime I left london for the countryside for a few days, my cough always cleared up.
It’s absolutely mental that so many people in London are opposed to clean air.
>Asked on a scale of one to 10 how much of a negative impact air pollution has on the health of local residents, 47 per cent gave a score of zero to four – and only 34 per cent said six to 10.
I think the issue here is that people could be interpreting this as asking whether current air pollution levels have an impact on health. What could have happened is many people who answered zero to four think that current levels are not significant enough to harm health, rather than believing that toxic air does not damage health. So this could just indicate ignorance about local air quality.
That would be the effects of pollution then. I believe it’s not so great on the brain.
London is quite consistently in the green for air pollution these days which is thanks to the reduction of car emissions and with such extensive public transport, we can afford to expand it more.
To paraphrase the great Isaac Aismov, democracy becomes useless when it is taken to mean ‘My ignorance is just as good as your expertise’.
They don’t really believe that. They just want to keep the range rover and ignore the health of city dwellers.
Hmmn, after years of exposure to emissions, locals believe emissions are fine… 🤔
It’s fucking annoying. The number of people who DON’T have cars that are affected by still at anti ulez. Thing is they won’t change their minds until it affects THEM!
Then they’ll be crying like little babies. Oh my child died because of pollution. My dad died because of pollution…why didn’t the government do during about it.
Tufton street cunts have been pushing this bollocks for decades.
Anti smoking ban.
Anti workers rights
Anti climates change action
Anti stopping lead petrol
Wrong every time
Yet the British fall for it EVERY time
I have ZERO sympathy for anyone going on about how they don’t like ulez and someone they care about ends up with life threatening asthma
Just like to plug Agnes who is quoted in this. Very impressive young lady.
It’s not about air pollution! It’s about taxing motorists as much as possible??? The underground has way worse air quality than the streets above but you don’t hear about applying Ulez to it now do you!
“Asked on a scale of one to 10 how much of a negative impact air pollution has on the health of local residents, 47 per cent gave a score of zero to four – and only 34 per cent said six to 10.”
If this was genuinely the question asked I’m not at all surprised by the results. It’s very easy to interpret as “by how much are local residents being impacted by air pollution”
Stupid survey, stupid answers, stupid conclusions.
It’s remarkable how busy the road past the end of my street gets at school run time when there is the slightest bit of rain, and you can then taste the air.
I make my two walk to school in all weathers, its only a ten minute walk for most.
The issue with the extension of the London ULEZ from what I gathered from the councils impacted, is that there is no option for vehicle scrappage as was offered to London city residents. It will happen, and the residents will get their scrappage eventually.
The effects of coal smoke used to be well known. The effects of diesel engine particulates are even worse. If they banned diesel it would help, clearer thinking, less asthmatic children, fewer cases of flu like symptoms to name a few. Even allergies people claim is from plants is likely to be caused by oil based causes. The cost to the NHS is in hundreds of millions of £’s annually. This hasn’t been made clear.