Hi everyone,
I’m currently in the process of disputing a parking ticket issued by ParkkiPate and could really use some advice. Let me give you some background: I’ve received parking tickets in the past, and I’ve always paid them when I felt they were justified. However, I only dispute the ones I believe are unfair, and this particular ticket falls into that category.
Here’s what happened: I was in the midst of moving into my new apartment, making several trips to transfer my belongings from my old place to the new one, sometimes alone and sometimes with the help of others. On this occasion, when I was moving alone, I temporarily parked my car near the entrance, as I had done before. I was just unloading the last few items, and the car was empty. I locked the car and turned on the emergency lights. When I came back down at 21:35, I saw two girls writing me a ticket. I explained that I was in the process of moving, but they insisted they had been waiting for 5 minutes. They advised me to appeal the ticket on the website, which I did. In my dispute, I explained the following points:
* I was actively moving my belongings into my new apartment, sometimes alone and sometimes with others.
* I didn’t park, but rather stopped momentarily, taking only the time necessary.
* There were no loading and unloading signs because I was on the final leg of my move.
I asked that they cancel the ticket, as I believed the reason for issuing it was unjustified. I provided pictures and videos of me moving my items as evidence, and I emphasized that I had a designated parking spot in the parking area, so there was no need for me to park near the entrance. It was simply a momentary stop.
In their website [https://www.parkkipate.fi/usein-kysyttya](https://www.parkkipate.fi/usein-kysyttya), there’s this section:
Miten voin suorittaa muuton rauhassa saamatta valvontamaksua?
Valvojamme odottavat aina ajoneuvon läheisyydessä ennen valvontamaksun kirjoittamista. Piha-alueelle ja pelastustielle hetkellinen pysäyttäminen on sallittu, mutta pysäköinti on kielletty. Eli ainoastaan kuorman purun ja lastauksen ajan on ajoneuvon sallittu olla pysähtyneenä hetkellisesti pelastustiellä ja tällöinkin kuljettajan on oltava ajoneuvon välittömässä läheisyydessä. Asukkaan ei kuitenkaan tarvitse seisoa vahtimassa autoa, riittää että odotusaikana näkyy merkkejä kuorman purkamisesta ja lastaamisesta.
These are their last 2 responses:
5.7.2023 kello 11.42 käsittelijä
Hei,
Valvontamaksu pidetään voimassa aikaisemmin saamienne reklamaatiopäätösten mukaisesti.
Kehotamme Teitä suorittamaan valvontamaksun eräpäivän mukaisesti tai heti, mikäli eräpäivä on jo mennyt umpeen. Mikäli olette jo suorittanut maksun, on tämä kehotus aiheeton. Mikäli olette saanut maksukehotuksen valvontamaksusta, kehotamme teitä toimimaan maksukehotuksessa ohjeistetulla tavalla valvontamaksun maksamisen suhteen.
Jonna
ParkkiPate Oy
7.7.2023 kello 10.00 käsittelijä
Yhteydenottonne johdosta koskien valvontamaksua asianumerolla XXXXXX katsomme teidän saamamme viranomaisohjeistuksen mukaisesti kiistäneen maksuvelvollisuutenne. Katsomme teihin kohdistuvan valvontamaksun olevan edelleen perusteltu. Voitte vielä suorittaa saatavamme sen eräpäivään mennessä, tai välittömästi mikäli eräpäivä on umpeutunut.
Mikäli jatkamme perintätoimia asiassa, tulemme turvautumaan haastemenettelyyn. Tuomioistuin tulee tällöin ratkaisemaan velkasaatavaamme koskevan asian asiassa esitetyn näytön pohjalta. Oikeudenkäyntimenettelystä koituvat kustannukset jäävät pääsäännön mukaan asian hävinneen osapuolen kustannettaviksi.
ParkkiPate Oy
I still believe that this ticket is unjustified. Even if there were no clear loading and unloading signs, I have provided them with all the evidence showing that I was actively moving my belongings and did not park inappropriately. My question is, is it against the law to temporarily stop by the entrance to unload items if you are the only person involved in the move?
I would greatly appreciate any advice you can offer regarding this case. Should I continue disputing the ticket, or would it be better to just pay it? Thank you in advance!
(Attached are the pictures of my car taken by the ticketing officers and a picture of the ticket itself.)
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by SlashPiggie
2 comments
Next time put a big sign saying ”MUUTTO” inside your windshield. Of course it doesn’t officially allow you to do anything, but makes everyone more understanding.
IANAL
I think the standard answer for Parkkipate is to always uphold the ticket, there is nothing to lose for them by telling the person to pay, only to gain.
It’s not against the law to park there, but the owner of the apartment building can set some rules for their property. In this case the apartment complex seems to have given the task of parking enforcement to Parkkipate. And they can therefore set rules for parking.
Contrary to what they say, they only take cases they believe they can win to the court. They pretend like everyone is going to get a summon to the court, but it’s only cases that they are certain they can win.
So it’s up to you to gauge whether you think you would win the case in court. Every time we have got a wrongful ticket from Parkkipate, we’ve just ignored the letter, and when we got an invoice from the debt collection, we have informed that company that the matter is disputed, and that has been the end of it. Never got a summon to the court afterwards.
However, if you do that, you run the risk of going to court, which will unfortunately be very expensive, if you lose. But if you strongly believe you’re right, then I myself personally wouldn’t pay. (Also note that there is now a lot of evidence online and provided to Parkkipate. This might have an effect on a potential legal case.)