what I’m getting from this is that 49% of the population haven’t had to experience the health system in the country recently.
The two tiered system where public consultants also work in private is a joke, public should be public and private should be private, because all we have now is a system when private patients are basically just paying to skip the queue to see the same consultants as everyone else.
Very similar to rte situation, completely overstaffed with the wrong people , staggering waste, mind boggling incompetence and not fit for purpose.
Scandinavian taxes for Soviet quality services!
Kudos to Turdridy and other leeches!
22 billion to play with
Healthcare is a disaster politically, but in policy terms it’s really not.
Meanwhile we have a [below average tax wedge on wages](https://i.imgur.com/vyaXH62.png), and in general we collect a [a below average proportion of our national income (GNI*) in tax revenue](https://i.imgur.com/wk0wt5Y.png). The pattern is similar if you look at both direct and indirect taxes where we again have [a lower tax burden than comparable countries](https://i.imgur.com/9T7QvaL.png).
We also [have only slightly above average government spending on a per capita basis](https://i.imgur.com/pFop4KP.png), and employ [fewer workers in our public sector](https://i.imgur.com/YR9ttNS.jpg). What spending we do have has to go fairly heavily, and more so than any other OECD country on social transfers in order to combat the very high gross inequality in our economy. Our tax system [does more work than any other OECD country in that regard](https://i.imgur.com/ssXQBk4.png), which is all money that cannot be spent elsewhere.
People have a demand for Nordic style social services in Ireland, but the fact is that [save for the top 20% we are not paying the tax rates they do to support that](https://i.imgur.com/LsO6fwd.png) and are coming from a lower historical capital base in the first place. It’s not like there is some other tax hiding here, we also [tax capital well below our taxes on labour](https://i.imgur.com/ApKVdiL.png).
Currently we bridge the gap with corporation tax, which is a bonanza at the moment but could go away at any time [and leave us with a deficit](https://i.imgur.com/1aZANjW.jpg). When it does there’s going to be a reckoning around what it actually costs to provide the services people want.
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What isn’t falling short in this country though?
Well that’s not accurate!
what I’m getting from this is that 49% of the population haven’t had to experience the health system in the country recently.
The two tiered system where public consultants also work in private is a joke, public should be public and private should be private, because all we have now is a system when private patients are basically just paying to skip the queue to see the same consultants as everyone else.
Very similar to rte situation, completely overstaffed with the wrong people , staggering waste, mind boggling incompetence and not fit for purpose.
Scandinavian taxes for Soviet quality services!
Kudos to Turdridy and other leeches!
22 billion to play with
Healthcare is a disaster politically, but in policy terms it’s really not.
The level of care provided in Ireland is very good, that’s true whether you look at [access](https://i.imgur.com/QjWWmCz.jpg), [unmet needs](https://i.imgur.com/iUNHyJb.png) or [healthcare outcomes](https://i.imgur.com/k6sGo1D.jpg), [number of avoidable deaths](https://i.imgur.com/WLDDTyD.png), or just general [population level outcomes](https://i.imgur.com/12OvNYn.jpg) Ireland performs well.
Notably, it does that while costing [less or about the same as comparable systems](https://i.imgur.com/6dgNe0A.png).
Meanwhile we have a [below average tax wedge on wages](https://i.imgur.com/vyaXH62.png), and in general we collect a [a below average proportion of our national income (GNI*) in tax revenue](https://i.imgur.com/wk0wt5Y.png). The pattern is similar if you look at both direct and indirect taxes where we again have [a lower tax burden than comparable countries](https://i.imgur.com/9T7QvaL.png).
We also [have only slightly above average government spending on a per capita basis](https://i.imgur.com/pFop4KP.png), and employ [fewer workers in our public sector](https://i.imgur.com/YR9ttNS.jpg). What spending we do have has to go fairly heavily, and more so than any other OECD country on social transfers in order to combat the very high gross inequality in our economy. Our tax system [does more work than any other OECD country in that regard](https://i.imgur.com/ssXQBk4.png), which is all money that cannot be spent elsewhere.
People have a demand for Nordic style social services in Ireland, but the fact is that [save for the top 20% we are not paying the tax rates they do to support that](https://i.imgur.com/LsO6fwd.png) and are coming from a lower historical capital base in the first place. It’s not like there is some other tax hiding here, we also [tax capital well below our taxes on labour](https://i.imgur.com/ApKVdiL.png).
Currently we bridge the gap with corporation tax, which is a bonanza at the moment but could go away at any time [and leave us with a deficit](https://i.imgur.com/1aZANjW.jpg). When it does there’s going to be a reckoning around what it actually costs to provide the services people want.