>Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says that Turkey will support Sweden’s NATO application for the EU opens up new talks on Turkish EU membership, AFP reports. Erdogan also says that the expansion of NATO is not connected with the purchase of the F-16 fighter jets from the United States.
>”First, open the way for Turkey’s membership to become a member of the European Union, and then we will open up for Sweden, just as we have done for Finland,” Erdogan said in a televised speech before leaving for the NATO summit in Lithuania. writes AFP.
We will stop misusing our veto power for concessions IF you get us into another club where we can get veto powers to misuse for other political goals
In other news, Sweden will never formally join NATO. Guess it is time for an EU army (please let us join).
Which means, they wont accept it, or he is starting the bargain from the high above. turkish citizens cannot even get a visitors visa let alone, accepting 90 million people into EU. Or Turkey will be excluded from the Schengen zone and people continue to “get” a visa
Meaning Turkey has been lying this whole time, and there’s no reason not to admit Sweden to NATO. Turkey in or out of the EU has nothing to do with Sweden’s capabilities as a NATO member.
Our Hariciye Ministry reports:
It appears that Padishah Recep Tayyip Erdogan I is now a Fierce Negotiator
Erdogan: “It’s not fair to demand unrelated things like that we should stop blocking the expansion of a defensive alliance just to let us buy defense equipment from another member of said alliance!”
Also Erdogan: “Here are the countless and ever-changing *completely* unrelated non-defense things we want in return for letting you into this defensive alliance!”
… and then his online supporters claim any criticism of this fucker is “turkophobia” and “racism”, while Erdo is of course *totally* reasonable.
We should never let turkey into EU letting 80 million muslims freely being able to move and work in eu countries would be so damaging every country would want to leave EU.
If you give a blackmailer what he wants, he will just try to get more.
Nato != EU, my man is conflating things.
Oh here we go, what a surprise! I didn’t agree with Sweden giving in a single mm to please Erdogan in the first place. Swedish politicians promising all sorts that is no benefit to Sweden. What’s next? Why would we want to be in an alliance with a country that is essentially using blackmail? No thank you.
Erdogan is trying to not give up. One point he will eventually agree like he did to an American Priest but it is good that he is holding. This is a defensive organisation and it is too funny that somebody to join via ignoring defensive concerns of another country.
Good for him using his leverage. Nothing wrong with that. Obviously he knows he won’t take everything he asks for but even one or two things will be more than he had yesterday. My money is on the jets, that’s what his after.
Does Erdogan realise that joining the EU would mean him having to give up absolute control over turkey?
Turkey in EU is a big no-no.
What would he do if NATO would just kick him out and let Sweden in? He would beg to return. Erdogan needs NATO more than NATO needs Erdogan. He would be wise not to overplay his hand.
Make sweden give us 50 billion usd or they see NATO in their dreams..
Proposed solution:
Europe: “Hey, uncle Sam, if you don’t rein in Türkiye we will quit NATO, create an EU Army (Norway invited) and would love entering a bilateral alliance with you.”
Erdogan: Pikachu-face
If EU allows this, we are the dumbest union ever.
This has to be a joke.
European countries favored him during the election as he is the only one who wouldn’t arise problems for refugees and EU constantly bribed him for years…
Now, people are writing that he misuses his power… Oh well, maybe EU should think about the consequences of these from the beginning when they were backing up Erdogan.
He is not doing anything different than EU did regarding refugee crysis.
I’m convinced Turkey will never join the EU.
Everyone already knows what will be talked about, and if Turkey doesn’t concede to Cypriot and Greek demands they will never join. No point
Fuck Erdogan. We have enough tin-pot despots in EU already. Perhaps Hungary, Poland and Turkey could create their own little club and slide into dictatorship together?
FUCK. OFF.
not getting another wannabe dictator into the EU, who can block every mayor decision we want to make and hold us hostage.
This simply can’t happen. Turkeys EU membership is actively denied by multiple countries, not all of them are NATO members.
Austria for example couldn’t care less about any deal between NATO and Turkey.
So, this is just Erdoğan talking again.
Yeah, Turkey definitely doesn’t qualify for the EU in its current state. So I guess it is pretty safe to “resume talks”?
> We have reviewed your resume and will have to respectfully decline your application. Thank you for your interest in the EU and good luck in your future endeavours.
Talks successfully resumed and ended.
This tyrannical POS is pretty much just saying this to rile people up.
To appear reasonable to his base.
Lmao on France’s dead body is Turkey going to have any realistic chance of joining the EU anytime soon.
well RIP sweden
I don’t care for Erdogan, but their ascension to the EU hit a major stumbling block around the same time that Cyprus gained full EU membership. If they hadn’t started vetoing *starting* the process of some of the chapters in 2005 – a year after they joined – then modern Turkiye might look very different.
Turkiye belongs in the EU, they’ve been part of European union councils since the end of WWII.
This cynical way of putting things is actually the standard. You’re all acting shocked that he’s saying the quiet parts out loud. Goes to show how little reddit understands of how world affairs work.
If he’s right or wrong by doing this, is irrelevant.
It isn’t worth it. Coming from an American, US, Sweden will already be protected even if it isn’t in NATO. The US alone would never allow Russia to threaten even less so invade Sweden. Not to mention the rest of Europe would never let that happen.
If the EU lets Turkey in, it will severely damage the organization and its pro democratic institutions. Just my thought.
Ok Erdoboy, let’s do what you say & resume the talks on membership.
[*Talks restart*]
**EU:** Will you leave Cyprus?
**TR:** No.
[*Talks recollapse*]
Not even pretending this is about security any more, just a corrupt exchange of favors.
RIP Swedish NATO membership
talks can resume alright…. but dont think they will lead anywhere considering the current state of Turkey.
Make sure 0 member states want you in the EU any % Speedrun
I hate the country I was born and have been living for my whole life.
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>Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says that Turkey will support Sweden’s NATO application for the EU opens up new talks on Turkish EU membership, AFP reports. Erdogan also says that the expansion of NATO is not connected with the purchase of the F-16 fighter jets from the United States.
>”First, open the way for Turkey’s membership to become a member of the European Union, and then we will open up for Sweden, just as we have done for Finland,” Erdogan said in a televised speech before leaving for the NATO summit in Lithuania. writes AFP.
We will stop misusing our veto power for concessions IF you get us into another club where we can get veto powers to misuse for other political goals
In other news, Sweden will never formally join NATO. Guess it is time for an EU army (please let us join).
Which means, they wont accept it, or he is starting the bargain from the high above. turkish citizens cannot even get a visitors visa let alone, accepting 90 million people into EU. Or Turkey will be excluded from the Schengen zone and people continue to “get” a visa
Meaning Turkey has been lying this whole time, and there’s no reason not to admit Sweden to NATO. Turkey in or out of the EU has nothing to do with Sweden’s capabilities as a NATO member.
Our Hariciye Ministry reports:
It appears that Padishah Recep Tayyip Erdogan I is now a Fierce Negotiator
Erdogan: “It’s not fair to demand unrelated things like that we should stop blocking the expansion of a defensive alliance just to let us buy defense equipment from another member of said alliance!”
Also Erdogan: “Here are the countless and ever-changing *completely* unrelated non-defense things we want in return for letting you into this defensive alliance!”
… and then his online supporters claim any criticism of this fucker is “turkophobia” and “racism”, while Erdo is of course *totally* reasonable.
We should never let turkey into EU letting 80 million muslims freely being able to move and work in eu countries would be so damaging every country would want to leave EU.
If you give a blackmailer what he wants, he will just try to get more.
Nato != EU, my man is conflating things.
Oh here we go, what a surprise! I didn’t agree with Sweden giving in a single mm to please Erdogan in the first place. Swedish politicians promising all sorts that is no benefit to Sweden. What’s next? Why would we want to be in an alliance with a country that is essentially using blackmail? No thank you.
Erdogan is trying to not give up. One point he will eventually agree like he did to an American Priest but it is good that he is holding. This is a defensive organisation and it is too funny that somebody to join via ignoring defensive concerns of another country.
Good for him using his leverage. Nothing wrong with that. Obviously he knows he won’t take everything he asks for but even one or two things will be more than he had yesterday. My money is on the jets, that’s what his after.
Does Erdogan realise that joining the EU would mean him having to give up absolute control over turkey?
Turkey in EU is a big no-no.
What would he do if NATO would just kick him out and let Sweden in? He would beg to return. Erdogan needs NATO more than NATO needs Erdogan. He would be wise not to overplay his hand.
Make sweden give us 50 billion usd or they see NATO in their dreams..
Proposed solution:
Europe: “Hey, uncle Sam, if you don’t rein in Türkiye we will quit NATO, create an EU Army (Norway invited) and would love entering a bilateral alliance with you.”
Erdogan: Pikachu-face
If EU allows this, we are the dumbest union ever.
This has to be a joke.
European countries favored him during the election as he is the only one who wouldn’t arise problems for refugees and EU constantly bribed him for years…
Now, people are writing that he misuses his power… Oh well, maybe EU should think about the consequences of these from the beginning when they were backing up Erdogan.
He is not doing anything different than EU did regarding refugee crysis.
I’m convinced Turkey will never join the EU.
Everyone already knows what will be talked about, and if Turkey doesn’t concede to Cypriot and Greek demands they will never join. No point
Fuck Erdogan. We have enough tin-pot despots in EU already. Perhaps Hungary, Poland and Turkey could create their own little club and slide into dictatorship together?
FUCK. OFF.
not getting another wannabe dictator into the EU, who can block every mayor decision we want to make and hold us hostage.
This simply can’t happen. Turkeys EU membership is actively denied by multiple countries, not all of them are NATO members.
Austria for example couldn’t care less about any deal between NATO and Turkey.
So, this is just Erdoğan talking again.
Yeah, Turkey definitely doesn’t qualify for the EU in its current state. So I guess it is pretty safe to “resume talks”?
> We have reviewed your resume and will have to respectfully decline your application. Thank you for your interest in the EU and good luck in your future endeavours.
Talks successfully resumed and ended.
This tyrannical POS is pretty much just saying this to rile people up.
To appear reasonable to his base.
Lmao on France’s dead body is Turkey going to have any realistic chance of joining the EU anytime soon.
well RIP sweden
I don’t care for Erdogan, but their ascension to the EU hit a major stumbling block around the same time that Cyprus gained full EU membership. If they hadn’t started vetoing *starting* the process of some of the chapters in 2005 – a year after they joined – then modern Turkiye might look very different.
Turkiye belongs in the EU, they’ve been part of European union councils since the end of WWII.
This cynical way of putting things is actually the standard. You’re all acting shocked that he’s saying the quiet parts out loud. Goes to show how little reddit understands of how world affairs work.
If he’s right or wrong by doing this, is irrelevant.
It isn’t worth it. Coming from an American, US, Sweden will already be protected even if it isn’t in NATO. The US alone would never allow Russia to threaten even less so invade Sweden. Not to mention the rest of Europe would never let that happen.
If the EU lets Turkey in, it will severely damage the organization and its pro democratic institutions. Just my thought.
Ok Erdoboy, let’s do what you say & resume the talks on membership.
[*Talks restart*]
**EU:** Will you leave Cyprus?
**TR:** No.
[*Talks recollapse*]
Not even pretending this is about security any more, just a corrupt exchange of favors.
RIP Swedish NATO membership
talks can resume alright…. but dont think they will lead anywhere considering the current state of Turkey.
Make sure 0 member states want you in the EU any % Speedrun
I hate the country I was born and have been living for my whole life.
But 90% of turky is in asia