“We are aware that President Putin also has certain expectations from Western countries, and it is crucial for these countries to take action in this regard,” Erdoğan said.
What expectations Ruzzia has other than “West should give up” that Erdogan is talking about?
No. We should not be susceptible to blackmail.
Well that didn’t take long for Turkiye to show up on the Russian sidelines again.
Appeasement only encourages further aggressive gambits.
“If you give a mouse a cookie, …”
How about fuck off
He should let NATO warships into the black sea and there be no need for a grain deal.
What a surprise.
Good ol’ Erdogan: still playing both sides.
Well if th Russians already blew up the grain what more need is there of the grain deal?
Russia should accept the expectation of the west to pull troops out of Ukraines 1991 borders.
The expectations are russian terrorists will die or leave Ukraine.
Russian grain ships go fuck yourselves.
No way
Turkey is the looser here as they do depend a surprising amount on Ukrainian grain. Erdogan is is being a bit spineless here….
How about we provide the tools to neutralize the black sea fleet.. then there won’t be a problem
Lets reconfirm sanctions
Turkey should agree to use their Navy to escort ships though the Black Sea. Erdogan wants to be respected on the world stage, do this.
I find it interesting that in Erdogans mind somehow “the west” supposedly has obligations from a deal it is not participant of. Since when is that a thing. It’s actually illegal to create a contract at the expense of a third party in any country where that word has meaning.
How quick the rats jump ship lol
We should be using our Navy and escorting the grain ships out of Ukraine. Russia can fuck off. Attack a NATO ship and see what happens to your floating garbage tanks.
Tayyip “the Russian pet poodle” Erdogan
🤣🤣🤣🤡
He is going on his knees to Putin and agreeing to give Putin what he wants so that Putin will be a little but less evil. Giving in Putin isn’t a solution, it is capitulation. And hands Putin a major monetary and propaganda victory. It is this sort of capitulation that factored into Putins decision to invade Ukraine in the first place.
Instead, Turkey should provide security guarantees using its warships and see if Russia wants to attack a NATO country and lose the entirety of its black sea fleet
Can we just rid the filthy ‘Motherland’ from global trade?
Nothing but aggressive and selfish behavior from the Moscovites.
Was thinking about this as well… There was a deal to allow grain from both Russia and Ukraine to leave the Black Sea without molestation. If the world is not buying Russian grain then what is Russia’s incentive to remain part of the deal. IMO, grain should be excluded from sanctions so that Ukrainians can sell their grain, too.
And be seen as spineless pathetic cowards from whom you can extort anything you want, not the best idea if you want any kind of respect around the world.
Erdoğan needs to, have an accident.
Any thoughts on whether Erdogan could deny access to all ships traveling to Russia through the straights because of the threats by Russia and Ukraine to “International shipping lanes”.
Lift all sanctions against us, let our fertiliser through and stop arming Ukraine and we’ll let all this grain that is going to the developing world go. Basically ‘we’re being dicks and because you’ve reacted to us being dicks we’re going to continue to be dicks until you accept that we’re just going to be dicks all of the time’
They know their demands are unreasonable. Give in to that and they’ll be completely unreasonable somewhere else, then somewhere else until they’ve got everything they wanted.
Erdogan doing U turns back and forth btw NATO and Putin.
No.
What happened to NATO or the west, man?
What happened to the people who did the Berlin Airlift through (Basically) Soviet Airspace and didn’t give a damn?
And now we are scared to escort ships literally through international waters? Ridiculous!
People here are talking about Turkey this and Turkey that. Let me ask you something then, where are the other Naval empires? Where’s the US Navy, with its 11 Supercarriers. Where’s His Majesty’s Navy, who once ruled the seven seas. Where’s the French Navy? The Italian Navy?
Are any of these navies lining up in-front of the Bosphorous Strait itching to get into the Black Sea to give Russia a one two?
The reality is: no, they are not. Ukraine, for all of NATO’s blustering and peacocking, is alone in this.
We should tear up the Montreux convention and bring anglo warships in the Black Sea.
Now Putin has his lackey out stirring up the issue because the West isn’t falling for his threats
I hope they can work out deals that reroute the grain so it makes Putin even less damaging and less powerful.
Can a NATO country be kicked out of the alliance?
I must be getting senile. I thought turkey had said they would protect shipping? Didn’t they? It’s all a bit academic if insurers won’t cover the freighters anyway
What a joke. Are we at least going to ask them to lube up before we let them shaft us?
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“We are aware that President Putin also has certain expectations from Western countries, and it is crucial for these countries to take action in this regard,” Erdoğan said.
What expectations Ruzzia has other than “West should give up” that Erdogan is talking about?
No. We should not be susceptible to blackmail.
Well that didn’t take long for Turkiye to show up on the Russian sidelines again.
Appeasement only encourages further aggressive gambits.
“If you give a mouse a cookie, …”
How about fuck off
He should let NATO warships into the black sea and there be no need for a grain deal.
What a surprise.
Good ol’ Erdogan: still playing both sides.
Well if th Russians already blew up the grain what more need is there of the grain deal?
Russia should accept the expectation of the west to pull troops out of Ukraines 1991 borders.
The expectations are russian terrorists will die or leave Ukraine.
Russian grain ships go fuck yourselves.
No way
Turkey is the looser here as they do depend a surprising amount on Ukrainian grain. Erdogan is is being a bit spineless here….
How about we provide the tools to neutralize the black sea fleet.. then there won’t be a problem
Lets reconfirm sanctions
Turkey should agree to use their Navy to escort ships though the Black Sea. Erdogan wants to be respected on the world stage, do this.
I find it interesting that in Erdogans mind somehow “the west” supposedly has obligations from a deal it is not participant of. Since when is that a thing. It’s actually illegal to create a contract at the expense of a third party in any country where that word has meaning.
How quick the rats jump ship lol
We should be using our Navy and escorting the grain ships out of Ukraine. Russia can fuck off. Attack a NATO ship and see what happens to your floating garbage tanks.
Tayyip “the Russian pet poodle” Erdogan
🤣🤣🤣🤡
He is going on his knees to Putin and agreeing to give Putin what he wants so that Putin will be a little but less evil. Giving in Putin isn’t a solution, it is capitulation. And hands Putin a major monetary and propaganda victory. It is this sort of capitulation that factored into Putins decision to invade Ukraine in the first place.
Instead, Turkey should provide security guarantees using its warships and see if Russia wants to attack a NATO country and lose the entirety of its black sea fleet
Can we just rid the filthy ‘Motherland’ from global trade?
Nothing but aggressive and selfish behavior from the Moscovites.
Was thinking about this as well… There was a deal to allow grain from both Russia and Ukraine to leave the Black Sea without molestation. If the world is not buying Russian grain then what is Russia’s incentive to remain part of the deal. IMO, grain should be excluded from sanctions so that Ukrainians can sell their grain, too.
And be seen as spineless pathetic cowards from whom you can extort anything you want, not the best idea if you want any kind of respect around the world.
Erdoğan needs to, have an accident.
Any thoughts on whether Erdogan could deny access to all ships traveling to Russia through the straights because of the threats by Russia and Ukraine to “International shipping lanes”.
Lift all sanctions against us, let our fertiliser through and stop arming Ukraine and we’ll let all this grain that is going to the developing world go. Basically ‘we’re being dicks and because you’ve reacted to us being dicks we’re going to continue to be dicks until you accept that we’re just going to be dicks all of the time’
They know their demands are unreasonable. Give in to that and they’ll be completely unreasonable somewhere else, then somewhere else until they’ve got everything they wanted.
Erdogan doing U turns back and forth btw NATO and Putin.
No.
What happened to NATO or the west, man?
What happened to the people who did the Berlin Airlift through (Basically) Soviet Airspace and didn’t give a damn?
And now we are scared to escort ships literally through international waters? Ridiculous!
People here are talking about Turkey this and Turkey that. Let me ask you something then, where are the other Naval empires? Where’s the US Navy, with its 11 Supercarriers. Where’s His Majesty’s Navy, who once ruled the seven seas. Where’s the French Navy? The Italian Navy?
Are any of these navies lining up in-front of the Bosphorous Strait itching to get into the Black Sea to give Russia a one two?
The reality is: no, they are not. Ukraine, for all of NATO’s blustering and peacocking, is alone in this.
We should tear up the Montreux convention and bring anglo warships in the Black Sea.
Now Putin has his lackey out stirring up the issue because the West isn’t falling for his threats
I hope they can work out deals that reroute the grain so it makes Putin even less damaging and less powerful.
Can a NATO country be kicked out of the alliance?
I must be getting senile. I thought turkey had said they would protect shipping? Didn’t they? It’s all a bit academic if insurers won’t cover the freighters anyway
What a joke. Are we at least going to ask them to lube up before we let them shaft us?
No