Is nuclear energy green? France and Germany lead opposing camps.

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  1. Nuclear energy is a solid and foremost vehicle for transformation to a renewable green grid.

    You cannot get to full renewable without nuclear- you cannot go from coal and LNG to solar, you need nuclear to fit demand.

  2. People need to get their head out of their ass and understand the concept of “lesser evil”.

    The options are coal, oil/gas and nuclear since we still don’t have a way to rely 100% on Renewables unless the country has excellent hydro infrastracture like Norway.

    Coal —> Pollutes the environment more than anything + causes respiratory problems to workers and communities around the mines

    Oil/Gas —> Also a big polluter + forces the countries to have to deal with authoritarian medieval exporters like Russia and the Gulf Nations, leaving them vulnerable to their controlling of prices to play geopolitics.

    Nuclear is the lesser evil, and people can’t wrap their heads around it because they get scared by the words “Hiroshima”, “Chernobyl”, “Fukushima” and get emotionally manipulated when they see photos of radiation victims.

  3. Even if you’re staunchly opposed to nuclear, you must admit that now is about the worst time to shut them down. Coal and oil are the real killers right now, nuclear and gas have to wait until we got climate change under control. They’re not nice by any means, but a valuable tool for transition to a green energy grid nonetheless.

  4. Germany is investing a lot into hydrogen technology so it would be interesting to see where that leads to

  5. Green*ER*. Simple.

    Nuclear is not perfect.

    Nuclear is not a great call if you live some place seismically active (looking at you Japan).

    Nuclear is not a great call if your industry and/or government has a shit track record with safety (looking at you USSR, RIP).

    Western Europe however, has had a 6+ decades of nuclear industry and there’s not been even 1 Major or Serious accident. Not one.

    (those are the top two levels of nuclear mishaps. Chernobyl and Fukushima were both major accidents/ level 7 / top level)

  6. The problem is the term green, just make a new label that says zero-emission on production and be done with it.

  7. This discussion on the risks (incredibly low, but if it goes wrong it goes very wrong) and the waste storage is fine, but what we should absolutely avoid is shutting down nuclear power plants prematurely. There’s no logic to doing that in the middle of an energy transition other than pointless grandstanding. Of the ‘old’ energy sources, nuclear energy should be the absolute last one to be shut down if you’re planning to get rid of it. It’s ridiculous that Germany has brown coal plants that are open longer than a nuclear plant.

  8. Italy must quit its navel gazing and throw its weight behind the European nuclear power policy. The Italians must realize fast that German-speaking peoples excluding the Swiss are *batshit* when it comes to energy.

  9. Nuclear is the most *reliable* and safest form of energy. Anyone who supports reducing co2 emissions and saving the environment and not for nuclear, is deeply confused or misinformed

  10. This german policy is the worst thing they have done to the world since the rise of Hitler.

    It is much worse than the systematic fraud by major german car manufacturers, making their cars look a lot greener than they really were.

  11. Ir it were even plausible to relly 100% on renewables, then I might not call the greens “fucking iduots”. But it isn’t and so I do.

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