I know the area but don’t really have a dog in this fight. That said they’ll stick out like dogs balls and schools in the area are already over subscribed with locals struggling to get places.
Funny to see complaints about the height when you can see the multiple stories of the Beacon Hospital in the background, not to mention the massive Beacon South Quarter complex
Is there some kind of special glasses a lot of Dublin residents are wearing? Because I can’t see this “skyline” or “character” there are trying to protect.
Funny enough The Sentinel is just out of shot of that photo. It’s been standing there since 2007, unfinished. Why don’t they just finish that? I’m not siding with NIMBYs here but if I lived in the area I’d want the 16 year long, 13 story construction project finished before they started another one as well
Better yet, do both! Beacon South Quarter isn’t some historical area with no history of tall buildings. Some of the biggest apartment complexes in Dublin are 30 seconds from the article photo location.
>Short term lettings/social housing, which is what these units are for, do not fit in with the current mature neighbouring estates.
>There are significant concerns that come with this, for example, anti-social behaviour.”
So renters don’t offer anything to the community? Because people who can afford over 2K a month in rent can only do so because of crime. What kind of logic is that?
The way these people look down on renters, including the government is a disgrace. There is nothing wrong with people who rent. In fact, most of our highest paid workers are renters. Without them, we would have no economy at all.
As well as that, if the area is lacking teachers, nurses etc, do you expect them to buy a house first before taking on the job?
These nimby’s are something else.
Rofl I lived in the apartment block opposite this estate and the only social issues it had was the teenagers from this estate coming over looking for something to do / hassle residents. These people are the source of this anti-social behavior. This is absolutely hilarious and ironic to me that the same residents from that estate would choose this reason to try to block it 😂😂😂
They would come over and go up the fire escape / stand in the balcony outside my apartment and bang on the window and then leg it – straight back to this estate – I’ll have a good chuckle about how the tables have turned for the rest of today.
Is it just me or are some of these objections, beyond right or wrong, simply insulting?
On the one hand, what the hell does ‘offer nothing to the community mean’? It often feels like that because of how cards are stacked against us, but are they clearly stating that we renters are just second class citizens?
On the other hand, the antisocial behaviour comment is stupid. Just looking at the profile of people who may benefit from these developments and the usual suspects of antisocial behaviour in Ireland, if anything I’d brt the latter are much more likely to live in traditional residential neighbourhoods.
I never understand this argument. People wanting to move to your neighbourhood, or a developer wanting to build in your area, represents a vote of confidence in your area. It’s a stamp of desirability, meaning people want to live there, which only increases the area’s attraction and value. These NIMBYs have such misconceived ideas it’s actually sad.
If they were called the anti-social apartments I’d probably oppose them as well.
They need a better name like the really social apartments.
Sandyford has a community now? Doesnt feel like it anytime I pass through, its dead on the weekends
Does Sandyford have much of a community to begin with?
If the building is not in keeping with the rest of the neighbourhood, built beside the M50, the LUAS, and a huge economic centre, it’s the rest of the neighbourhood which is the problem. If people want to live close to those sort of amenities, it’s apartments they should be living in. Any semi-D within walking distance should be CPOd and rebuilt for higher density.
The absolute bottom line in Ireland to solve the housing crisis is to build upwards. Whether people like it or not. And this can be done on new greenfield sites , not squashed into already jam packed existing residential areas. The gov or developer pay to add in the services needed. The gov is awash with money. Just get it done. Their lack of ability at being able to make decisions and run successful capital development campaigns (children’s hospital, metro North etc) is mind-blowing
Yea this idea that people have a say in anything happening in their neighbourhood needs to die. It’s not a thing in the rest of the world. You don’t like the way your neighbourhood is changing, you move to one you do like. That’s how it works.
The scale of the development will still be out of character with the surrounding area. As such, the original objections we had still stand,” Mr Cummins said.
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this seems to be common everywhere. do locals think we can just continue to build semi ds + bungalows like they did in the 80s? complete nonsense. hopefully they are ignored.
I would argue that lack of social housing would lead to more anti social behavior.
These kind of objections are ridiculous and elitist.
How is it on the provider of accommodation to offer anything besides accommodation to the community anyway?
If more people live there more services will become viable to the area.
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Just more NIMBY bullshit.
I know the area but don’t really have a dog in this fight. That said they’ll stick out like dogs balls and schools in the area are already over subscribed with locals struggling to get places.
Funny to see complaints about the height when you can see the multiple stories of the Beacon Hospital in the background, not to mention the massive Beacon South Quarter complex
Is there some kind of special glasses a lot of Dublin residents are wearing? Because I can’t see this “skyline” or “character” there are trying to protect.
Funny enough The Sentinel is just out of shot of that photo. It’s been standing there since 2007, unfinished. Why don’t they just finish that? I’m not siding with NIMBYs here but if I lived in the area I’d want the 16 year long, 13 story construction project finished before they started another one as well
Better yet, do both! Beacon South Quarter isn’t some historical area with no history of tall buildings. Some of the biggest apartment complexes in Dublin are 30 seconds from the article photo location.
>Short term lettings/social housing, which is what these units are for, do not fit in with the current mature neighbouring estates.
>There are significant concerns that come with this, for example, anti-social behaviour.”
So renters don’t offer anything to the community? Because people who can afford over 2K a month in rent can only do so because of crime. What kind of logic is that?
The way these people look down on renters, including the government is a disgrace. There is nothing wrong with people who rent. In fact, most of our highest paid workers are renters. Without them, we would have no economy at all.
As well as that, if the area is lacking teachers, nurses etc, do you expect them to buy a house first before taking on the job?
These nimby’s are something else.
Rofl I lived in the apartment block opposite this estate and the only social issues it had was the teenagers from this estate coming over looking for something to do / hassle residents. These people are the source of this anti-social behavior. This is absolutely hilarious and ironic to me that the same residents from that estate would choose this reason to try to block it 😂😂😂
They would come over and go up the fire escape / stand in the balcony outside my apartment and bang on the window and then leg it – straight back to this estate – I’ll have a good chuckle about how the tables have turned for the rest of today.
Is it just me or are some of these objections, beyond right or wrong, simply insulting?
On the one hand, what the hell does ‘offer nothing to the community mean’? It often feels like that because of how cards are stacked against us, but are they clearly stating that we renters are just second class citizens?
On the other hand, the antisocial behaviour comment is stupid. Just looking at the profile of people who may benefit from these developments and the usual suspects of antisocial behaviour in Ireland, if anything I’d brt the latter are much more likely to live in traditional residential neighbourhoods.
I never understand this argument. People wanting to move to your neighbourhood, or a developer wanting to build in your area, represents a vote of confidence in your area. It’s a stamp of desirability, meaning people want to live there, which only increases the area’s attraction and value. These NIMBYs have such misconceived ideas it’s actually sad.
If they were called the anti-social apartments I’d probably oppose them as well.
They need a better name like the really social apartments.
Sandyford has a community now? Doesnt feel like it anytime I pass through, its dead on the weekends
Does Sandyford have much of a community to begin with?
If the building is not in keeping with the rest of the neighbourhood, built beside the M50, the LUAS, and a huge economic centre, it’s the rest of the neighbourhood which is the problem. If people want to live close to those sort of amenities, it’s apartments they should be living in. Any semi-D within walking distance should be CPOd and rebuilt for higher density.
The absolute bottom line in Ireland to solve the housing crisis is to build upwards. Whether people like it or not. And this can be done on new greenfield sites , not squashed into already jam packed existing residential areas. The gov or developer pay to add in the services needed. The gov is awash with money. Just get it done. Their lack of ability at being able to make decisions and run successful capital development campaigns (children’s hospital, metro North etc) is mind-blowing
Yea this idea that people have a say in anything happening in their neighbourhood needs to die. It’s not a thing in the rest of the world. You don’t like the way your neighbourhood is changing, you move to one you do like. That’s how it works.
The scale of the development will still be out of character with the surrounding area. As such, the original objections we had still stand,” Mr Cummins said.
​
this seems to be common everywhere. do locals think we can just continue to build semi ds + bungalows like they did in the 80s? complete nonsense. hopefully they are ignored.
I would argue that lack of social housing would lead to more anti social behavior.
These kind of objections are ridiculous and elitist.
How is it on the provider of accommodation to offer anything besides accommodation to the community anyway?
If more people live there more services will become viable to the area.