Pity the poor, oppressed driver forced to share their roads with the rest of us | Catherine Bennett

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  1. r/fuckcars

    I am an avid F1 fan and I love cars. But as a means to move people around they’re just fucking awful. I hate them. They have destroyed our neighbourhoods with seas of concrete. Urgh.

  2. >A serial traffic offender who was lucky to trash nothing more than her own car, has, the public may instead have noted, been more forgivingly treated than the Insulate Britain pedestrians jailed in November. 

    Lmao, all these people hand wringing recently about protesters being in the way and obnoxious, whilst you can be coked up and driving or hit someone with a car and get less punishment.

    Personally since it’s such a magnet for narcissistic violent chimps we shouldn’t be selling or allowing 4x4s or other unnecessary models of cars, they’re almost always being used by some city dweller who only wants something big for their ego anyways. Same way we don’t let anyone have a gun without a good reason.

  3. Apart from everything else I can’t get over how much space parked cars take up in our towns and cities. Otherwise pleasant streets filled with stationary metal lumps… Size bloat in recent decades has made it even worse.

  4. The solution really to reduce the number of cars on the road is to invest in public transport. Ideally with London levels of spending everywhere in the country. For as long as busses remain unreliable / take twice as long if not more / even go somewhere at all / a combination of these, people will drive.

  5. I’m a driver and cyclist. Never felt oppressed – driving is a freedom and privilege. I have however, felt in extreme danger as a cyclist. I’d say 30% of drivers are dangerous pricks.

    I support these new Highway Code rules. But will they be enforced? I’m doubtful given current rules aren’t.

  6. got to agree with the sentiment behind the article, even as a motorist. When serial vehicular criminals and people who use a vehicle to try and actually murder someone are treated with significantly greater leniency than a peaceful protester, we really need to question the direction we are heading in as a society.

  7. As a cyclist its pitiful listening to motorist complain about us being on the road.

    “Share the Road” They use that term against us. Yet it just shows how stupid they are because they simply don’t understand what it means.

    Share the road doesn’t mean cyclist think they have a right to slow you down and piss you off. Share the road simply means Cyclists have a right to use the road and be given a respectful clearance so they do not end up crushed under your fucking tyres.

    Think to myself, what if I walked up to a motorist and threaten to knock out their Mrs? How would they react to that? But its okay for a motorist to intentionally swerve towards you to show how pissed off they are? Like its just a joke?

  8. r/fuckcars is one of my favourite sustainable transport subs. [Lots of funny memes](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/top/?t=all) about entitled drivers. Combined with [positive news about different places restructuring their transport.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/search/?q=before%20after)

    [This illustration](https://i.imgur.com/3Vr0mcE.png) and [it’s knock offs](https://i.imgur.com/a2NlGzG.png) really aggravates me on some level. It already bothered me seeing ten to twenty cars lined up at traffic lights – likely to travel 15 minutes to a store and back. All those unnecessary emissions. But the concession of so much of my every day space to something that not only uninterested in myself but is actively harmful to the planet. Real nails on a chalkboard discomfort.

    Let’s do better. We need government investment in our bus and rail. We need independent cycle routes. And when those things are in place we can start bumping up road tax for personal-use vehicles and eventually pedestrianising the majority of our streets. Would you prefer your street was filled with cars or with greenery?

  9. Cars are a cultural problem in the UK. Our public transport is shit because we have too many cars. We have too many cars because car ownership is seen as a necessary step to adulthood. If we can get rid of the idea that cars are necessary, we can improve public transport.

  10. If you have family far away, or you want to get somewhere that is not well served by public transport, then you have to drive. Rather than just hate motorists, like half this comment thread does, work with legislation to widen public transport access and offer better infrastructure. To see my family in Edinburgh with my partner costs £300 via train – it costs us about £50 in fuel.

    I’m fortunate enough to be able to cycle to work currently but that’s not a luxury for everyone

  11. You can’t swing a dick in my local community fb groups without hitting at least ten people bitching about absolutely any measure that could be deemed “anti car” aka anything that makes life slightly better for us pedestrian plebs. Drives me mad.

  12. I’m sympathetic so far as the situation with her boy goes, as I’ve been there myself in providing care for loved ones with complex levels of need, though I would add millions do what she has done with nowhere near the level of resources she has, or support.

    But that is about it.

    I’ve got zero tolerance for motorists who break the law.
    Don’t care how important/popular you think you are or the journey you are taking.

    My mother nearly had her life ended by one of you because you decided your phone was more important, ended up in a care home before her time as a result (she went in before even getting her pension)

    She is living the rest of her life immobile and in pain/discomfort which is not likely to be much longer because of the complications of inactivity/underlying health
    (by which I mean the animal responsible rendered her wheelchair/bedbound)

    Its fucking outrageous you can do this to a person and their family and not even see the inside of a prison cell (impact to livelihood my arse) The law is a bad joke.

    And yes.. I appreciate that fortunately this was not the case with the person concerned, but you know as well as I do people like her are very unlikely to avoid a sentence if that were the case. Trouble is people never think they could be involved in such a thing till it happens.

  13. I seen a VW type 1 camper parked next to a Fiat 500 XL and dimension wise the Fiat was larger( albeit the VW was lowered a wee bit).

  14. Don’t worry folks. Young people can’t buy houses anymore cos they cost £300k. When they rent it takes over half their income. An electric car is £35-50k.
    Fuel prices are through the roof.
    Pretty soon no one will be able to afford a car.

  15. I don’t get how a coked up drunk could claim they can’t have their license removed as they need to drive due to caring responsibilities.

    If you’re willing to put lives in danger that includes your son in the car. He’d be safer elsewhere

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