Without a comparison to previous weeks (not contained in the article) this is not a very useful metric.
It’s an almost meaningless number without any comparison to enforcement figures from other weeks.
Completely pointless unless the people committing crime see the inside of a cell.
That’ll be a lot of suspended sentences to process
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5, 500 or 5000 is completely irrelevant. They will all just add another conviction to their 50+ other convictions. All the while experiencing zero consequences for their actions
I doubt it
Arrested 500+ people to clog up more paperwork time for guards, and have them all eventually receive suspended sentences, *if* it even gets that far…. Seems like it will be seen as a meaningless effort overall.
It’s funny that the Gards only ever become good at stats when it suits their needs. God forbid we have long- term crime statistics, conviction rates, indicators, etc. like other countries..
How many conviction though?
There’s no room to lock any of them up anyway, so what’s the point? They’re not afraid of getting arrested as most of them have been in and out since they were teens, and the ones that are employed usually aren’t legally so.
Only four people mentioned here were said to have been charged with the crimes they were accused of. Mass arrests are only good if they result in mass charges and convictions as that shows they were legitimate arrests.
Otherwise it’s just the police going in heavy-handed and uncontrolled which will lead to problems and people in those areas reacting even more negatively toward the Gardaí if they’re just arresting people for no reason.
Although it’s no wonder this is how the former RUC’s Drew Harris has decided to approach the issue, the RUC do have form for it.
The source is the Gardaí institution itself.
This is not journalism its state propaganda. Between the Gardaí and independent its extremely likely these figures that come without context are absolute bullshit.
If you were to believe these numbers, they show they are over staffed enough to still be playing war on drugs with people’s lives, oppression rather than policing.
509 arrests, 500 or which were done by abusing drug laws and so only 89 were related to drugs.
That’s 9 legitimate arrests. Well fucking done. The article goes on to repeat more bullshit figures. The article is proof of why policing has failed in Ireland, an overwhelming amount of their time is wasted on keeping the drug market lucrative for armed criminal gangs.
2% policing, 98% oppression and funding terrorists.
Wondwr if we hit a house with a tourist would we get more houses?
Ohhh Helen is clearly tough on crime people.
What muppet thought putting that out would change people’s minds.
This shit would be laughable if it wasn’t painful how ignorant they are, this broken windows shit for publicity is exactly what’s left communities to rot internationally.
Ah yes because I’m sure all those lads when they eventually get their sentence for 6 months after a year’s worth of legal ineptitude time for possession or shoplifting will be right and productive members of society that won’t plague the streets or network with harder criminals.
Recidivism rates for juvenile offenders is higher than that of prisons. Which is already a laughingstock for those involved in organised crime (some of which are guards obviously)….System working as intended I guess
Guess we’ll have to wait for the next circus of PR arrests producing career criminals after the next international scandal.
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Without a comparison to previous weeks (not contained in the article) this is not a very useful metric.
It’s an almost meaningless number without any comparison to enforcement figures from other weeks.
Completely pointless unless the people committing crime see the inside of a cell.
That’ll be a lot of suspended sentences to process
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5, 500 or 5000 is completely irrelevant. They will all just add another conviction to their 50+ other convictions. All the while experiencing zero consequences for their actions
I doubt it
Arrested 500+ people to clog up more paperwork time for guards, and have them all eventually receive suspended sentences, *if* it even gets that far…. Seems like it will be seen as a meaningless effort overall.
It’s funny that the Gards only ever become good at stats when it suits their needs. God forbid we have long- term crime statistics, conviction rates, indicators, etc. like other countries..
How many conviction though?
There’s no room to lock any of them up anyway, so what’s the point? They’re not afraid of getting arrested as most of them have been in and out since they were teens, and the ones that are employed usually aren’t legally so.
Only four people mentioned here were said to have been charged with the crimes they were accused of. Mass arrests are only good if they result in mass charges and convictions as that shows they were legitimate arrests.
Otherwise it’s just the police going in heavy-handed and uncontrolled which will lead to problems and people in those areas reacting even more negatively toward the Gardaí if they’re just arresting people for no reason.
Although it’s no wonder this is how the former RUC’s Drew Harris has decided to approach the issue, the RUC do have form for it.
The source is the Gardaí institution itself.
This is not journalism its state propaganda. Between the Gardaí and independent its extremely likely these figures that come without context are absolute bullshit.
If you were to believe these numbers, they show they are over staffed enough to still be playing war on drugs with people’s lives, oppression rather than policing.
509 arrests, 500 or which were done by abusing drug laws and so only 89 were related to drugs.
That’s 9 legitimate arrests. Well fucking done. The article goes on to repeat more bullshit figures. The article is proof of why policing has failed in Ireland, an overwhelming amount of their time is wasted on keeping the drug market lucrative for armed criminal gangs.
2% policing, 98% oppression and funding terrorists.
Wondwr if we hit a house with a tourist would we get more houses?
Ohhh Helen is clearly tough on crime people.
What muppet thought putting that out would change people’s minds.
This shit would be laughable if it wasn’t painful how ignorant they are, this broken windows shit for publicity is exactly what’s left communities to rot internationally.
Ah yes because I’m sure all those lads when they eventually get their sentence for 6 months after a year’s worth of legal ineptitude time for possession or shoplifting will be right and productive members of society that won’t plague the streets or network with harder criminals.
Recidivism rates for juvenile offenders is higher than that of prisons. Which is already a laughingstock for those involved in organised crime (some of which are guards obviously)….System working as intended I guess
Guess we’ll have to wait for the next circus of PR arrests producing career criminals after the next international scandal.