Is this a generally held view among *Irish people?
*I suppose I mean “Irish” as in those who might think they’re purer Irish than those in Northern Ireland.
Well they’re Northern Irish after all. A different nationality to citizens of the Republic of Ireland.
Anyone born on the Island is Irish. There are some that see themselves and British and that’s okay, the rest are as Irish as I am.
The only thing someone in the South could say to someone from the North is that they’re not a real Free Stater, and they should be proud of that.
I think highlights a massive identity crisis that has to be addressed before any reunification can be thought of.
One half see themselves as kind of British, the other kind of Irish, but no one ever seems to say they are Northern Irish. They are defined by their allegiances, not themselves.
I genuinely enjoy the hair-splitting in threads like this. It is actually quite entertaining. That is all.
This southerner thinks that any southerner that says that is a gobshite of the first order.
They are part of the UK same as the Welsh or Scots. I’m totally ok with Welsh being Welsh and Scots being Scots so I’m ok with Irish being Irish.
I come from Donegal and have lived in Derry and Belfast. Have encountered some awful attitudes in the South of the country. Obviously it’s often assumed I’m from the six counties because of my accent, but we’re probably seen as one and the same anyway (which we kind of are)
“You Northerners are always looking for something” from a middle aged man volunteering at an event in a community centre in County Clare.
Then you have the usual ignorant comments about the troubles etc. “Could they not just have tried protesting.”
It’s also not true. That state is clearly called “Northern IRELAND” hence its citizens are Irish.
It’s also true, they’re descendants are from the UK, sent here to try and crush gaelic culture
Its also a shite thing to say.
The people in the North and South of Ireland have grown up in two very different worlds. Two different countries sure. That we see each other differently is not a shock, but some Southerners need to catch themselves on and realise they aren’t the arbiters of Irishness.
If you were born and bred on the island of IRELAND, be it Northern IRELAND or the Republic of IRELAND then you’re IRISH. Pure and simple.
North, South, East or West, we’re all Irish.
Happens me frequently; both parents from “the south” but I was born and bred in Derry. Amount of abuse I got from my cousin’s for being a Brit. ( my retort is that they sold us out.)
You’d get it all the time at the GAA as well. Amount of times I had someone whenever playing someone across the border giving you dogs abuse for being from “Londonderry.” An organisation that promotes an All Ireland competition and promotion of our cultural and historic links.
Ironically then if you go to London, you’re seen as a Paddy.
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“Northerners“ are from the north of England.
Is this a generally held view among *Irish people?
*I suppose I mean “Irish” as in those who might think they’re purer Irish than those in Northern Ireland.
Well they’re Northern Irish after all. A different nationality to citizens of the Republic of Ireland.
Anyone born on the Island is Irish. There are some that see themselves and British and that’s okay, the rest are as Irish as I am.
The only thing someone in the South could say to someone from the North is that they’re not a real Free Stater, and they should be proud of that.
I think highlights a massive identity crisis that has to be addressed before any reunification can be thought of.
One half see themselves as kind of British, the other kind of Irish, but no one ever seems to say they are Northern Irish. They are defined by their allegiances, not themselves.
I genuinely enjoy the hair-splitting in threads like this. It is actually quite entertaining. That is all.
This southerner thinks that any southerner that says that is a gobshite of the first order.
They are part of the UK same as the Welsh or Scots. I’m totally ok with Welsh being Welsh and Scots being Scots so I’m ok with Irish being Irish.
I come from Donegal and have lived in Derry and Belfast. Have encountered some awful attitudes in the South of the country. Obviously it’s often assumed I’m from the six counties because of my accent, but we’re probably seen as one and the same anyway (which we kind of are)
“You Northerners are always looking for something” from a middle aged man volunteering at an event in a community centre in County Clare.
Then you have the usual ignorant comments about the troubles etc. “Could they not just have tried protesting.”
It’s also not true. That state is clearly called “Northern IRELAND” hence its citizens are Irish.
It’s also true, they’re descendants are from the UK, sent here to try and crush gaelic culture
Its also a shite thing to say.
The people in the North and South of Ireland have grown up in two very different worlds. Two different countries sure. That we see each other differently is not a shock, but some Southerners need to catch themselves on and realise they aren’t the arbiters of Irishness.
If you were born and bred on the island of IRELAND, be it Northern IRELAND or the Republic of IRELAND then you’re IRISH. Pure and simple.
North, South, East or West, we’re all Irish.
Happens me frequently; both parents from “the south” but I was born and bred in Derry. Amount of abuse I got from my cousin’s for being a Brit. ( my retort is that they sold us out.)
You’d get it all the time at the GAA as well. Amount of times I had someone whenever playing someone across the border giving you dogs abuse for being from “Londonderry.” An organisation that promotes an All Ireland competition and promotion of our cultural and historic links.
Ironically then if you go to London, you’re seen as a Paddy.