Interesting how this is being framed. An alternative viewpoint would be that we had far too many pubs in 2005.
So you’re saying the price gouging has had a negative effect?
€5 pints, Covid home drinking, streaming, cost of living . . . death by a 1,000 cuts
It will find it’s level, become a luxury activity, see also night clubs
How many of these rural pubs closing were publicans retiring where the pub was the family home too? That was the case for the two that closed in my village.
Oh no! Won’t somebody think of the children? How are kids supposed to learn that binge-drinking is a totally normal and healthy activity and that socialising without hard drugs is taboo?
Like isn’t MUP all about that actually?
Does that mean the license transfers over to a shop or restaurant?
We probably had too many pubs anyway.
Most rural towns have half the number of pubs than 20 years ago.
Banning drink driving killed the rural pub trade and isolated 1000’s of elderly farmers from any social activity.
I have 2 great uncles that were bachelor farmers in the River Suck Valley and their life consisted of getting up at 5am, farming all day, dinner & news at 6pm then drive 3 miles to the pub for a game of cards and 2 or 3 pints then drive home and go to bed.
That way of life doesn’t exist any more. Those poor men sit at home staring at the 4 walls alone in the evenings.
Only sports directs and coffee chains have the margins needed to cover rent + council rates
The number of pubs was declining each year from 2014 to 2019. I’m sure Covid and cost of living crisis has accelerated that, but there’s clearly been a large cultural change since 2005.
It can’t all be down to economics if pubs were still closing in the post-recession recovery and before rent and cost of living became such an issue.
I haven’t been to a pub in a couple of years – the cost these days is prohibitive. Also, I mostly meet my mates in playgrounds on a Sunday morning where our kids all play together… Drinking culture in Ireland is just changing.
This doesn’t seem like a bad thing. All it shows is the market for the pub is shifting elsewhere. Maybe people like all those coffee shops that are popping up everywhere.
It’s a cultural shift. Younger people don’t drink like the generations before them.
Also pubs were changing hands for millions, so have to raise prices to pay for the pub.
The guy down the road (who owns his pub) puts his prices up to match everyone else.
So the prices are half necessity (cost of pub) & half is gouging (if he’s selling at that price so am I)
good. it shouldnt be the only social event the irish engage in
People drink significantly less than they did in the early 2000’s, which is a good thing.
This is a good thing. We had way too many pubs and still have a very bad relationship with alcohol. Less pubs is good.
I love my local but they put pints up to 7.30 so we’ve stopped going and just drink in each other’s houses now 🤷♀️ just can’t afford it
It’s fucking price. Plain and simple. Two vodka and coke in disndat off dame lane in Dublin, 19€. A 19€ fuck you.
A huge percentage of pubs in Ireland were small country pubs being run as a hobby by the owner. Owned for decades by the same family and just pulling pints for locals a few nights a week. Usually attached to the family home and probably just about covering overheads.
Time has passed. As I drive by the long closed pub in the village I came from in the West I remember all the people who used to go there and can picture them all sitting at the bar chatting. They have all passed away now and their pub is gone with them.
“we all partied”
Good, we had way too many, and they’re price gouging now so fuck em, bag of cans and a massive telly fuck you’re 8e pint
When I could get a pint for 4:90, I’d go once a week to the local but now it’s closer to €6. The 3 pints I’d drink over 2 hours is now 2 pints & a that point I kinda just stopped going preferring 3 or 4 craft beers at a friends house.
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And almost 200,000 coffee shops have opened,
Interesting how this is being framed. An alternative viewpoint would be that we had far too many pubs in 2005.
So you’re saying the price gouging has had a negative effect?
€5 pints, Covid home drinking, streaming, cost of living . . . death by a 1,000 cuts
It will find it’s level, become a luxury activity, see also night clubs
How many of these rural pubs closing were publicans retiring where the pub was the family home too? That was the case for the two that closed in my village.
Oh no! Won’t somebody think of the children? How are kids supposed to learn that binge-drinking is a totally normal and healthy activity and that socialising without hard drugs is taboo?
Like isn’t MUP all about that actually?
Does that mean the license transfers over to a shop or restaurant?
We probably had too many pubs anyway.
Most rural towns have half the number of pubs than 20 years ago.
Banning drink driving killed the rural pub trade and isolated 1000’s of elderly farmers from any social activity.
I have 2 great uncles that were bachelor farmers in the River Suck Valley and their life consisted of getting up at 5am, farming all day, dinner & news at 6pm then drive 3 miles to the pub for a game of cards and 2 or 3 pints then drive home and go to bed.
That way of life doesn’t exist any more. Those poor men sit at home staring at the 4 walls alone in the evenings.
Only sports directs and coffee chains have the margins needed to cover rent + council rates
The number of pubs was declining each year from 2014 to 2019. I’m sure Covid and cost of living crisis has accelerated that, but there’s clearly been a large cultural change since 2005.
It can’t all be down to economics if pubs were still closing in the post-recession recovery and before rent and cost of living became such an issue.
I haven’t been to a pub in a couple of years – the cost these days is prohibitive. Also, I mostly meet my mates in playgrounds on a Sunday morning where our kids all play together… Drinking culture in Ireland is just changing.
This doesn’t seem like a bad thing. All it shows is the market for the pub is shifting elsewhere. Maybe people like all those coffee shops that are popping up everywhere.
It’s a cultural shift. Younger people don’t drink like the generations before them.
Also pubs were changing hands for millions, so have to raise prices to pay for the pub.
The guy down the road (who owns his pub) puts his prices up to match everyone else.
So the prices are half necessity (cost of pub) & half is gouging (if he’s selling at that price so am I)
good. it shouldnt be the only social event the irish engage in
People drink significantly less than they did in the early 2000’s, which is a good thing.
This is a good thing. We had way too many pubs and still have a very bad relationship with alcohol. Less pubs is good.
I love my local but they put pints up to 7.30 so we’ve stopped going and just drink in each other’s houses now 🤷♀️ just can’t afford it
It’s fucking price. Plain and simple. Two vodka and coke in disndat off dame lane in Dublin, 19€. A 19€ fuck you.
A huge percentage of pubs in Ireland were small country pubs being run as a hobby by the owner. Owned for decades by the same family and just pulling pints for locals a few nights a week. Usually attached to the family home and probably just about covering overheads.
Time has passed. As I drive by the long closed pub in the village I came from in the West I remember all the people who used to go there and can picture them all sitting at the bar chatting. They have all passed away now and their pub is gone with them.
“we all partied”
Good, we had way too many, and they’re price gouging now so fuck em, bag of cans and a massive telly fuck you’re 8e pint
When I could get a pint for 4:90, I’d go once a week to the local but now it’s closer to €6. The 3 pints I’d drink over 2 hours is now 2 pints & a that point I kinda just stopped going preferring 3 or 4 craft beers at a friends house.