“War does not proceed in a linear fashion. Defenders can hold for a long time and then suddenly break, allowing an attacker to make rapid gains before the defense solidifies further to the rear. The Ukrainians aim to generate exactly this effect — and there is reason to think they can. Ukraine’s offensive push is far from over. In fact, it is still in the early stages — just 10 weeks into what is likely to last at least four more months”
I understand the original need to hype things up, to keep morale and support high, but thats the wrong way of looking at it IMHO.
Thanks to Western support, the gap (technology, training!, etc) between Ukraine and Russia will only increase. The main advantage Russia has, is the amount of people they can / are willing to lose. A slow but steady (safer) counteroffensive is better than a rapid (aggressive/risky) one.
The progress may be a bit slower than expected but they are still making progress and I am confident that they will continue to make bigger gains. I have been totally taken aback by the Ukrainian military who’s soul mission is fighting for the freedom of their citizens and returning their territories stolen by Russian war criminals
Tokmak is not far from their current gains and is already at artillery range. If they can take Tokmak until the winter arrives, they’ll have a nice platform to lunch an attack to Melitopol or Berdiasnk.
Their offensive momentum in the Zaporijhia front has been gaining momentum and i think we might be surprised if they cut off Crimea sooner than expected.
This movement might draw vatniks to divert forces from the Dnipro and open chances for establishing a beach head.
I’m not military, so this is just hopium.
They’re attacking fortified positions without air superiority. It was never going to be fast. That said they are currently about to punch through the second line. Steady as she goes lads.
The fact that ‘critics’ exist in the first place is astounding to me.
“Hey, these people are not defending their very existence in quite the manner we hoped for, bah!”
Like, dude.What is wrong with you.
Do keep in mind Ukraine doesn’t need to stand on the shores of the Azov sea to cut off Russian logistics. They just need to have the main railways and roads within artillery range.
According to ISW, Ukraine has made strategically significant gains.
They’ve engaged their most elite assault brigades, Azov has also reengaged. Time will tell.
Also, apparently the Ukrainians are about 1-2km from the second line of defense which is supposedly less manned.
(Disclaimer: I cannot nor do not have the willpower to find my sources, so take what I’ve said with a grain of salt.)
Just like the last two major offensives… you will hear small and not that important news and puff a major success that shocks the world.
Everyone will forget about this slow grind to get the major brake through ready, and they will continue to bitch in the next offensive, or to be specific about how its slow.
THIS HAPPEND 2 TIMES ALLREADY!!! We have seen this is the first “Kherson offensive” that led to the victory in the Kharkiv region, and the second one that led to the liberation of Kherson itself.
Are people stupid or somet… actually why am I asking? Of course, they are stupid.
The main thing I find odd is the vatniks on Twitter who celebrate that they are losing land more slowly than western hype would expect I mean they’re still losing areas of control
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“War does not proceed in a linear fashion. Defenders can hold for a long time and then suddenly break, allowing an attacker to make rapid gains before the defense solidifies further to the rear. The Ukrainians aim to generate exactly this effect — and there is reason to think they can. Ukraine’s offensive push is far from over. In fact, it is still in the early stages — just 10 weeks into what is likely to last at least four more months”
I understand the original need to hype things up, to keep morale and support high, but thats the wrong way of looking at it IMHO.
Thanks to Western support, the gap (technology, training!, etc) between Ukraine and Russia will only increase. The main advantage Russia has, is the amount of people they can / are willing to lose. A slow but steady (safer) counteroffensive is better than a rapid (aggressive/risky) one.
The progress may be a bit slower than expected but they are still making progress and I am confident that they will continue to make bigger gains. I have been totally taken aback by the Ukrainian military who’s soul mission is fighting for the freedom of their citizens and returning their territories stolen by Russian war criminals
Tokmak is not far from their current gains and is already at artillery range. If they can take Tokmak until the winter arrives, they’ll have a nice platform to lunch an attack to Melitopol or Berdiasnk.
Their offensive momentum in the Zaporijhia front has been gaining momentum and i think we might be surprised if they cut off Crimea sooner than expected.
This movement might draw vatniks to divert forces from the Dnipro and open chances for establishing a beach head.
I’m not military, so this is just hopium.
They’re attacking fortified positions without air superiority. It was never going to be fast. That said they are currently about to punch through the second line. Steady as she goes lads.
The fact that ‘critics’ exist in the first place is astounding to me.
“Hey, these people are not defending their very existence in quite the manner we hoped for, bah!”
Like, dude.What is wrong with you.
Do keep in mind Ukraine doesn’t need to stand on the shores of the Azov sea to cut off Russian logistics. They just need to have the main railways and roads within artillery range.
According to ISW, Ukraine has made strategically significant gains.
They’ve engaged their most elite assault brigades, Azov has also reengaged. Time will tell.
Also, apparently the Ukrainians are about 1-2km from the second line of defense which is supposedly less manned.
(Disclaimer: I cannot nor do not have the willpower to find my sources, so take what I’ve said with a grain of salt.)
Just like the last two major offensives… you will hear small and not that important news and puff a major success that shocks the world.
Everyone will forget about this slow grind to get the major brake through ready, and they will continue to bitch in the next offensive, or to be specific about how its slow.
THIS HAPPEND 2 TIMES ALLREADY!!! We have seen this is the first “Kherson offensive” that led to the victory in the Kharkiv region, and the second one that led to the liberation of Kherson itself.
Are people stupid or somet… actually why am I asking? Of course, they are stupid.
The main thing I find odd is the vatniks on Twitter who celebrate that they are losing land more slowly than western hype would expect I mean they’re still losing areas of control