There’s a note on the change saying “good name change” as it gives too much credit to it calling it a dispute. I know people on this sub can be very dismissive of this but just curious to see what ye all think.
by Dylanduke199513
There’s a note on the change saying “good name change” as it gives too much credit to it calling it a dispute. I know people on this sub can be very dismissive of this but just curious to see what ye all think.
by Dylanduke199513
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Would you have the energy to play Wikipedia update ping poing with some zealot or wind up merchant.
It’s an article, I’d ignore it. Wikipedia also has an artcile on the Flying Spaghetti Monster so there’ s precedent for a bit of nonsense on the site. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster)
Am I the only one who’s not bothered in the slightest about someone from a different country calling it the British isles?
I think its an outdated term, only advocated for by those with rule Britannia mindsets.
If the second largest country in a “collective” of countries takes issue with the collective, maybe you should hear them out?
I’ve seen arguments that saying “Britain and Ireland” leave out some of the smaller islands in the archipelago – my question is in what context have you ever needed to refer to Ireland, Britain and the surrounding small islands as a collective? I’ve certainly never needed to.
Language has a huge affect on how we perceive things, and I feel the term “British Isles” has a big part to play in international people thinking Ireland is part the UK, as opposed to being unaware of our colonial past / independence movement. Its not like there’s not precedents for language evolving on account of geopolitics – people don’t say Southern Rhodesia or Bombay anymore.
I dispute that it’s a good name change
It is not a dispute. At an official level they are referred to as the British and Irish Isles by both concerned parties. What randomers on Reddit say is of no real significance.
British and Irish Isles is fine.
The ”These Islands” name doesn’t travel well and has zero relevance. ”IONA” or Islands Of North Atlantic is convuluted and I think there might already be an island called Iona.
This change doesn’t surprise me, and will likely not be reversed.
Wikipedia has long had a strong tradition in… not *anti* Irish exactly, but definitely doing-Ireland-no-favours. Any articles related to our economy will always emphasise heavily ‘leprechaun economics’, ‘tax haven’, etc. (and almost always involve a particular editor called *BritishFinance* IIRC). The talk page about Ireland itself is an education in pedantry, just to keep the term ‘British Isles’ in the opening paragraphs, despite multiple and repeated appeals by neutral or Irish editors.
While many here will no doubt take a ‘who-cares’ attitude, many people *do* care and Wikipedia is referenced by people all over the world (now and in the future). The term in question is even officially refuted by both UK and Ireland jurisdictions.
Information should be accurate, correct, and without bias. In this instance Wikipedia shows consistent and heavy bias – which would make you wonder about how its editors affect other grey-area issues on that site.
It’s like watergategate
Ireland England Wales Scotland
WIES or Wies for short.
That’s what I’m calling it from now on. Done.