Half of western type democratic countries have death penalty and this media does not call out them.
So people will have a trial now before being defenastred?
The death penalty is an abomination that needs to be abolished yesterday everywhere, and that is true even in perfectly democratic societies with an independent judiciary and rule of law fully intact.
In Russia, by contrast, it’s just moving the state-sanctioned murders above board.
Polonium shortage?
There should be a death penalty for heinous crimes without any shadow of a doubt of culpability and crime.
Joseph II abolished the death penalty in the 18th century and people are still bringing it back today… It’s such a shame Joseph II had such a short reign, and I say that as a Czech who mostly hates the Habsburgs lol.
But they already have death penalty when they throw people from windows.
Pretty sure capital punishment was being practiced well after the middle ages by most of the world.
You can still find a nearly even split in opinions on the matter in places like France today if polling can be believed.
Death penatly should be restored in entire Europe. There is no sense in keeping degenerate monsters that are unable to fix in cells for ever. I would also impose death penatly for corruption as a crime of selfishnes
If they bring back the death penalty, will they be removed from the Council of Europe? From what I understand, it goes against the ECHR.
Middle ages? I am personally not a big fan of capital punishment, however many developed countries continue to use it, and a case can easily be made that it is an appropriate penalty for first degree murder and up when there is no possibility of mistaken identity. And that is coming from someone generally very critical of Russian government and their policies.
Welcome to America. Sadly we still have it.
Greetings from Russia. We never **stopped** talking about the death penalty, as it is part of a greater philosophical discussion on justice and rule of law.
In his book he reviews the specific process and legal basis under which the moratorium on death penalty is applied in Russia and what legal collisions arise from that.
He ends the chapter with these words:
> Очень надеюсь, что сделанный нашей страной отход от права в сторону тех нравственных и религиозных воззрений, которые стоят на позициях принципиального отказа от смертной казни, пройдет для России успешно
In English:
> I really hope that the departure from the law made by our country towards those moral and religious views that stand on the positions of a principled renunciation of the death penalty will be successful for Russia.
The Middle Ages? France abolished the death penalty in the 1980s, and it’s in the civilised Western Europe. I’m no Russian fanboy, but this rhetoric that Russia is somehow uniquely “medieval” is utterly absurd.
What Middle Ages has to do with death penalty specifically? It is a thing in all the history, including the modern one
Just imagine somebody kills all of your family (hypothetically, I don’t wish that anyone) and goes to jail with free rent, food and healthcare. Would you like it woke progressives?
Everyday Russia is falling deeper and deeper into the shit hole it dug for itself. And at this point I think it may never climb out of it.
What an incredibly dumb post… You never cease to amaze r/Europe…
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Half of western type democratic countries have death penalty and this media does not call out them.
So people will have a trial now before being defenastred?
The death penalty is an abomination that needs to be abolished yesterday everywhere, and that is true even in perfectly democratic societies with an independent judiciary and rule of law fully intact.
In Russia, by contrast, it’s just moving the state-sanctioned murders above board.
Polonium shortage?
There should be a death penalty for heinous crimes without any shadow of a doubt of culpability and crime.
Joseph II abolished the death penalty in the 18th century and people are still bringing it back today… It’s such a shame Joseph II had such a short reign, and I say that as a Czech who mostly hates the Habsburgs lol.
But they already have death penalty when they throw people from windows.
Pretty sure capital punishment was being practiced well after the middle ages by most of the world.
You can still find a nearly even split in opinions on the matter in places like France today if polling can be believed.
Death penatly should be restored in entire Europe. There is no sense in keeping degenerate monsters that are unable to fix in cells for ever. I would also impose death penatly for corruption as a crime of selfishnes
If they bring back the death penalty, will they be removed from the Council of Europe? From what I understand, it goes against the ECHR.
Middle ages? I am personally not a big fan of capital punishment, however many developed countries continue to use it, and a case can easily be made that it is an appropriate penalty for first degree murder and up when there is no possibility of mistaken identity. And that is coming from someone generally very critical of Russian government and their policies.
Welcome to America. Sadly we still have it.
Greetings from Russia. We never **stopped** talking about the death penalty, as it is part of a greater philosophical discussion on justice and rule of law.
In his book he reviews the specific process and legal basis under which the moratorium on death penalty is applied in Russia and what legal collisions arise from that.
He ends the chapter with these words:
> Очень надеюсь, что сделанный нашей страной отход от права в сторону тех нравственных и религиозных воззрений, которые стоят на позициях принципиального отказа от смертной казни, пройдет для России успешно
In English:
> I really hope that the departure from the law made by our country towards those moral and religious views that stand on the positions of a principled renunciation of the death penalty will be successful for Russia.
Source is available here (in russian) the passage is on page 81
[CONSTITUTIONAL JUSTICE:
PROCEDURE AND MEANING by V.D. Zorkin 2021](http://www.ksrf.ru/ru/News/Speech/Documents/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%83%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B5.pdf)
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Middle Ages? America still has it
The Middle Ages? France abolished the death penalty in the 1980s, and it’s in the civilised Western Europe. I’m no Russian fanboy, but this rhetoric that Russia is somehow uniquely “medieval” is utterly absurd.
What Middle Ages has to do with death penalty specifically? It is a thing in all the history, including the modern one
Just imagine somebody kills all of your family (hypothetically, I don’t wish that anyone) and goes to jail with free rent, food and healthcare. Would you like it woke progressives?
Everyday Russia is falling deeper and deeper into the shit hole it dug for itself. And at this point I think it may never climb out of it.
What an incredibly dumb post… You never cease to amaze r/Europe…