Bertie Ahern says young people should educate themselves on ‘ferocious trauma’ of the Troubles, in wake of Wolfe Tones gig at Electric Picnic
by nitro1234561
Bertie Ahern says young people should educate themselves on ‘ferocious trauma’ of the Troubles, in wake of Wolfe Tones gig at Electric Picnic
by nitro1234561
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Newstalk should be really ashamed for trying to rehabilitate that chancers image.
Young people should also educate themselves on the professional grifter Bertie Ahern as well.
Bertie would be more in his line to educate himself on truth telling and bank accounts.
All of the outraged media commentary seems to think that Electric Picnic has a strict under 18s only policy.
I saw plenty of people of ALL ages at that specific set
Stop trying to make Bertie Ahern happen
How dare they try to listen to music at a music festival, performed by a musician hired by the same music festival!
Meanwhile the world is on fire… but don’t pay attention to that. Focus on these disgraceful children singing along to songs we have very recently decided to be too offensive to listen to even though we’ve all been listening to them for decades
Ahern said “it beholds us to try to explain to them the facts of what happened during the troubles. I would rather people see that story”
But don’t ask him to explain what happened in the [Mahon tribunal](https://twitter.com/dw_conflictzone/status/987286325031243776?t=ZEXlaYtH5iX8-1Shl0MraQ&s=19)
Fuck off Bertie.
When did the Wolfe tones become public enemy number 1? It’s official, we’ve little to be complaining about.
Bertie Ahern should tell his daughter to stop calling herself a forklift driver because she went and bought a license the obnoxious little spoilt bitch with her fucking daddy so dodgy he’s constantly nervous of being found out. The last time I seen someone so afraid to be exposed for some shady shit I was watching TCAP. Now fuck off Bertie and don’t utter your stupid opinions on things that never happened. Majority of people there were influencers and are so uneducated that they thought “the troubles” was when people wouldn’t stop buying toilet paper when covid hit. You big pasty bin bag full of shit. Bertie Ahern is what sudocrem looks like in human form.
why didn’t he start educating people then when the line up was announced?
lets all get on the bandwagon. i dont think anyone is in any doubt about what went on during the troubles and nobody in attendance condones the killing of innocent people by any side. but we were taught our history in school, the went went way back before the troubles and young people are proud of what people overcame. so to say everyone there needs education on the troubles because they united to sing a some songs that may remind them of irelands long history and struggle is a joke.
Fuck right off Bertie you gigantic cunt.
Britain, unionism and the Church of Ireland could apply that advice to the duration of their existence.
Bertie trying to be popular again for the presidency.
Fuck off you gigantic turkey nosed cunt.
Jaysus the Irish media are going full 1984 over this today.
I agree young people(and older people) should educate themselves about the troubles and how it was reported on in Irish media. What journalists and irish government advisors were saying and writing. How innocent people were murdered by paramilitaries and british state forces, how many atrocities were covered up and lied about for decades.
People should educate themselves about section 31. People should educate themselves about internment. People should educate themselves about the gerrymandering and discrimination against catholics. People should educate themselves about the violence against innocent people, all of it not just the IRA acts that the media highlights while ignoring or downplaying violence committed by loyalist paramilitaries and british state forces.
The Wolfe Tones may seem like a harmless band of old men but they are in fact a gateway to other more revolutionary bands like Rage Against the Machine, and of course Gil Scott Heron. You don’t want the youth to have a fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy or be complaining about Whitey on the Moon.
A festival in Stradbally and a carnival of reaction in Dublin.
Bertie Ahern should never be seen or heard from again,
Gives me real “Young people should think twice before ‘raging against the machine’ because machines can be very dangerous if not used correctly” vibes
Like it or not, for all his many many MANY faults, Bertie is on the right side of this.
There’s simply no debating someone so closely involved in the peace process might just be in a better position to judge things more than your average festival goer.
Seems like a lot of people didn’t even bother reading the article either.
It’s funny how the outrage over sky news suggesting education turns into a slightly different reaction when people like Joe Brolly and actual architechts of the GFA suggest the same thing
Bertie is so smart he didn’t have a bank acc when he was minister for finance
Bertie Ahern quite literally has blood on his hands.
Bertie needs to be locked on a room with the keys thrown away.
The fact this bollox rears his head every so often sickens my hole.
Also the wolf tones are not entirely trouble focused, most of their songs are general rebel songs and a lot of them are about the IRA are are allowed to celebrate.
It is young people enjoying themselves that really bothers people.
Bertie far from the ideal person to be saying it (comments in this sub proving that point, the scumbag messenger is negatively affecting the deliverance of a correct message) but let’s be honest with ourselves. He’s not wrong. Of course people who didn’t live through the war are completely unsensitive.
We don’t need the fucking ra. The GFA seen to that.
Tiocfaidh ár lá. Fucking soon I should think too. By “Tiocfaidh ár lá” I don’t mean by taking up arms again.
By a fair, peaceful referendum. No more blood needs to be spilt, green or orange.
How actually has this become even a slight scandal?
Berty should follow the advice he gave to people who were concerned about the economy and just ~~off himself~~ fuck off
I don’t agree with Bertie on many things but he is right on this one.
Younger folk think they are sticking it to the man or establishment by singing odes to the PIRA, as it annoys said establishment figures but they do so from a place of ignorance.
There are lots of ways to stick it to the man without having to resort to glorifying the innocent murders of women and children.
We’re still working through the ferocious trauma of Berties time as taoiseach
Young people should educate themselves on the “ferocious trauma” of the last recession, which Bertie Ahern played a massive part in making it as bad as it was.
People from Bertie’s generation saw the troubles through the lens of a heavily censured media environment at a time when communication channels were far more limited. Something I never see these people challenge in any inquisitive way.
I think the media and political elite have misinterpreted the rise of SF as a purely economic response (and as such have been constant with condensing advice that the young inform themselves of horrors) and missed the wood for the trees; there’s been a genuine revival in republicanism in the new generation that is not entirely synonymous with SF.
In many ways they did it to themselves as well. Phrases like ‘the brits’ were no where near as commonplace in the last 2 decades until the adults in the room set started reviving such language when ruminating over Brexit. This definitely played at least a small part in renormalising nationalism in the mainstream.