Can we get her to replace Starmer as the leader? There are Tory backbenchers who’re doing a better job as Labour leader than he is
China is a one party state. We’re a two party state. So yes they’ll get their turn despite having done nothing to deserve it.
What about the majority of people who are happy with their zero hour contracts?
This would singlehandedly make me vote Labour, if i had any confidence it’d actually happen. It won’t, too many people make too much money with the system as is.
Great. Loads of people are now unable to work. Well done.
I find the problem with zero hours contract is they work for some people however it is companies abusing them as a lot of companies expect exclusivity. Which is ridiculous.
They should change the law that says you can not demand people are available on zero hours contract.
I did one a while ago for the NHS at a vaccination centre. When I turned down the first two shifts offered they sent me a email saying if I turned down a third I would be black listed for 6 months.
That is what is wrong with them. Zero hour contracts need to work for both parties rather than just the employer
When I worked in carework there was a huge amount of Africans on zero hours. There is always shifts to pick up and it meant that if they wanted to go home for 4 weeks at a time they could do. They are not bad contracts for every industry.
I find companies have already skirted around this. Instead you have 8 hour contracts (broken into something stupid like 2 hours for 4 days) with the opportunity (hint: only way to get full time hours) for overtime.
I’m not aware but do we have laws that say you can’t do more than half your hours as overtime or something to stop this kind of thing?
This feels like a sensible move but I’d be worried how many jobs and people it’ll displace initially, before businesses find their feet in what’ll be a new world of managing these sorts of part time roles.
This is a bit of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Ban abuse of zero hour contracts, put restrictions on them, by all means, but they have their place and many people like being on them (including myself a few years back)
This stinks of a broken manifesto promise. Would love to see it though
Employers abuse the system with low hours contracts as well, eg. 4/8/12 hours where you actually work more shifts than contracted. The thing is that after so long you would be entitled to make those hours contractual so they make sure to rota a week of less hours in between to game the system.
This makes it harder for the employee to schedule around second jobs, accrue and book annual leave etc.
I would almost say 0 hours are better because at least you can leave at any time, the fundamental problem is employers exploiting their staff to maximize profit
shops arent going to start handing out hours if we get rid on zero hours now. theyll just go all in on self service tills and sack people
Does it mean they will scrap Sunak’s IR35 changes, which are de facto zero hour contracts on steroids? (Workers don’t have any rights – no minimum wage, no equal pay etc as opposed to zero hour contract workers).
Otherwise all it will do companies will start hiring on “inside IR35” contracts and contrary to popular belief, workers will not have to setup a limited company.
Wishy washy flip flop kid starver surely won’t tolerate any real labour policies within his ‘labour” party.
Ridiculous policy. Most people on them are happy.
Nonetheless – give people the right to convert to guaranteed hours after X weeks (12) based on a rolling 12 week average of hours worked.
That way those who need stability can get it.
Is this just posturing? Are they really committed to doing it, or are they going to ‘look into it’ when they get in?
The trouble is politicians always find a way to u-turn or water down what they promised.
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Can we get her to replace Starmer as the leader? There are Tory backbenchers who’re doing a better job as Labour leader than he is
China is a one party state. We’re a two party state. So yes they’ll get their turn despite having done nothing to deserve it.
What about the majority of people who are happy with their zero hour contracts?
This would singlehandedly make me vote Labour, if i had any confidence it’d actually happen. It won’t, too many people make too much money with the system as is.
Great. Loads of people are now unable to work. Well done.
I find the problem with zero hours contract is they work for some people however it is companies abusing them as a lot of companies expect exclusivity. Which is ridiculous.
They should change the law that says you can not demand people are available on zero hours contract.
I did one a while ago for the NHS at a vaccination centre. When I turned down the first two shifts offered they sent me a email saying if I turned down a third I would be black listed for 6 months.
That is what is wrong with them. Zero hour contracts need to work for both parties rather than just the employer
When I worked in carework there was a huge amount of Africans on zero hours. There is always shifts to pick up and it meant that if they wanted to go home for 4 weeks at a time they could do. They are not bad contracts for every industry.
I find companies have already skirted around this. Instead you have 8 hour contracts (broken into something stupid like 2 hours for 4 days) with the opportunity (hint: only way to get full time hours) for overtime.
I’m not aware but do we have laws that say you can’t do more than half your hours as overtime or something to stop this kind of thing?
This feels like a sensible move but I’d be worried how many jobs and people it’ll displace initially, before businesses find their feet in what’ll be a new world of managing these sorts of part time roles.
This is a bit of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Ban abuse of zero hour contracts, put restrictions on them, by all means, but they have their place and many people like being on them (including myself a few years back)
This stinks of a broken manifesto promise. Would love to see it though
Employers abuse the system with low hours contracts as well, eg. 4/8/12 hours where you actually work more shifts than contracted. The thing is that after so long you would be entitled to make those hours contractual so they make sure to rota a week of less hours in between to game the system.
This makes it harder for the employee to schedule around second jobs, accrue and book annual leave etc.
I would almost say 0 hours are better because at least you can leave at any time, the fundamental problem is employers exploiting their staff to maximize profit
shops arent going to start handing out hours if we get rid on zero hours now. theyll just go all in on self service tills and sack people
Does it mean they will scrap Sunak’s IR35 changes, which are de facto zero hour contracts on steroids? (Workers don’t have any rights – no minimum wage, no equal pay etc as opposed to zero hour contract workers).
Otherwise all it will do companies will start hiring on “inside IR35” contracts and contrary to popular belief, workers will not have to setup a limited company.
Wishy washy flip flop kid starver surely won’t tolerate any real labour policies within his ‘labour” party.
Ridiculous policy. Most people on them are happy.
Nonetheless – give people the right to convert to guaranteed hours after X weeks (12) based on a rolling 12 week average of hours worked.
That way those who need stability can get it.
Is this just posturing? Are they really committed to doing it, or are they going to ‘look into it’ when they get in?
The trouble is politicians always find a way to u-turn or water down what they promised.