This is ridiculous. The Americans exclude our companies from their procurement contracts and this politician is advocating for unfair competition at the detriment of Europe. I wonder how much lobbying money is behind this.
Non.
The USA is no friend of Europe.
The french are right on this one
Tbf if that was to happen, most likely nothing will get done as the doctrinal and strategic goals of almost, if not all, European armies differ from those of the US. Most programs have a high probability to end up like the XM-803 program or the Leopard II prototype vs Prototype Abrams.
What is the point of supporting Ukraine against Russian hard imperialism when we continue to subject ourselves to American soft imperialism?
Europe must stand as an independent entity. Independent from Russia and China and independent from the United States.
I don’t know that deputy minister who said that but I guess it makes sense for Lithuania to be able to spend European Defence Fund money on tech that our army wants. And of course it’s logical that European countries that have proper military industry won’t even consider this idea. So that’s that.
If the west has such a hard on for China, as they clearly have and for a long time, why do they have to involve Taiwan? Or is Taiwan the last piece of the puzzle allowing for a credible reason the west can tout to the world, and Taiwan is also needed for providing the battleground? (Which obviously the west wants as far from its shores as possible).
Hell no!
The EDF is currently €8bn for the period 2021-2027. So it’s not that much.
As for national defense budgets there each country can obviously do as they please.
Its useless idea to begin with, US would never ever reciprocate europe for letting them in, and giving them such preferential access, EU MIC would never get same regulation for american markets, that are already dominated and over saturated by US corporations to begin with, meaning its one way deal only benefitial for the american MIC doing their best part in crisis/war profiteering out of vulnerable europe.
If anybody is wondering why US is spending money to purchase influence in Central/Eastern Europe.
How this goes the other way was best shown during KC-46 tanker procurement. Airbus was not able to even compete without partnering with US company and building a factory in US. After winning that procurement, the competition was just cancelled and criteria changed to ensure that Boeing wins.
More american interference, what could go wrong???
/s
Ah yes, lets give the US more market, more money while we continue to become even more dependent on them.
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This is ridiculous. The Americans exclude our companies from their procurement contracts and this politician is advocating for unfair competition at the detriment of Europe. I wonder how much lobbying money is behind this.
Non.
The USA is no friend of Europe.
The french are right on this one
Tbf if that was to happen, most likely nothing will get done as the doctrinal and strategic goals of almost, if not all, European armies differ from those of the US. Most programs have a high probability to end up like the XM-803 program or the Leopard II prototype vs Prototype Abrams.
What is the point of supporting Ukraine against Russian hard imperialism when we continue to subject ourselves to American soft imperialism?
Europe must stand as an independent entity. Independent from Russia and China and independent from the United States.
I don’t know that deputy minister who said that but I guess it makes sense for Lithuania to be able to spend European Defence Fund money on tech that our army wants. And of course it’s logical that European countries that have proper military industry won’t even consider this idea. So that’s that.
If the west has such a hard on for China, as they clearly have and for a long time, why do they have to involve Taiwan? Or is Taiwan the last piece of the puzzle allowing for a credible reason the west can tout to the world, and Taiwan is also needed for providing the battleground? (Which obviously the west wants as far from its shores as possible).
Hell no!
The EDF is currently €8bn for the period 2021-2027. So it’s not that much.
As for national defense budgets there each country can obviously do as they please.
Its useless idea to begin with, US would never ever reciprocate europe for letting them in, and giving them such preferential access, EU MIC would never get same regulation for american markets, that are already dominated and over saturated by US corporations to begin with, meaning its one way deal only benefitial for the american MIC doing their best part in crisis/war profiteering out of vulnerable europe.
If anybody is wondering why US is spending money to purchase influence in Central/Eastern Europe.
How this goes the other way was best shown during KC-46 tanker procurement. Airbus was not able to even compete without partnering with US company and building a factory in US. After winning that procurement, the competition was just cancelled and criteria changed to ensure that Boeing wins.
More american interference, what could go wrong???
/s
Ah yes, lets give the US more market, more money while we continue to become even more dependent on them.