So negotiations it is. I vote Ukraine gets its territory back, Russia gets Hungary as a consolidation and Orban goes to Den Haag in Putins stead.
I would respect these people more if they qualified the “peace” they mean.
‘Peace’ i.e let Russian child raping terrorists have the Ukranian territory.
You must be imbecil to want to give up part of something that belongs to your people. Trust me, we know the feeling.
It’s true. This counter offensive has gone badly we have to admit this. Russia have been flooding citizens into the regions they control. Even if they win them back they’d have to flush them out. Majority of Ukraine is well defended now. You’re only sending your men into the grinder at this stage. You won’t have much of a workforce or country after this. Big questions need to be asked are these areas really worth the lives of your men at this stage.
People dislike this but 100’s of Ukrainian men are being slaughtered every day and this will go on for years. For what really? Regions that were openly hostile to the rest of country for years. This war is giving WW1 vibes of pointlessness at this point. Sent over the trench to die for inches of land. They are defended now unlike the start of the war. What went on at the start doesn’t happen now. People so blood thirsty they don’t care about the well being of the Ukrainian men themselves.
Must be a translation error, but this sentence does not really make any sense to me. Can anyone explain what Orbán is talking about.
“The prime minister insisted that “Ukrainian grain is not really Ukrainian but a commercial product from land that the United States likely owned a long time ago”.
Grain from Ukraine being from previously owned USA territories??? USA never owned territory in the Ukrainian area, nor is it exporting grain via an uncertain trade route through Ukraine, so please explain what Orbán means by this?
Orban has no money, weapons, power either but he keeps talking
actually, Ukraine seeks peace from day one its just that they want to achieve that peace by kicking invaders out and not by giving them land
Damn, imagine how much the other guy must suck. Can’t even win a war against an enemy with no money and no weapons. They must be truly useless!
> Ukraine wouldn’t be able to fight this war if we didn’t give it weapons and a lot of money
> if we didn’t give it weapons
> we
Throw Orban out of EU.
there is no end to nonsense coming out from this asshole, ukraine i defending itself with what it got, he would like them to surrender to russian invaders as he is putin footlicker, hungary government is biggest disgrace in europe
Wonder how their corrupt shithole of a country would do if they were invaded by Russia. They’d just let themselves be annexed at day 1 and kiss putins dick.
You have no brain but seek submission
ukraine seeks peace, russias conditions for peace talks are just not concise enough, nor fulfillable.
>the west has to stop providing arms (essentially turn them defenseless)
>neutrality
>refusal to join NATO and EU
>recognition by Kyiv and the international community of new territorial realities (Putin denied holding territorial ambitions at the start of the war)
>Galuzin also said that Russia “will not tolerate the existence of an openly anti-Russian state” on its borders
>Not to forget regime change, demilitarization and denazification
​
The conditions imply total surrender, before peace talks might even begin.
The aggressor is always peace-loving; he would prefer to take over our country unopposed. Carl von Clausewitz
Ukraine should apologise to Mr Putin right now!
Sorry, my bad:
Ukraine should apologize to Mr Orban right now!
Oh my god, shut the fuck up you fat fuck. You are a national embarrassment. Anything you say is demonstrably wrong, and you are such a shitstain that I don’t even tell people I’m hungarian anymore when they ask me where I’m from, because I don’t have the time for all the disclaimers about how not all of us are associated with you you fucking runt.
If I had to bet on historical trends, I could look at your general position and bet against it with an above-average chance of winning, that’s how fucking out of touch you are. You should have drowned in the adriatic on vacation, at least you would have done one thing right.
Ukraine has no money? They fucking discivered new oil fields you fucking dumbass, their military industry is running at full speed and they are projected to displace russia as a weapons supplier to states that used to buy russian, they are better set up (for better or worse) than Hungary is.
No weapons? Motherfucker, we collectively have been sending them more hardware than the russians can ever hope to build and the support is only slated to increase. What the fuck are you talking about?
No power? They have more soft power with Western Europe and the US than your cunt mouth can ever dream of, you russian dicksuck.
This is true.
The moment the west gets bored, the 40% fall in Ukraines gdp will really bite
Least deranged russian apologist
Fuck off and die fatso
Mr. Orban is welcome to go and surrender his own country to Russia any time he so chooses.
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So negotiations it is. I vote Ukraine gets its territory back, Russia gets Hungary as a consolidation and Orban goes to Den Haag in Putins stead.
I would respect these people more if they qualified the “peace” they mean.
‘Peace’ i.e let Russian child raping terrorists have the Ukranian territory.
You must be imbecil to want to give up part of something that belongs to your people. Trust me, we know the feeling.
It’s true. This counter offensive has gone badly we have to admit this. Russia have been flooding citizens into the regions they control. Even if they win them back they’d have to flush them out. Majority of Ukraine is well defended now. You’re only sending your men into the grinder at this stage. You won’t have much of a workforce or country after this. Big questions need to be asked are these areas really worth the lives of your men at this stage.
People dislike this but 100’s of Ukrainian men are being slaughtered every day and this will go on for years. For what really? Regions that were openly hostile to the rest of country for years. This war is giving WW1 vibes of pointlessness at this point. Sent over the trench to die for inches of land. They are defended now unlike the start of the war. What went on at the start doesn’t happen now. People so blood thirsty they don’t care about the well being of the Ukrainian men themselves.
Must be a translation error, but this sentence does not really make any sense to me. Can anyone explain what Orbán is talking about.
“The prime minister insisted that “Ukrainian grain is not really Ukrainian but a commercial product from land that the United States likely owned a long time ago”.
Grain from Ukraine being from previously owned USA territories??? USA never owned territory in the Ukrainian area, nor is it exporting grain via an uncertain trade route through Ukraine, so please explain what Orbán means by this?
Orban has no money, weapons, power either but he keeps talking
actually, Ukraine seeks peace from day one its just that they want to achieve that peace by kicking invaders out and not by giving them land
Damn, imagine how much the other guy must suck. Can’t even win a war against an enemy with no money and no weapons. They must be truly useless!
> Ukraine wouldn’t be able to fight this war if we didn’t give it weapons and a lot of money
> if we didn’t give it weapons
> we
Throw Orban out of EU.
there is no end to nonsense coming out from this asshole, ukraine i defending itself with what it got, he would like them to surrender to russian invaders as he is putin footlicker, hungary government is biggest disgrace in europe
Wonder how their corrupt shithole of a country would do if they were invaded by Russia. They’d just let themselves be annexed at day 1 and kiss putins dick.
You have no brain but seek submission
ukraine seeks peace, russias conditions for peace talks are just not concise enough, nor fulfillable.
>the west has to stop providing arms (essentially turn them defenseless)
>neutrality
>refusal to join NATO and EU
>recognition by Kyiv and the international community of new territorial realities (Putin denied holding territorial ambitions at the start of the war)
>Galuzin also said that Russia “will not tolerate the existence of an openly anti-Russian state” on its borders
>Not to forget regime change, demilitarization and denazification
​
The conditions imply total surrender, before peace talks might even begin.
The aggressor is always peace-loving; he would prefer to take over our country unopposed. Carl von Clausewitz
Ukraine should apologise to Mr Putin right now!
Sorry, my bad:
Ukraine should apologize to Mr Orban right now!
Oh my god, shut the fuck up you fat fuck. You are a national embarrassment. Anything you say is demonstrably wrong, and you are such a shitstain that I don’t even tell people I’m hungarian anymore when they ask me where I’m from, because I don’t have the time for all the disclaimers about how not all of us are associated with you you fucking runt.
If I had to bet on historical trends, I could look at your general position and bet against it with an above-average chance of winning, that’s how fucking out of touch you are. You should have drowned in the adriatic on vacation, at least you would have done one thing right.
Ukraine has no money? They fucking discivered new oil fields you fucking dumbass, their military industry is running at full speed and they are projected to displace russia as a weapons supplier to states that used to buy russian, they are better set up (for better or worse) than Hungary is.
No weapons? Motherfucker, we collectively have been sending them more hardware than the russians can ever hope to build and the support is only slated to increase. What the fuck are you talking about?
No power? They have more soft power with Western Europe and the US than your cunt mouth can ever dream of, you russian dicksuck.
This is true.
The moment the west gets bored, the 40% fall in Ukraines gdp will really bite
Least deranged russian apologist
Fuck off and die fatso
Mr. Orban is welcome to go and surrender his own country to Russia any time he so chooses.