Belgium has two domestic languages… so yea that should explain it
That cannot be right for Hungary. A foreign language is mandatory in primary school, not sure from which grade these days. Usually english or german.
Have we gone to the shops?
I’m not sure about the data. English is mandatory in Germany… Later on you are obligated to study either french, Spanish or latin
slovenian values are definitly wrong, you learn 1 to 2 foreign languages in primary education
The Faroe Islands are included, but not Ireland or Iceland?
Generally speaking, schools should provide certificates
I don’t understand how this is 0.5 for the Netherlands. English is a mandatory part of the curriculum in primary education.
0.9 for Slovakia? Really?
English is mandatory (that’s 1 )
Second foreign language is mandatory – Spanish, German or Russian (that’s 2).
It should be atkeast 2.
Not really true for Romania, english is mandatory as a second language, and until the end of middle school, french is also taught. Starting from high-school (9th to 12th grade), some kids may keep studying french or spanish, portuguese, german etc., depending on their specialties.
Ah Ireland doesn’t exist but some shittier island does.
Funny how people immediatly jump to questioning the data here. Doesn’t matter if English is mandatory, it’s just primary education, so if English doesn’t start in the 4-5 first grades for everyone the value is going to be below 1. Many countries start language education at something like age 8-10 so after primary education.
In Aosta Valley [Italy] we have mandatory French + English
I thought it would be lower for france. Their hatred for other languages is notorious
Like in Poland ever since 4th Grade (10 years of age) you have to learn two languages (Most commonly English and German) – It continues until the end of Lyceum (9 Years of Education)
2 foreign languages are mandatory in Lithuania. The 3rd foreign language is optional. This data is BS.
Portugal 0.7? I’m pretty sure english is mandatory, I am confused.
This is Opposite Day?
What is “primary education”? Every country has different systems, please use the age range and not some arbitrary name.
English is mandatory in Norway, and we can choose Spanish, German, French, some places even Mandarin. It is literally impossible to be at 1 when English is mandatory, and 1-10th grade is mandatory, which is where we start with German/Spanish/French.
Is it calculated as per student of all students in all ages of primary education or what?
So if primary education is 6 years and first language is mandatory from, say, grade 3 and second is mandatory from grade 6. Then if all grades had 10 students then it would be 2 x 10 kids studying 0 languages, 3 x 10 kids studying 1 language and 1x 10 kids studying 2 languages. So we would get to an average of 0.85 like that?
The only way this is accurate for the Netherlands is if they don’t consider English as a foreign language.
Germany is a huge surprise to me. Even in the lowest school form they still teach english as a main subject, no?
Very unsure about this data. Slovenia has English mandatory in primary school and another language down the middle of primary school picking between Italian, Spanish, French and German. Only exception to English is if you are from the Hungarian or Italian minority, then you have Slovene as your primary foreign language and your native language instead of Slovene, but I think most of those pupils parnts still make them take English.
hm 2021, it’s in the middle of the on-going debate of whether to teach English in elementary school or not
When the time needed to get the qualification for higher education was reduced by 1 year, basically all schools also started teaching English from year 1. Now the time reduction was reverted because it was badly implemented, causing more stress for everyone, but there have also been studies centered around English from year 1.
The study found that students who started English lessons from year 5 only needed half a year to catch up to the same level of English of those students who started from year 1. However, the students who started English from year 1 were performing worse in maths and German than those who started English from year 5. Many elementary schools have stopped teaching English again or moved the starting year to year 3. Debate mostly started around 2018
And since the value for germany is declining after 2016 which would make no sense in normal circumstances; my guess would be migrants.
Shouldn’t the netherlands and Portugal be atleast a 1? Since both countries have english as an obligatory foreign language in primary school.
Even after reading the information about the stat, I still didn’t undertand most of it. Specially the unit of measurement, which was “Students enrolled, mobile students, entrants, graduates, teachers, euros.”
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Source Eurostat: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/EDUC_UOE_LANG03/default/table?lang=en
Belgium has two domestic languages… so yea that should explain it
That cannot be right for Hungary. A foreign language is mandatory in primary school, not sure from which grade these days. Usually english or german.
Have we gone to the shops?
I’m not sure about the data. English is mandatory in Germany… Later on you are obligated to study either french, Spanish or latin
slovenian values are definitly wrong, you learn 1 to 2 foreign languages in primary education
The Faroe Islands are included, but not Ireland or Iceland?
Generally speaking, schools should provide certificates
I don’t understand how this is 0.5 for the Netherlands. English is a mandatory part of the curriculum in primary education.
0.9 for Slovakia? Really?
English is mandatory (that’s 1 )
Second foreign language is mandatory – Spanish, German or Russian (that’s 2).
It should be atkeast 2.
Not really true for Romania, english is mandatory as a second language, and until the end of middle school, french is also taught. Starting from high-school (9th to 12th grade), some kids may keep studying french or spanish, portuguese, german etc., depending on their specialties.
Ah Ireland doesn’t exist but some shittier island does.
Funny how people immediatly jump to questioning the data here. Doesn’t matter if English is mandatory, it’s just primary education, so if English doesn’t start in the 4-5 first grades for everyone the value is going to be below 1. Many countries start language education at something like age 8-10 so after primary education.
In Aosta Valley [Italy] we have mandatory French + English
I thought it would be lower for france. Their hatred for other languages is notorious
Like in Poland ever since 4th Grade (10 years of age) you have to learn two languages (Most commonly English and German) – It continues until the end of Lyceum (9 Years of Education)
2 foreign languages are mandatory in Lithuania. The 3rd foreign language is optional. This data is BS.
Portugal 0.7? I’m pretty sure english is mandatory, I am confused.
This is Opposite Day?
What is “primary education”? Every country has different systems, please use the age range and not some arbitrary name.
English is mandatory in Norway, and we can choose Spanish, German, French, some places even Mandarin. It is literally impossible to be at 1 when English is mandatory, and 1-10th grade is mandatory, which is where we start with German/Spanish/French.
Is it calculated as per student of all students in all ages of primary education or what?
So if primary education is 6 years and first language is mandatory from, say, grade 3 and second is mandatory from grade 6. Then if all grades had 10 students then it would be 2 x 10 kids studying 0 languages, 3 x 10 kids studying 1 language and 1x 10 kids studying 2 languages. So we would get to an average of 0.85 like that?
The only way this is accurate for the Netherlands is if they don’t consider English as a foreign language.
Germany is a huge surprise to me. Even in the lowest school form they still teach english as a main subject, no?
Very unsure about this data. Slovenia has English mandatory in primary school and another language down the middle of primary school picking between Italian, Spanish, French and German. Only exception to English is if you are from the Hungarian or Italian minority, then you have Slovene as your primary foreign language and your native language instead of Slovene, but I think most of those pupils parnts still make them take English.
hm 2021, it’s in the middle of the on-going debate of whether to teach English in elementary school or not
When the time needed to get the qualification for higher education was reduced by 1 year, basically all schools also started teaching English from year 1. Now the time reduction was reverted because it was badly implemented, causing more stress for everyone, but there have also been studies centered around English from year 1.
The study found that students who started English lessons from year 5 only needed half a year to catch up to the same level of English of those students who started from year 1. However, the students who started English from year 1 were performing worse in maths and German than those who started English from year 5. Many elementary schools have stopped teaching English again or moved the starting year to year 3. Debate mostly started around 2018
I guess this might be the origin of the data: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/EDUC_UOE_LANG03/default/table?lang=en
And since the value for germany is declining after 2016 which would make no sense in normal circumstances; my guess would be migrants.
Shouldn’t the netherlands and Portugal be atleast a 1? Since both countries have english as an obligatory foreign language in primary school.
Even after reading the information about the stat, I still didn’t undertand most of it. Specially the unit of measurement, which was “Students enrolled, mobile students, entrants, graduates, teachers, euros.”