Christ they really are importing batshit American conspiracy into our politics
> The global concept of 15-minute cities is based on having shops, services and workplaces within a short walk or bicycle ride from people’s homes.
This is incredibly dangerous. I’m glad that the Tories are cracking down on things like accessible services.
Well they’d better teach me to drive and give me a free car, then. Otherwise I think I’m better off having everything within 15m walk
Absolutely mental. I heard this on the radio yesterday and spat out a mouthful of tea.
The tories are getting out of hand now; it’s unfathomable how low they’ve fallen.
15 minute cities as a concept is a fantastic initiative, and I for one welcome increased reliance on public transport…
The irony of everything going on right now is that the tories have been in governance for so long that all of the issues faced now are because of their own idiotic policy decisions.
I despair.
is this all underpinned by some hidden corporate agenda?
like, really. they can’t really be this daft can they?
The Transport Secretary for the UK is making nation-shaping decisions from a position of paranoid schizophrenic delusion.
This can only end well.
I’m glad they are tackling all of the serious issues! Canterbury is the epicenter for this noncence so I can only hope their next policy I’d to completely wall the place in! Other than for car users of course. We can’t have them being disgruntled.
Now excuse me while I throw away the scraps of my tax free meat into my ONE bin that’s nowhere near HS2 and paced proudly near a badly filled pot hole. I have freedom to enjoy!!!
/s
How in the actual fuck has this QAnon level conspiracy that 15 minute cities somehow meaning the government is going to steal your cars and shoot you if you try to go a mile from your house become a mainstream Tory talking point? The absolute brain-rot imported from the USA is utterly insane.
15 minute cities mean far more convenience for people who can’t or don’t want to drive and means clearer roads with less potholes and a more pleasant driving experience for people who do! It’s literally win/win/win for everyone but oil companies and yet it’s framed as some One World Government NWO WEF conspiracy madness.
Seriously, these pricks need to shut the fuck up with this unhinged rhetoric.
> ‘Sinister’
Ah, how evil having neighbourhood corner shops, schools that your kids walk to, parks nearby. 🙄
I’m tired of ill-thought out housing estates with endless cul-de-sacs where the only “amenity” nearby (if by car, cos walking through a mazy estate is time consuming isn’t great either) is an out-of-town supermarket, where no buses serve because the route is inconvenient to the company.
I live in an inner city area. Was built in the 1930s. Everything is 15-20 minutes walk at most, people can drive if they need it. The only thing further than that is the secondary school. Has a barber shop, used to have a dedicated post-office, used to have a dedicated butchers.
No one is banning cars or restricting what are you’re allowed to drive into.
So much for putting localism back into the heart of communities and liveable areas.
Traffic calming measures are there to direct traffic towards main roads that are more suited to carrying it, not letting boy racers zoom down some side street where kids would be playing, or having rat runs than streets that aren’t designed for that heavy traffic.
> “But what is different, what is sinister and what we shouldn’t tolerate is the idea that local councils can decide how often you go to the shops, and that they ration who uses the road and when, and they police it all with CCTV.”
???? What delusional world is he living in? Does he think everyone is getting a ration book? “Sorry. Not your designated shopping day”
The government have now started spreading loony conspiracy theories. Is this really how low we have gotten.
Can someone please explain to me how having services like shops, Dr’s offices, schools etc within a short walk from your doorstep is a bad thing?
What terrible things do they think are going to happen? Gates at the town boundaries to stop people from driving further and you can’t pass without your limited use “let me out of town please” card?
Are they worried about being banned from using their cars completely?
Are they stupid dickheads who think this is all “control by the guv’munt”?
Cos last I checked, none of that’s gonna happen. You can still use whatever mode of transport you choose and still go wherever you like. I thought this was more about making services easier to access by foot/saving a longer more expensive drive therefore reducing traffic on the big roads?
I mean, who wouldn’t want a city where you can **walk** to **everything that you need** within 15 minutes?
Sounds like bliss to me, but I’m not wedded to my car.
I’d read the article but the website seems to have had a stroke. Anyway – I can safely say without reading the article that he’s what we’d commonly call an absolute mentalist.
I did hear earlier that the reason for all this guff is it appeals to the Tory membership who are the ones who vote for the next leader. So it’s not about winning votes in a GE it’s about appearing the most crazy so the Tory faithful put them in charge post Sunak
Does any person not want everything within walking distance of them? Nobody actually *wants* to drive miles out the way to access basic essential services do they? Who the fuck is this pandering to? I want everything as close to me as possible…?!
I’m lucky enough to live somewhere that pretty much has always been a 15 minute, maybe 25 for some things, part of a city. I can’t understand why anyone could be opposed to it.
The problem where I am is that it’s so popular more and more of the available local shops and amenities are being forced out to build more housing.
Walking gross! I’d much rather be stuck in traffic 🙂
I haven’t heard his speech, but what are the actual arguments being made against 15 minute cities?
The cardboard cutout of state oppression in front of a giant wall of state surveillance and economic oppression.
I don’t get it.
I live on an old housing estate that basically fits the description of a 15 min city. It’s brilliant; I can just walk to the pub, drs, school – whatever. It’s a struggle to understand why people might be against it and why.
Only thing I can think of are house builders. If people demand all those things nearby then their tiny box estates in the middle of nowhere won’t be attractive unless they actually add local services (you know, the Drs surgery they put on the planning app but don’t bother with)
They are acting like this wasn’t just, you know, the way things used to be? In the ‘old England’ they love so much. You did have a local grocer, a butcher, a baker (although unfortunately not a candle stick maker), A community centre, and a GP that knew you by name. I grew up in a two up, two down terraced house. At the top of the street was a newsagents, and a mini grocery store. Round the corner, we had a fish and chip shop, and the local school. 5 minutes more on foot and you’d be at the GPs, or going the other direction you’d find the local playing field and play park. I visited recently and not one of those things still exists. The school is now expensive apartments in a gated community. It was horrible, like all the things that define a community no longer existed. And I was born in the 80s, I’m not harking back to some dewy eyed romanticism of the 1950s here!
It’s so disingenuous to present ‘15 minute cities’ as some attack on civil liberties. It just gives residents the options to not have to drive everywhere, and visit soulless out of town shopping centres whenever they need anything. It’s nothing to do with trapping people in one area and not allowing them out. And not one single politician thinks it is, they just know that stupid people will fall for their bullshit.
The Trumpification of our society continues.
Absolute bellends.
Adding this absurd nonsense to the the rolling back of green policies, I’m pretty confident that the stationery cupboards of fossil fuel companies have run strangely low in brown envelopes.
What the actual cock is wrong with people? How did politics devolve into an exercise of wrestling with half-minded, knuckle dragging, rock fucking cave people about how concepts like medicine and accessibility are actually good things and not international Jewish mind control conspiracies? Fuck me sideways
Oh yeah, it’s a fantastic idea that’s solely for our convenience and for the protection of our planet.
There’s no way this happy little concept has the potential to be abused or exploited and, even in the next lockdown, will be fantastic for us all.
There are NO other countries in the world who have tried this and have ended up with increased surveillance, restricted movement or more enforceable lockdowns.
Can’t wait for a Co-Op to open up down the road 😊
“Everyone must live at least 16 minutes from all shops and services in order to preserve freedom from authoritarianism!”
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Christ they really are importing batshit American conspiracy into our politics
> The global concept of 15-minute cities is based on having shops, services and workplaces within a short walk or bicycle ride from people’s homes.
This is incredibly dangerous. I’m glad that the Tories are cracking down on things like accessible services.
Well they’d better teach me to drive and give me a free car, then. Otherwise I think I’m better off having everything within 15m walk
Absolutely mental. I heard this on the radio yesterday and spat out a mouthful of tea.
The tories are getting out of hand now; it’s unfathomable how low they’ve fallen.
15 minute cities as a concept is a fantastic initiative, and I for one welcome increased reliance on public transport…
The irony of everything going on right now is that the tories have been in governance for so long that all of the issues faced now are because of their own idiotic policy decisions.
I despair.
is this all underpinned by some hidden corporate agenda?
like, really. they can’t really be this daft can they?
The Transport Secretary for the UK is making nation-shaping decisions from a position of paranoid schizophrenic delusion.
This can only end well.
I’m glad they are tackling all of the serious issues! Canterbury is the epicenter for this noncence so I can only hope their next policy I’d to completely wall the place in! Other than for car users of course. We can’t have them being disgruntled.
Now excuse me while I throw away the scraps of my tax free meat into my ONE bin that’s nowhere near HS2 and paced proudly near a badly filled pot hole. I have freedom to enjoy!!!
/s
How in the actual fuck has this QAnon level conspiracy that 15 minute cities somehow meaning the government is going to steal your cars and shoot you if you try to go a mile from your house become a mainstream Tory talking point? The absolute brain-rot imported from the USA is utterly insane.
15 minute cities mean far more convenience for people who can’t or don’t want to drive and means clearer roads with less potholes and a more pleasant driving experience for people who do! It’s literally win/win/win for everyone but oil companies and yet it’s framed as some One World Government NWO WEF conspiracy madness.
Seriously, these pricks need to shut the fuck up with this unhinged rhetoric.
> ‘Sinister’
Ah, how evil having neighbourhood corner shops, schools that your kids walk to, parks nearby. 🙄
I’m tired of ill-thought out housing estates with endless cul-de-sacs where the only “amenity” nearby (if by car, cos walking through a mazy estate is time consuming isn’t great either) is an out-of-town supermarket, where no buses serve because the route is inconvenient to the company.
I live in an inner city area. Was built in the 1930s. Everything is 15-20 minutes walk at most, people can drive if they need it. The only thing further than that is the secondary school. Has a barber shop, used to have a dedicated post-office, used to have a dedicated butchers.
No one is banning cars or restricting what are you’re allowed to drive into.
So much for putting localism back into the heart of communities and liveable areas.
Traffic calming measures are there to direct traffic towards main roads that are more suited to carrying it, not letting boy racers zoom down some side street where kids would be playing, or having rat runs than streets that aren’t designed for that heavy traffic.
> “But what is different, what is sinister and what we shouldn’t tolerate is the idea that local councils can decide how often you go to the shops, and that they ration who uses the road and when, and they police it all with CCTV.”
???? What delusional world is he living in? Does he think everyone is getting a ration book? “Sorry. Not your designated shopping day”
The government have now started spreading loony conspiracy theories. Is this really how low we have gotten.
Can someone please explain to me how having services like shops, Dr’s offices, schools etc within a short walk from your doorstep is a bad thing?
What terrible things do they think are going to happen? Gates at the town boundaries to stop people from driving further and you can’t pass without your limited use “let me out of town please” card?
Are they worried about being banned from using their cars completely?
Are they stupid dickheads who think this is all “control by the guv’munt”?
Cos last I checked, none of that’s gonna happen. You can still use whatever mode of transport you choose and still go wherever you like. I thought this was more about making services easier to access by foot/saving a longer more expensive drive therefore reducing traffic on the big roads?
I mean, who wouldn’t want a city where you can **walk** to **everything that you need** within 15 minutes?
Sounds like bliss to me, but I’m not wedded to my car.
I’d read the article but the website seems to have had a stroke. Anyway – I can safely say without reading the article that he’s what we’d commonly call an absolute mentalist.
I did hear earlier that the reason for all this guff is it appeals to the Tory membership who are the ones who vote for the next leader. So it’s not about winning votes in a GE it’s about appearing the most crazy so the Tory faithful put them in charge post Sunak
Does any person not want everything within walking distance of them? Nobody actually *wants* to drive miles out the way to access basic essential services do they? Who the fuck is this pandering to? I want everything as close to me as possible…?!
I’m lucky enough to live somewhere that pretty much has always been a 15 minute, maybe 25 for some things, part of a city. I can’t understand why anyone could be opposed to it.
The problem where I am is that it’s so popular more and more of the available local shops and amenities are being forced out to build more housing.
Walking gross! I’d much rather be stuck in traffic 🙂
I haven’t heard his speech, but what are the actual arguments being made against 15 minute cities?
The cardboard cutout of state oppression in front of a giant wall of state surveillance and economic oppression.
I don’t get it.
I live on an old housing estate that basically fits the description of a 15 min city. It’s brilliant; I can just walk to the pub, drs, school – whatever. It’s a struggle to understand why people might be against it and why.
Only thing I can think of are house builders. If people demand all those things nearby then their tiny box estates in the middle of nowhere won’t be attractive unless they actually add local services (you know, the Drs surgery they put on the planning app but don’t bother with)
They are acting like this wasn’t just, you know, the way things used to be? In the ‘old England’ they love so much. You did have a local grocer, a butcher, a baker (although unfortunately not a candle stick maker), A community centre, and a GP that knew you by name. I grew up in a two up, two down terraced house. At the top of the street was a newsagents, and a mini grocery store. Round the corner, we had a fish and chip shop, and the local school. 5 minutes more on foot and you’d be at the GPs, or going the other direction you’d find the local playing field and play park. I visited recently and not one of those things still exists. The school is now expensive apartments in a gated community. It was horrible, like all the things that define a community no longer existed. And I was born in the 80s, I’m not harking back to some dewy eyed romanticism of the 1950s here!
It’s so disingenuous to present ‘15 minute cities’ as some attack on civil liberties. It just gives residents the options to not have to drive everywhere, and visit soulless out of town shopping centres whenever they need anything. It’s nothing to do with trapping people in one area and not allowing them out. And not one single politician thinks it is, they just know that stupid people will fall for their bullshit.
The Trumpification of our society continues.
Absolute bellends.
Adding this absurd nonsense to the the rolling back of green policies, I’m pretty confident that the stationery cupboards of fossil fuel companies have run strangely low in brown envelopes.
What the actual cock is wrong with people? How did politics devolve into an exercise of wrestling with half-minded, knuckle dragging, rock fucking cave people about how concepts like medicine and accessibility are actually good things and not international Jewish mind control conspiracies? Fuck me sideways
Oh yeah, it’s a fantastic idea that’s solely for our convenience and for the protection of our planet.
There’s no way this happy little concept has the potential to be abused or exploited and, even in the next lockdown, will be fantastic for us all.
There are NO other countries in the world who have tried this and have ended up with increased surveillance, restricted movement or more enforceable lockdowns.
Can’t wait for a Co-Op to open up down the road 😊
“Everyone must live at least 16 minutes from all shops and services in order to preserve freedom from authoritarianism!”