If this ever came in, I and every other cyclist will ignore it.
Brilliant idea. What is next? A 5 km/h limit for pedestrians?
Sure most cyclists don’t have a speedometer on the bike. How is this even remotely a good idea.
“We want more affordable housing and Garda to tackle serious crimes that have gotten out of control the last few years (or decades)”
“*Cyclists! Slow the fuck down*”
15km/h is sedate for a cyclist, even the most novice cyclist could maintain that speed for a good chunk of time, asking experienced cyclists to limit themselves to that speed is just asking for the laws to be ignored or the greenways to be ignored.
I don’t really see what the issue is that this solves. If they’re worried about pedestrians then they should be segregating pedestrians and cyclists along these routes. Something as simple as a painted line to separate cycle track from footpath is enough and will be obeyed by the cyclists
Set speed limits is a stupid, unenforceable plan.
We already have laws about cycling dangerously, these should just apply to any cyclist causing a danger to pedestrians, while cyclists on an otherwise empty greenway should be unimpeded. Though even this would be hard to enforce unless they’re planning on having cameras on every inch of the green way or pedestrians start recording their walks.
I see we’re tackling the real problems in society today.
Byelaws mean nothing if they can’t identify a cyclist…… this is dumb
Amazing how quickly cyclists change their tune when they aren’t the vulnerable victim anymore.
When other greenway users could the ones injured by cyclists speed or reckless behavour? Suddenly it’s nothing but “this will be ignored” and “this won’t be enforced” and “what a stupid rule” and “tax payer money well spent”
I think there’s a pattern emerging here.
Yeah I’m sure they will enforce it just like they enforce cyclists breaking lights.
How about if there is a cycle lane the fucking cyclist need to use it. So sick of having to get around cyclists on the road when the cycle lane is empty
dumbest shit ever. just more nanny state crap
That means every bicycle has to have a means of monitoring how fast they’re going.
Ah yes, because bikes are soo dangerous. /s
There will be runners running along side cyclists at the same speed if not faster.. of all the places where we need stricter laws.. wtf
Not worth the time it would take to implement. Money should be spent elsewhere.
Do we have a bunch of serious injuries from cyclists on pathways that warrant this?
So far my problem is that some kids are speeding on theirs motorbikes by the grand canal. I don’t feel comfortable when such a kid is playing chicken with me. He is going like 100 km/h, and I am sweating… My imagination is showing me what would happen. Not too nice, I must say.
You don’t need a speed limit, just put up a sign on the greenway applying to everyone saying “don’t be a dick”
Totally unenforceable and pointless. The guards don’t have the numbers, resources or time to police the roads nevermind cyclists. Next they’ll announce penalty points for not wearing a seat belt on a magic carpet.
Obviously this is dumb from an enforcement point of view. But also how could these rules ever hold up in court? Cyclists aren’t required to have a speedometer (and most cyclists don’t). You can’t criminalise something if people have no reasonable way to know which side of the law they’re on. This would be even more opaque than blood alcohol limits.
I run faster than 15 km/h lol. Not even exaggerating.
When I’m out for a run, I’d have to overtake people on bikes. That’s kinda ridiculous.
That’s stupid. I was multiple times on a Mayo Greenway. Never there was an issue. Pedestrians with dogs, cyclists, families. Everyone was just enjoying the outdoors.
I have a very stupid idea. We already have laws about dangerous driving. Why not enforce them? I don’t think reducing the speed limits to absurd levels will change behaviour of a kid riding stolen motorbike at 100km/h without a helmet in a centre of a town. Or drunken car boy doing 150+ on Wild Atlantic Way. The only beneficient of those laws are road sign manufacturers. It won’t prevent a single fatal accident (go through all fatal accidents and their causes – I tried). It won’t prevent a 60 yo driving straight through the roundabout, “because it wasn’t here 5 years ago and I’m just used to drive straight here” (real situation near our house, when the guy hit the rear end of my wife’s car on roundabout). It also won’t prevent 20 something woman that went off road because she had to immediately respond to a text.
But sure, easiest way is to drop some road signs, notice they did nothing and 2 years later just admit they did what they could.
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Enforced how?
If this ever came in, I and every other cyclist will ignore it.
Brilliant idea. What is next? A 5 km/h limit for pedestrians?
Sure most cyclists don’t have a speedometer on the bike. How is this even remotely a good idea.
“We want more affordable housing and Garda to tackle serious crimes that have gotten out of control the last few years (or decades)”
“*Cyclists! Slow the fuck down*”
15km/h is sedate for a cyclist, even the most novice cyclist could maintain that speed for a good chunk of time, asking experienced cyclists to limit themselves to that speed is just asking for the laws to be ignored or the greenways to be ignored.
I don’t really see what the issue is that this solves. If they’re worried about pedestrians then they should be segregating pedestrians and cyclists along these routes. Something as simple as a painted line to separate cycle track from footpath is enough and will be obeyed by the cyclists
Set speed limits is a stupid, unenforceable plan.
We already have laws about cycling dangerously, these should just apply to any cyclist causing a danger to pedestrians, while cyclists on an otherwise empty greenway should be unimpeded. Though even this would be hard to enforce unless they’re planning on having cameras on every inch of the green way or pedestrians start recording their walks.
I see we’re tackling the real problems in society today.
Reading the summary on [their site](https://www.waterwaysireland.org/Pages/Public-Consultation-on-Draft-Byelaws.aspx), it strikes me that this is make-work bullshit by WWI. As a side note, who in their right mind publishes documents in *.docx format*? Are we in 2001?
Anti cyclist policy disguised as “safety”.
Tax money well spent 👏
Byelaws mean nothing if they can’t identify a cyclist…… this is dumb
Amazing how quickly cyclists change their tune when they aren’t the vulnerable victim anymore.
When other greenway users could the ones injured by cyclists speed or reckless behavour? Suddenly it’s nothing but “this will be ignored” and “this won’t be enforced” and “what a stupid rule” and “tax payer money well spent”
I think there’s a pattern emerging here.
Yeah I’m sure they will enforce it just like they enforce cyclists breaking lights.
How about if there is a cycle lane the fucking cyclist need to use it. So sick of having to get around cyclists on the road when the cycle lane is empty
dumbest shit ever. just more nanny state crap
That means every bicycle has to have a means of monitoring how fast they’re going.
Ah yes, because bikes are soo dangerous. /s
There will be runners running along side cyclists at the same speed if not faster.. of all the places where we need stricter laws.. wtf
Not worth the time it would take to implement. Money should be spent elsewhere.
Do we have a bunch of serious injuries from cyclists on pathways that warrant this?
So far my problem is that some kids are speeding on theirs motorbikes by the grand canal. I don’t feel comfortable when such a kid is playing chicken with me. He is going like 100 km/h, and I am sweating… My imagination is showing me what would happen. Not too nice, I must say.
You don’t need a speed limit, just put up a sign on the greenway applying to everyone saying “don’t be a dick”
Totally unenforceable and pointless. The guards don’t have the numbers, resources or time to police the roads nevermind cyclists. Next they’ll announce penalty points for not wearing a seat belt on a magic carpet.
Obviously this is dumb from an enforcement point of view. But also how could these rules ever hold up in court? Cyclists aren’t required to have a speedometer (and most cyclists don’t). You can’t criminalise something if people have no reasonable way to know which side of the law they’re on. This would be even more opaque than blood alcohol limits.
I run faster than 15 km/h lol. Not even exaggerating.
When I’m out for a run, I’d have to overtake people on bikes. That’s kinda ridiculous.
That’s stupid. I was multiple times on a Mayo Greenway. Never there was an issue. Pedestrians with dogs, cyclists, families. Everyone was just enjoying the outdoors.
I have a very stupid idea. We already have laws about dangerous driving. Why not enforce them? I don’t think reducing the speed limits to absurd levels will change behaviour of a kid riding stolen motorbike at 100km/h without a helmet in a centre of a town. Or drunken car boy doing 150+ on Wild Atlantic Way. The only beneficient of those laws are road sign manufacturers. It won’t prevent a single fatal accident (go through all fatal accidents and their causes – I tried). It won’t prevent a 60 yo driving straight through the roundabout, “because it wasn’t here 5 years ago and I’m just used to drive straight here” (real situation near our house, when the guy hit the rear end of my wife’s car on roundabout). It also won’t prevent 20 something woman that went off road because she had to immediately respond to a text.
But sure, easiest way is to drop some road signs, notice they did nothing and 2 years later just admit they did what they could.