“in hundreds of new transport projects in the North and the Midlands, and across the country.”
So like HS3 then? The ungiven funding for public transport projects, like Leeds getting a tram network or wider West Yorkshire mass transit? The lack of government support for keeping DSA open?
Or does he mean the constant broken Northern Powerhouse promises. This guy’s a comedian.
The only legacy Sunak has will be a list of broken promises and undelivered soundbites.
Cities in the North do need better connectivity between other cities. They also need better connectivity within those cities. One issue between Hull and Sheffield is track capacity and bottlenecks (again). Faster trains get stuck behind slower trains between Rotherham and Doncaster, for example. The rail link between Sheffield and Manchester isn’t fast either. The M62 is at capacity, prone to closures in bad weather due to it’s location and route. A new motorway (possibly dragging the M180 all the way to the south of Manchester and to Liverpool) would help with that too. Cuts down the journeys lorries take on Snake Pass and Woodhead Pass for a start, another treacherous pass in winter with closures. Just ideas to throw around.
I wouldn’t trust Tories to deliver on anything they pledge. Especially when they’re getting voted out of office next year, based on polling.
Tories lied to us and backtracked on everything they have promised yet again? That doesn’t sound like them at all. /s
Can’t wait for a new line from Liverpool to Hull that only goes to Manchester…
At least the potholes will get fixed so I don’t have to worry about wrecking my suspension while I sit in a non-moving 3hr traffic jam because the roads are overcrowded due to the fact that everyone drives because the rail network in the north is utterly horrendous.
Lets not pretend HS2 was ever a good idea. I’m glad they’re cutting their losses and actually using the money to fund improvements in the north’s infrastructure.
It’s just that these Tory’s enjoy promising things and their follow through has always been terrible, so it all remains to be seen.
>”I challenge anyone to tell me with a straight face that all of that isn’t what the North really needs,” Sunak says, topping off his transport plans.
Could do with seeing him get skinned right now tbh; I think we all know not a single one of those plans will actually come to fruition.
Surely they won’t cancel a bunch of these replacement projects.
*Upgrade the A1, the A2, the A5, the M6…* – BBC News
Millions has already been spent on upgrading the M6 into a smart motorway which has already been scrapped due to safety fears. What’s going to be the next great idea?
Genuinely embarrassing, the least ambitious government in history.
Billions of taxpayer money wasted and Tory backed contractors richer
It seems when the government talks about the north, the north ends around Leeds. Rarely any mention of Newcastle or surrounding areas although there was a bit in there for Blyth. Like when are we going to have a road fit for purpose between Morpeth and Edinburgh?
As for rail, the biggest investment they could make is a decent line between Liverpool and Hull. The transpennine route is painfully slow and I have always felt that would be better for the north than HS2. Newcastle to Liverpool on a train takes longer than Newcastle to London, which is ridiculous.
Not that we don’t need HS2, we need all these projects. Problem is of course the funding. I’d be questioning why HS2 costs bloated so much (not just inflation) and then try to come up with a solution to do it for less.
“Reopen the Don Valley line”
Ah yes, that same Don Valley line that now has things such as the Royal Victoria hotel extension, factories and warehouses and Meadowhall shopping centre built on it.
Best thing is, during the planning phase for HS2, when it was supposed to be coming to Sheffield, it was proposed to rebuild Sheffield Victoria and use the Woodhead tunnel and the government said no, because it would be too expensive.
Guys a fucking clown.
“The PM pledges to “reinvest every penny” saved – which he says is £36bn – in other transport connections in the North, the Midlands and across the country”
The last bit. “Across the country”. I hope thats not including the South? This money should be for projects where the line was scrapped only
I wonder how much the oil companies are paying him? Cancelling off shore wind farms, investing in North Sea drilling, delaying or cancelling green targets, cancelling public transport projects such as HS2. All of this to get more people using oil-guzzling vehicles and putting them off rail transport.
A British government fucks over the North and Midlands in favour of London. Shock!
In a surprise twist that he’s been denying for days…
The alternatives he’s saying the money is going to be diverted to were already planned and funded. He’s taking the UK for fools…
What an utter waste of time and money, classic tories
“we’re not going to finish building this thing we promised, but you can trust us when we promise to build all these other new things instead!”
​
With what money, from where, and when, over what time frame? HS2 was to generate revenues and fuel growth ffs
I’m sure the “savings” won’t be used to fund tax cuts for the rich, and will instead be used in already planned and funded projects…
I have no confidence that any of this stuff will be built in my lifetime, not under the current government.
As someone who lives near Hull, I welcome the electrification of the train line, which is something we’ve been wanting for a long time, and a lot of these plans sound good… but you know what else sounded good? The “Northern Powerhouse”, new hospitals and being able to control immigration.
I’ll give them credit once they manage to do what they say.
I’m desperately hopeful of an independent enquiry into this cluster fuck of a project.
How did they get the numbers so incredibly wrong? Where’s the data showing that this was a good idea to begin with? Where has the money gone?
Who’s pockets have been lined with taxpayers money?
Where can I put a bet on that all the land which was purchased from the government for this will end up for a fraction of what was paid to Tory donors or companies linked to them?
Dumb decision but I guess at least this week he’s scrapped something that was real as a pose to scrapping non-existent policies.
“Be in no doubt: it is time for a change … Thank you.” Couldn’t agree more Richi, general election, when?
Makes you think what the point of even paying tax is. Especially in the north. BILLIONS have been wasted but the only areas that seem to benefit are those that are already wealthy.
We could be so more more as a country.
OK so I am breaking this promise but here are some new promises I have not yet broken!
How can you believe any new projects he announces will actually happen
I am willing to bet within a year it’ll be “we can’t afford to do these other projects”.
I seem to remember hearing him recently say something like ” we found people prefer to drive and not use public transport.
I mean, maybe if more attention and care was given to public transport, people would be more willing to us it. But, no. Let’s just cancel expensive prolonged half finished projects.
It was always astonishing that a Vanity Project, of Mr Andrew Adonis, without any justification, from the latter years of the 1997-2010 Government, spiked at the time, should have gained traction by Cameron and Gidiot Osborne after 2010.
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“New Network North”
“in hundreds of new transport projects in the North and the Midlands, and across the country.”
So like HS3 then? The ungiven funding for public transport projects, like Leeds getting a tram network or wider West Yorkshire mass transit? The lack of government support for keeping DSA open?
Or does he mean the constant broken Northern Powerhouse promises. This guy’s a comedian.
The only legacy Sunak has will be a list of broken promises and undelivered soundbites.
Cities in the North do need better connectivity between other cities. They also need better connectivity within those cities. One issue between Hull and Sheffield is track capacity and bottlenecks (again). Faster trains get stuck behind slower trains between Rotherham and Doncaster, for example. The rail link between Sheffield and Manchester isn’t fast either. The M62 is at capacity, prone to closures in bad weather due to it’s location and route. A new motorway (possibly dragging the M180 all the way to the south of Manchester and to Liverpool) would help with that too. Cuts down the journeys lorries take on Snake Pass and Woodhead Pass for a start, another treacherous pass in winter with closures. Just ideas to throw around.
I wouldn’t trust Tories to deliver on anything they pledge. Especially when they’re getting voted out of office next year, based on polling.
Tories lied to us and backtracked on everything they have promised yet again? That doesn’t sound like them at all. /s
Can’t wait for a new line from Liverpool to Hull that only goes to Manchester…
At least the potholes will get fixed so I don’t have to worry about wrecking my suspension while I sit in a non-moving 3hr traffic jam because the roads are overcrowded due to the fact that everyone drives because the rail network in the north is utterly horrendous.
Lets not pretend HS2 was ever a good idea. I’m glad they’re cutting their losses and actually using the money to fund improvements in the north’s infrastructure.
It’s just that these Tory’s enjoy promising things and their follow through has always been terrible, so it all remains to be seen.
>”I challenge anyone to tell me with a straight face that all of that isn’t what the North really needs,” Sunak says, topping off his transport plans.
Could do with seeing him get skinned right now tbh; I think we all know not a single one of those plans will actually come to fruition.
Surely they won’t cancel a bunch of these replacement projects.
*Upgrade the A1, the A2, the A5, the M6…* – BBC News
Millions has already been spent on upgrading the M6 into a smart motorway which has already been scrapped due to safety fears. What’s going to be the next great idea?
Genuinely embarrassing, the least ambitious government in history.
Billions of taxpayer money wasted and Tory backed contractors richer
It seems when the government talks about the north, the north ends around Leeds. Rarely any mention of Newcastle or surrounding areas although there was a bit in there for Blyth. Like when are we going to have a road fit for purpose between Morpeth and Edinburgh?
As for rail, the biggest investment they could make is a decent line between Liverpool and Hull. The transpennine route is painfully slow and I have always felt that would be better for the north than HS2. Newcastle to Liverpool on a train takes longer than Newcastle to London, which is ridiculous.
Not that we don’t need HS2, we need all these projects. Problem is of course the funding. I’d be questioning why HS2 costs bloated so much (not just inflation) and then try to come up with a solution to do it for less.
“Reopen the Don Valley line”
Ah yes, that same Don Valley line that now has things such as the Royal Victoria hotel extension, factories and warehouses and Meadowhall shopping centre built on it.
Best thing is, during the planning phase for HS2, when it was supposed to be coming to Sheffield, it was proposed to rebuild Sheffield Victoria and use the Woodhead tunnel and the government said no, because it would be too expensive.
Guys a fucking clown.
“The PM pledges to “reinvest every penny” saved – which he says is £36bn – in other transport connections in the North, the Midlands and across the country”
The last bit. “Across the country”. I hope thats not including the South? This money should be for projects where the line was scrapped only
I wonder how much the oil companies are paying him? Cancelling off shore wind farms, investing in North Sea drilling, delaying or cancelling green targets, cancelling public transport projects such as HS2. All of this to get more people using oil-guzzling vehicles and putting them off rail transport.
A British government fucks over the North and Midlands in favour of London. Shock!
In a surprise twist that he’s been denying for days…
The alternatives he’s saying the money is going to be diverted to were already planned and funded. He’s taking the UK for fools…
What an utter waste of time and money, classic tories
“we’re not going to finish building this thing we promised, but you can trust us when we promise to build all these other new things instead!”
​
With what money, from where, and when, over what time frame? HS2 was to generate revenues and fuel growth ffs
I’m sure the “savings” won’t be used to fund tax cuts for the rich, and will instead be used in already planned and funded projects…
I have no confidence that any of this stuff will be built in my lifetime, not under the current government.
As someone who lives near Hull, I welcome the electrification of the train line, which is something we’ve been wanting for a long time, and a lot of these plans sound good… but you know what else sounded good? The “Northern Powerhouse”, new hospitals and being able to control immigration.
I’ll give them credit once they manage to do what they say.
I’m desperately hopeful of an independent enquiry into this cluster fuck of a project.
How did they get the numbers so incredibly wrong? Where’s the data showing that this was a good idea to begin with? Where has the money gone?
Who’s pockets have been lined with taxpayers money?
Where can I put a bet on that all the land which was purchased from the government for this will end up for a fraction of what was paid to Tory donors or companies linked to them?
Dumb decision but I guess at least this week he’s scrapped something that was real as a pose to scrapping non-existent policies.
“Be in no doubt: it is time for a change … Thank you.” Couldn’t agree more Richi, general election, when?
Makes you think what the point of even paying tax is. Especially in the north. BILLIONS have been wasted but the only areas that seem to benefit are those that are already wealthy.
We could be so more more as a country.
OK so I am breaking this promise but here are some new promises I have not yet broken!
How can you believe any new projects he announces will actually happen
I am willing to bet within a year it’ll be “we can’t afford to do these other projects”.
I seem to remember hearing him recently say something like ” we found people prefer to drive and not use public transport.
I mean, maybe if more attention and care was given to public transport, people would be more willing to us it. But, no. Let’s just cancel expensive prolonged half finished projects.
It was always astonishing that a Vanity Project, of Mr Andrew Adonis, without any justification, from the latter years of the 1997-2010 Government, spiked at the time, should have gained traction by Cameron and Gidiot Osborne after 2010.