Is there a negative connotation about those that get German passport due to parent being from Germany or having passport?
I often hear that many are upset by that, but Germany, among majority of countries offer passport by Jus sanguinis/through right of blood, rather than right of land/birth.
There seems to be a big argument about whether someone is German, especially if they have citizenship but aren’t necessarily living there, yet, or 100% fluent. (Not talking about people with 45 percent ancestry calling themselves German).
As someone from Canada, it’s a different perspective. I really couldn’t care less about the passport someone else possesses, whether they’re ethnically European or Asian. But I also don’t gatekeep “Canadian-ness”.
The international community is what brings many together, here. Growing up with Italian, Ukrainian, Indian, Polish, indigenous people.
The difference is that Canada is a country based on immigration, much like USA; majority of Canadians have ancestry from other parts of the world – will use that as cultural or ethnic identifier. (E.g., born in Canada calling themselves Croatian and Italian).
But, my question is, does having German passport have a negative connotation even if you’re from USA or Canada and parent from Germany? Or do most not really care?
by Ber1inerKrapfen
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> I often hear that many are upset
Where did you hear that?
> There seems to be a big argument about whether someone is German,
Not really, no
> does having German passport have a negative connotation even if you’re from USA or Canada and parent from Germany?
no
> do most not really care?
yes
EDIT: I should say it is _is_ rather problematic if a person claims to be german because their great-grandparents were immigrants from germany, and then derives some cultural things from it like: “As i am of german ancestry, i really like to drink european beer and like things to be efficient.” This is common in countries like the USA and Canada, and not only wrong but also racist.
I absolutely don’t care. I mean, why not, if they want dual citizenship, they should get it. I just get annoyed by people who didn’t grow up here and say things like “I like things to be orderly” because I’m (partly) German. Ugh.
And the whole who’s German and who’s not German thing is kind of complicated anyway. For me personally, little Ncuti, who grew up here but only has a Nigerian passport, is more German than Dwayne T. Bierverschütter, who may have a German passport but only came here once 20 years ago to get drunk in Munich.
My opinion: depends on your orgin. I dont think most EU or historical backgrounds are a concern, but there are pairs of passports that realy raises eyebrows.
Doppelpass for turks was a mean by left politicts to increase votes, mostly from protofacist ultra conservative nationalistic migrants at that time. Shady deal, they knew they would vote left SPD-Party with this exta german passport, cause SPD promised the most plus for those groups (by promising to not to intefer with the demands of those groups or even pay for their demans like mosques or anti-integration measures like turkish in elementary school). That this groups are more nationalistic, antifeministic, religious than every other far-right german subpopulation of voters was no issue – they gets extra votes and just have to close their eyes (or use PR-Marketing) to explain that those world views are super duper important and left…. Just translate any debate, demonstration chanting or erdogan speech will show you that even trump (or AfD) is a leftwing hippie compared to them.
And now here we are beside this amoral, unlogical deal between foreign right wing radical groups and german leftwing partys: it opened up for interference with our elections because those people have other real loyality (Erdogan, who explicitly talks to german turks to vote this or that on german elections but wants 100% loyalty, even with secret police, in Germany controlling german-turkish communities – SPD has to apease Erdogan now, or they will lose votes as well, they will do many things like the little right wing dictator wishes) – but the blind spot is still there, because SPD and other left politicans/journalists would never admit this mistake. Best one was the opening of the biggest Mosque in Germany in Cologne a few years ago, built from german taxpayer money, a project from the SPD, and they did not even invited the leftwing Mayor or other german politicans who pushed and enabled this project, but Erdogan xDDD it was a turkish nationalist demonstration, payed by left politicts. No german flag anywhere, but their turkish salute (Wolfsgruß) comparable to the german Nazi salute…. was in the tens of thousands that day.
Austria changed (changes?) this because they had at least come true with this matter.
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Most germans do not see it as something super nice because of that…. otherwise in what situation do you ever need to show/proof that you have two passports? 😀 no one will know.