Die westlichen Munitionsvorräte sind „am Boden des Fasses“, während sich der Krieg in der Ukraine hinzieht, warnt ein NATO-Beamter

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1. So would you say now would be a good time for me to invade a country?

2. Sure, just tell EVERYONE we are out of bullets.

3. This happened during the Vietnam war too and will also pass. The shortages caused by all the supplies sucked up by the Vietnam war especially affected the supply and price of copper. As a result a lot of projects that were built with copper up till the early 70s used aluminum as a replacement.

4. lmao thats a weird way to say the stuff that was once wildly overflowing out of the storage rooms is now barely trickling out instead.

   If you think there is a legitimate shortage in general you are just flat out dumb, and don’t understand just how massive the buildup of weapons/ammunition that has happened over the last half century actually was.

   The *surplus* is running low.

5. So does this mean we are going to send the new stuff now? Great!

6. They need a good long war every few years to burn through the stuff that is close to the expiry date. You can be assured that Ukraine ain’t getting the fresh stuff.

7. I need more boullets

8. Imagine how bad it is for russia

9. “The surplus is running low”
   ‘America backs up immense dump truck, dumps mountain of weaponry and ammo’
   “Funding just got approved! Anyone want this old crap?”

10. “This ad is sponsored by your local ammunition manufacturer.”

11. Is it already time for trebuchets? Gentleman, post your designs to support NATO.

12. Shortages would be a problem if the US didn’t consider a stockpile of ammunition totaling the other six leading militaries a shortage.

    They like to have more bullets than the top 10 combined. Anything less is considered a shortage

    “Wait we are down to ONLY 800 warehouses full of artillery shells? What happened to the other 50? This is preposterous.”

13. Crazy how they phrase it like this to manipulate the understandings of the uninformed citizens

14. The amount of weapons we need is relative to the strength of foreign threats. Letting Ukraine have surplus ammo so they can weaken Russia for us is a great deal.

15. No They’re not. The US alone keeps enough ammo on hand *to fight two wars simultaneously*. What is running low is surplus ammunition, that is ammunition that’s over and above strategic requirements. In fact, like the case of cluster munitions, the US had no intention of ever using it and by giving it to Ukraine they literally saved themselves the expense of paying to dispose of it.

    The next thing that’s happening is that the sudden draw on ammo is spurring manufacturing capacity to be restored, a process that takes years, meaning that this drawdown is actually*boosting* our long term readiness.

16. I think we may be running low on the surplus of specific types of weapons that we are sending to Ukraine, which are of the older kind.

    This might be a blessing in disguise, as the west may be forced to start sending the newer more advanced weapon to Ukraine. But it will be a challenge for Ukraine to train and adapt the use.of those.more advanced weapons.

17. Russian propaganda everywhere they must be losing so much ground

18. I guess the US military is wrong about their assessment of ammo needs. Redditors have it all figured out.

19. This whole time, the U.S. has been saying how Russia is running out of ammunition. So how is it Russia is firing 10 times the amount of ammo and still have more ammunition than all of Nato since Bato is also saying they are running low.
    Sounds like the U.S. is pretty stupid saying shit they don’t know.

20. Fear not US government, for us citizens have plenty of ammo stockpiled. We just ain’t giving to go Ukraine.

21. If the west can’t send ammo then maybe they should send troops.

22. 130 countries can not make enough ammunition compared to one county and a few others helping Russia?

    Explain it to me like I’m 5

23. Not what he said at all, he wants manufacturing to increase given the draw on stockpiles. Drama headline.

24. “The news of possible ammunition shortfalls comes after money to buy weapons for Ukraine was not included in a stopgap spending bill the US Congress passed at the weekend to avoid a federal government shutdown.”

    So no one even said there were shortages… They’re just saying there *might* be *possible* ammunition shortages, and are basing that entirely off the lack of funding in the stopgap bill, which was never about Ukraine… How are they legally allowed to call this news?

25. I dont think NATO as an entity is offering militaristic aid to Ukraine. I think any ammo and arms supplied are from the country’s own pockets; unless I missed some piece of news the last 6 months.

    I really doubt Ukraine has shot 5+ BILLION rounds!

26. Those weapons and that ammo was bought a long time ago to kill Russians. Why not now?

27. IIRC, the US MoD calculates their stores to include multiple flash conflict possibilities (China, NK, etc). Running low on stocks is never rly “running low”

28. There is no actual shortage though. The surplus is running low, not stocks.
    Our leftovers are running low. All the stuff that we had extra of. Stocks have not been touched as far as i know.

    50+ years of ammo build-up of the entire combined NATO arsenal is not going to run out in like 2 years of trickle support lol.
    Seriously, come on. This has to be a clickbait article.

29. The SURPLUS that we’re allowed by law to give away is running low, not the total amount we have.

30. The US has laws on the books dictating how much *stockpile* of arms and munitions we must keep. What’s low is *surplus*.

31. What official is that exactly??? A guy from the pentagon or a guy from a cubicle in cnn headquarters? Or wait don’t tell me some guy employed by the anti Ukraine movement who said that from his comfy desk at home…

32. NATO shouldn’t depend on US help for the foreseeable future. Congress is effectively stopped until a new House Speaker is selected. Based on the last time it will be a tedious process and there is absolutely no guarantee that the new speaker will even favor continuing aid to Ukraine – in fact I would guess on the contrary.

33. How difficult is it to draft 5000 Europeans to make artillery shells? Should’ve been done a year ago. Take over some old factory and start hammering them out.

34. Stupid click bait. Volumes of manufacturing are sky high. Stocks are too. There is no shortage anywhere. There is more wrong in this article than right. US funds aren’t “to buy weapons for Ukraine” it’s the valuation of old shit that’s in storage we are sending them.

35. so this is how long we would have last against Russia huh? sounds dumb for a nato official to say

36. The EU needs to step up as a hole to support Ukraine. They are the first to be affected by WWII.

37. Remember, a minimum 50% of released intel will be disinformation.

38. They aren’t running low, those factories are churing but their product ain’t going to Ukraine, it’s replenishing the overflowing old stock we gave to Ukraine.

    Basically the west’s ammo stocks are being shelf rotated, old stuff to Ukraine fresh new stuff to replace it.

39. I believe this is mainly directed at the EU countries to do more to produce so if the US fails because of the republicans.

    As a European I would love it so much if we could say to the US: don’t worry mate, we got this, we’ll bury Russia, you can focus on China.

    We’re unfortunately so far away from it because the US gave us the advice not to build up military and keep us away from geopolitics so they could decide everything.

    It’s time for Europe to he equal partner.