America’s nonreligious are a growing, diverse phenomenon. They really don’t like organized religion
by CaptainQuality
America’s nonreligious are a growing, diverse phenomenon. They really don’t like organized religion
by CaptainQuality
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Correct – religion and organized religion are no longer needed. It served it’s role in medieval times. There is literally no evidence for a higher being, so let’s focus on actual issues, evidence and science.
We don’t like it when religion tries to take over the government and the schools and dictate how others should live their lives. If you want to go be religious over there, that’s fine. If you want to force me and my family to follow your religion, then we have a problem.
I don’t really mind most religions, but the ones that impose themselves on the lives of others are annoying.
Pagans, Sikhs, and animists, to name a few, are totally chill.
Organized religion is a farce. Most preachers wouldn’t know Jesus if he upended the money counting tables in their churches himself.
I never gave a single fuck that people liked to get together and pretend that they hear and see shit when they don’t, just because the guy next to them is doing it.
But it was when that line was crossed and they started making laws designed around their fairy tales that affected me, is when I started caring very much
The desires of the church always seem to match step for step with very human desires. Why would god need money, or land, or a functional structure of organized control in a church. Those sounds like things humans would very much want to desire.
God curse upon man at the tower of babel was not language, it was religion.
Organized religion is a politically accepted hate group. They are all the same and guilty of child abuse and trying to seperate people from one another. I do not fined a difference, and there are so many more than just the abrahamic religions and they all are guilty of murder to aquite their political power with hypocritical messages of peace.
And yet we have virtually zero representation. I don’t think there’s a single out and proud atheist and at best a couple people that marked “none” on their box for religion.
We desperately need atheists running for office and non-religious voters need to ensure they win.
Freedom of religion, also means freedom FROM religion.
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>They. Really. Don’t. Like. Organized. Religion.Nor its leaders. Nor its politics and social stances. That’s according to a large majority of nones in the AP-NORC survey.But they’re not just a statistic. They’re real people with unique relationships to belief and nonbelief, and the meaning of life.
Also, yes.
You’d think that the rise in atheism would lead to a decline in MAGA politics. But evangelical politics is becoming more and more extreme. Followers worship Trump as if he were sent by god.
Look, if your religion has 10 Commandments that are ro be obeyed, and you want them in every school, then supporting a guy who has broken MULTIPLE of them the savior of your cause, doesnt look good to people. Especially whem the figure has been a public persona for decades, and his non-adherance is well documented.
Then, thats not even toucb the child sex abuse against the Catholoc church, the number of Youth Pasters that get arrested…
And then you decry trans people as immoral, while pointing at Drag Queens as if they are one in the same.
People are smarter than that, and only those that drank the Kool Aide have the brain damage to rationalizes it the way you want.
Yeah because it’s a scam.
The community building aspects of a church are well understood concept. They offer a place to go where people feel like a belong to a group. The problem is that current generation folks don’t appreciate being told what and how to think. They also don’t like being fleeced for money constantly. Above Al they really don’t appreciate being told they will burn in hell for eternity for the choices they make because someone thousands of years ago wrote stuff a book.
The current generation sees no more value in going to church than going to a community event and are voting with their wallets as well as their feet.
I was raised Catholic and did all the sacraments. I don’t know that I’ll ever go back into a church tbh. The blending of politics and religion has become so toxic and inescapable.
Organized religion is a cancer that seeks to control others, of course we don’t like it.
We’ve got no issues with people’s faith, we have an issue when it’s given special treatment and authority over other people.
Why? Fundamentalist Christians are a beacon of compassion and integrity! /s
Organized religion is the oldest running grift, it’s easy money
This is the way forward for this country. The amount of progress that has been stifled by the “religious values” crowd for my entire 30+ year life is staggering.
Christian misogyny has this country in a chokehold. There is good reason for it.
I see no difference between a follower of Jesus and a follower of Zeus
A lot of us endured decades of abuse masked as “Disciplining in the Lord”, and other nice sounding excuses to hurt people. We really don’t like anything that even sniffs of the life we had to live through.
American Christianity did this to themselves when they agreed to be the plausibly deniable cover for racist and sexist politics and now they’re crying because the political spotlight is also shining on their hypocrisy and sins.
because the amount of hypocrisy is ridiculous.
People who claim to be “pro life” because of their faith routinely vote against head start programs, free school lunch, family leave, etc. They also think it’s okay to put up razor wire and shoot refugees.
They claim to be religious while supporting a presidential candidate who has cheated on every woman he was ever married to, paid off a pornstar for silence, clearly worships money, and held up a Bible upside down for a photo opportunity.
Organized religion is about control, and money. I have never had a problem with anyone’s beliefs until they invade my life and demand that I fall in line with their superstitions.
Umm I wonder why… it surely isn’t because they repeatedly attempt to take our rights away with their continuous lobbying or because of their attempt to force their religion down our throats EVEN though belief is supposed to be VOLUNTARY (that’s why it’s faith, not doctrine)
It surely isn’t because of their hypocritical behavior, nor their puritan need to intrude into our private lives.
I’m also sure their massively contradicting beliefs wouldn’t turn anyone off, and their selective interpretation of the Bible? Of course not!
I’m out of sarcasm. But I have a double whammy:
God forbid they’d be ostracized for their own fanatical extremism!
The enlightenment was 300 years ago. Let’s finish the job
Religion is a load of shit that only hampers the world’s progression.
Count me amongst them. I’ve always questioned a bit my entire life. But seeing the behavior of my fellow Christians during the pandemic put me over the edge and I walked away from my faith entirely.
The arrogance, the hypocrisy, the cognitive dissonance. All dialed up to 11 during 2020.
*Church “was not very good for me,” said Emma Komoroski, a University of Missouri freshman who left her childhood Catholicism in her mid-teens. “I’m a lesbian. So that was kind of like, oh, I didn’t really fit, and people don’t like me.”*
Churches are the ones driving people away. They stand in front of young/closeted lgbt kids and spew hate about how they’re sinners and then act shocked that those kids grow up and can’t stand the hypocrisy.
Because we see what organized religion is trying to do to our country. Fuck that.
My aunt who committed suicide when I was 11 was told by her mother, who was on her death bed, that she would be going to hell for being a lesbian. The woman was literally dying and the last thing she wanted to do was tell her daughter she was eternally damned. And so one day in May, a few months after her mom died, my aunt rented a motel room and shot herself. This was less than a year after 9/11.
This country would be a better place if the religious had less than no power. Fairy tales disguised as moral guidance don’t have a place in modern society, and much of the goodwill a lot of these organizations foster does little to cover for the abuses, murders, money laundering, and alienation inherent in organized religion.
Organized religion does suck though. It becomes a performative show and not an actual expression of forgiveness, compassion and piety. 90% of the “christians” i see, christ would fucking hate for being cruel, shallow and mean.
“30% of U.S. adults who claim no religious affiliation in a survey by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research”
Wait a second. Are you suggest that a Bronze-Age Hebrew sky god is not terribly applicable in 2023? Huh. And yet the world still spins? I dunno, man.
Organized religion is one of the greatest evils of the human story. The amount of suffering it has caused throughout history, from crusades, sacrifices, conversions, genocide, etc, is truly incomprehensible in its reach.
>When she was recovering from an injury at a nursing home in 2010, Logman said, her husband was home by himself in despair and died before she could return home. She said her pastor refused to visit him because he hadn’t been involved in church.
Dude… fuck that guy. And Christians wonder why they can’t grow their flock.
The Christian right has a loooooong history of actively targeting specific groups and hurting people for power. Every bigoted group and movement throughout history can be traced back to the Christian right in one way or another.
Enough is enough
As one of the “nonreligious” it isn’t that I “don’t like” organized religions. They can do whatever the fuck they want. My problem is that they keep trying to get my friends and I to abide by their fucking rules.
Yea. Used to be indifferent about organized religion. Cannot afford that now that they feel entitled to hijack the government.
Not religious in the slightest, but one low key thing Churches do provide is a sense of community.
One side affect of the unchurchening has been a lot of lonely people glomming onto *different* bullshit some of it really unhealthy. Like:
– Incel/Mens rights activism
– Anti Vax propaganda
– UFO conspiracies
– White Nationalism
– The MAGA cult
I think humans have a need to feel like they belong to a tribe and will fine one some where. We can’t just be highly individual very online consumers.