The Republicans Ousted Their Leader, So of Course It’s Democrats’ Fault: To say that anyone outside of the House GOP caucus had a hand in McCarthy’s downfall requires superhuman amounts of ignorance.
by thenewrepublic
The Republicans Ousted Their Leader, So of Course It’s Democrats’ Fault: To say that anyone outside of the House GOP caucus had a hand in McCarthy’s downfall requires superhuman amounts of ignorance.
by thenewrepublic
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The Democratic Party does not exist to bail out Republicans from their mistakes and provide a bulwark against their own worst instincts; to never to ask for conditions or make demands or participate meaningfully in the policymaking process.
Current CNN headline: “Why Democrats Let McCarthy Lose.” 🙄🤦♂️
Or the regular Republican amount of dishonesty.
fortunately for the GQP, they are highly capable of superhuman amounts of ignorance, as are their supporters.
Let’s just imagine for a moment, the tables were turned. The Democrats were in turmoil and the Democratic speaker… [who supported the violent coup attempt that nearly got members of the House killed, refused to work with Republicans until he needed them at the last-minute to avert two economic disasters and, just days earlier, shit all over the Republicans by lying that it was they who wanted to shut down the government (when in reality, they saved that Democratic speaker, who lost nearly 100 of his own members on that vote)] … was about to be ousted.
Does anyone think a single Republican would vote to save that speaker?
Even if none of that was true and it was JESUS as the Democratic speaker in need of votes, do you think any Republican would vote to save him.
No, of course not.
There is a notion these days that Democrats are the only party that has any agency. If a bill fails, it’s because the Democrats didn’t fight hard enough, the Republican filibuster is a fact of life, Republican obstruction is a fact of life, Republican partisanship and poison pills are a fact of life, so it’s up to the Democrats to pass good legislation.
Republicans have been so inept for so long that the left and center no longer see much point in trying to hold them accountable, the sun rises in the east, water gets things wet, and Republican politicians can’t/won’t do shit to fix a problem.
What voter went to the polls in November 2020 thinking to themselves:
>*”You know, normally I’d vote straight Republican, but their repeated failure to pass an effective infrastructure package is really a deal breaker for me.”*
Nobody.
How many voters sat on their asses in November 2010, thinking to themselves:
>*”Man, I normally vote for Democrats, but I’m so disappointed that the Affordable Care Act turned out to be another milquetoast half-measure that I think I’ll stay home, it’s almost as bad as passing nothing at all.”*
Several.
The media, the electorate, the pundits, there’s this persistent notion that the Democratic party is the only one with agency. If voters and the media held the GOP accountable for their bullshit the same way they hold Democrats accountable for the GOP’s bullshit, I think our elections would look a lot different.
They always want the dems to save their asses. Not this time. You called the vote. You got it. Thems the breaks. McCarthy was an execrable speaker. There was nothing to save.
this is part of the strategy. get into congress, disrupt, obstruct, wreck the place, and then blame everything on dems.
do you see *any* GOP changing their vote because of this? put another way, their *asinine deliberate sabotage of government itself is working*, and when everything implodes, they’ll replace it with fascist dictatorship
McCarthy hates democrats. Why would they help him?
Remember when Obama vetoed a bill, and Republicans overrode his veto – then blamed Obama for not warning them that the bill was bad and they shouldn’t have overrode his veto?
Yeah. Good times.
House Democrats should gaslight the shit out of the GOP and brag everywhere about how easy it was to trick and manipulate Green, Jordan, Gaetz etc into doing this. If Pelosi had been removed in the same way the GOP would have never stopped bragging about it.
> requires superhuman amounts of ignorance.
GOP is uniquely equipped for this challenge!
It’s like that stick in the bicycle tire meme.
> To say that anyone outside of the House GOP caucus had a hand in McCarthy’s downfall requires superhuman amounts of ignorance.
Ummm…… have you been paying attention?
There was a Michael Bloomberg op-Ed today blaming democrats for not bailing out McCarthy. The bottom said “to reach the editor responsible for this article…” and listed Jim O’Brien. Asshat doesn’t even want to be responsible for his own hilariously bad take.
… or very human proportions of cynicism.
“Do you remember the 15 times we already voted against you, followed by months of you saying you don’t want or need our help?”
The party of personal responsibility strikes again.
> “Chaos is never America’s friend,” [Pence] said at Georgetown University. “I’m deeply disappointed that a handful of Republicans would partner with all the Democrats in the House to oust the speaker.” Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer concurred, tweeting, “Unbelievable. The Democrats, with the help of Matt Gaetz and a handful of GOP Members, just ousted the Republican Speaker of the House. What a mess.”
This framing is really something.
Democratics didn’t elect Kevin as speaker. And equally, their votes are not responsible for his departure….
Finally, an up to date tag line for the GOP
Republicans: Superhuman Amounts of Ignorance
Maybe just blame the guy who instigated this in the first place? Dems couldn’t have voted either way if it wasn’t for Gaetz.
https://www.pbs.org/video/october-4-2023-pbs-newshour-full-episode-1696392028/
It was on News Hour… Starts around the 19min mark….
It was an interview with Rep. Nicole Malliotakis. She states McCarthy shouldn’t have been removed, thought he was doing a good job at reforms and states he was ousted for simply moving the spending bill forward and it was unfair.
She then goes on to say how they have to stick together if they are going to get things they want and that they, the Republicans, had a plan in place to get those things over the next 40+ days but it was unfortunate because they have now lost a lot of leverage because Matt Gates chose to side with Democrats to oust our speaker.
Frankly, I think the plan had been along to get Gym Jordan in the speaker position
If the Republicans are actually interested in governing they could create a power sharing arrangement with the Democrats and move forward meaningful bipartisan legislation.
Neither party would get everything that they want but at least the government would function until the next election.
The stupid, incompetent, loony, befuddled Democrats have once again wrecked the very smart and bigly genius Republicans.
How do they do it?
I am getting real LOLs from the Rethugs now whining, crying, and screaming about the lack of the House Democrat’s bipartisanship. I mean literally laughing out loud when I read their astonishing self-pity and their hilariously, absolutely obtuse take on what they’ve done to themselves. It seems the snake is swallowing its tail.
They always have to play the victim. Unfortunately enough people play the victim along with them to keep them in power. They lie about and repeatedly vote against important legislation for veterans and the American people. Then proceed to take credit for the shit they voted against. Pathetic losers at best!
If McCarthy had wanted help from the Dems he was perfectly capable of reaching out to them to start negotiations.
Fact:
“The idea that this was an obvious decision to make is absurd…”
Also, my two bits, the Dems don’t have to fix a party that’s gone crazy. My god look at them. MTG, “Grudge porn, anyone?”. These people are NUTS and voting to keep milk toast McCarthy was absolutely no guarantee this group of quack following fools would do anything to help the current situation. They all need to listen to their CHOICE of “doctor” and have a Clorox cocktail and stuff a UV bulb up their ass and take the cure.
What is funny to me is that r/Conservative is upset that Biden is building the border wall THEY WANTED. instead of looking at the chaos in their own party.
Superhuman amounts of ignorance is the Fox News audience and don’t forget the internet and radio.
Tell that to Darryl Issa (R-CA) who just blamed Democrats on CBS News.
Just like they betrayed America, they betrayed their own party. How do these people get funding and re-elected if they’re just screwing around and destroying things? The only beneficiaries are America’s enemies.
Gaslighting is the only Republican strategy left.
If any group of people has superhuman ignorance it is MAGA people.
Ever since Trump, republicans have become a terrorist organization, not a political party.
Party that hates compromise to the point they actively work to disrupt government angry when they attract member politicians that hate compromise and actively work to disrupt government.
I’m beginning to suspect Democrats also played a role in Donald Trump losing the 2020 election…
Are you surprised? I mean McCarthy neded nearly every Dem to vote yes in his 45 day CR to keep the government running and then literally within hours tried to blame Dems for wanting to shit down the government…
Thank god the reporter called him on his BS and reminded him that more Dems voted for the bill than his own party members.
So the GOP were going to blame the Dems no matter what happened, but this totally ignores the fact that McCarthy never gave them a reason a reason to help them out. All he’s done is attack the left and back out of deals, and when it came down to it he didn’t even ask them not to vote to remove him.
The GOP wants to say that McCarthy passed a 45 CR with the Dems, so they owe him. Let’s be clear, the Dems helped HIM, not the other way around. This wasn’t the deal negotiated with Biden and it doesn’t assume anything in Nov. they could have voted against it and made McCarthy and the GOP look like idiots, but the Dems actually care about keeping the government open.
I have to speak up for the Republicans here. They are in no way ignorant. They are, however, profoundly dishonest and depend up the ignorance of their rube supporters.
If a few years back someone like AOC was able to start a vote to remove Pelosi and all it took was like 5 dems + the entire GOP caucus you fucking know for sure Pelosi would have been gone and the GOP would be bragging/crowing about it endlessly.
Only literal idiots are buying that it’s democrats fault. They must really think highly of their base.
“think of how stupid the average person is, and half of everyone is stupider than that!” (Paraphrasing George Carlin)
Republicans say what they want and their base believes it. Superhuman ignorance is pervasive in that voting bloc.
Who called for the vote to vacate the chair?
Oh my God Democrats have been taking responsibility for responsibly running the country for the last 20 years. And now we need to take responsibility for the Republican party too? Fuck them.
“How dare they stand back and let that leopard eat our leader’s face!” – Member of Leopards Eating Faces Party