Tldr: They are talking about the rules needed to elect a new speaker.
The first round of speaker votes occurs privately on the R side via secret ballot. Today, it takes 51% (111 Rs) to nominate someone.
Problem is, they go out to the floor for a public vote with the Dems and they need 218 Rs to vote yes.
So 111 to nominate, 218 to elect.
With McCarty they only had like 210. Then they embarrassed themselves via 15 rounds of public votes before they got to 218.
So now they want to change the rules and not let anyone get nominated unless they clear 218 private votes. Do all of the dozens of rounds and fighting behind closed doors. So when they come out with the Dems, they have the 218 needed to pass in round 1
I suspect no matter what the rules are they’ll embarrass themselves again. And again and again and again.
I am hearing the Gaetz faction will only agree to the rule changes if Jim Jordan is chosen as speaker. You also have a bunch of moderate Republicans who are saying Jim Jordan is a absolute no go even if Trump endorses him. I would bet Scalise has the most Support but they will likely have to make a deal with democrats if they want to elect him with the rule changes.
PSA: since nobody here bothered to read the article, this is the proposed rule change:
> Currently, Republican conference rules require a two-thirds vote among caucus members to approve a Speaker nominee before moving to a public vote on the House floor. Instead, they reportedly want to raise the caucus vote threshold to 218 out of 221, the same amount needed for an outright election in a full vote.
it has NOTHING TO DO WITH a motion to unseat the speaker.
Wow. It’s not a democracy with these rubes, it’s almost a papal conclave.
> Currently, Republican conference rules require a two-thirds vote among caucus members to approve a Speaker nominee before moving to a public vote on the House floor. Instead, they reportedly want to raise the caucus vote threshold to 218 out of 221, the same amount needed for an outright election in a full vote.
There is no way they are ready for a floor vote by next Wednesday. They are in more disarray than they were in January. They had 2 months to figure that Speaker election out. Next week is gonna be wild.
They don’t need to change the rules, the next congressperson that can do this will be the next speaker:
Excellent. Now they can’t blame the Dems for the next shutdown, since it will happen before they
manage to even nominate the next speaker.
Republicans want minority rule for everyone…until it affects them personally.
Republicans literally change the rules after every election big or small because they cant govern
Come on moderate republicans, just flip to Hakeem.
They will always embarrass themselves again
Hard for them to not act like clowns regardless of the rules
So they’re going to be locked in their room until the next election? I have zero confidence in their new “let’s be crabs in a bucket” idea.
How can they even take a word that the freedom caucus says? They continually say one thing then do something completely different.
That’ll work
The GOP would have to transport themselves back to 2007, pre-Tea Party, to not embarrass themselves. There are no more moderate Republicans.
No one will ever get 218
Bless their hearts
It’s a wee bit late for that don’t you think?
Imagine my utter shock to see Republicans in favor of avoiding transparency in the democratic process to protect themselves from their constituents seeing how incompetent they are
Republicans – “You must follow the rules. We get to change and ignore them as we see fit. Especially if it means we have to be transparent to the American people. That should only be reserved for the people we truly serve – the rich.”
Why can’t 5 republicans go cut a deal with democrats and move on. I’m sure they could get a ton of concessions and just carry out the basic functions of government.
Can they make the change without the democrats?
Last time they did that, it affected them again anyway
“We have decided that we just won’t have a Speaker anymore so we can’t embarrass ourselves with one.”
Hard to do when their whole party is embarrassing to the TRUE American people. Bunch of asshats with loud mouths making the world think the whole county is full of hypocritical idiots who pander to a orange douche.
How about… NO?
They have another opportunity to get the fuck away from these idiots.
To force them to splinter or leave.
Cowards.
Republicans: “Dems can’t do that, it’s against the rules.”
Also Republicans: “Bypass the Filibuster to get what we want. Take Congressional approved budget and use it somewhere else. Ignore a guideline about indictments keeping people out of Speaker role. We are not restrained by rules and regulations. We can do what we want. Those are only to stop Dems from doing things.”
Anyone in 2024 OTHER THAN TRUMP!
They changed the rules to make what just happened, happen, and then are shocked when it happens.
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It shouldn’t be one person, not with these clowns more interested in themselves than governing. Pelosi also had a majority of one party
What a bunch of fucking cowards.
Let’s be honest here, if they change the rules they will just embarrass themselves in a new inventive way
First they need a speaker.
Oh c’mon! It’s gonna be a shitshow no matter what.
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Tldr: They are talking about the rules needed to elect a new speaker.
The first round of speaker votes occurs privately on the R side via secret ballot. Today, it takes 51% (111 Rs) to nominate someone.
Problem is, they go out to the floor for a public vote with the Dems and they need 218 Rs to vote yes.
So 111 to nominate, 218 to elect.
With McCarty they only had like 210. Then they embarrassed themselves via 15 rounds of public votes before they got to 218.
So now they want to change the rules and not let anyone get nominated unless they clear 218 private votes. Do all of the dozens of rounds and fighting behind closed doors. So when they come out with the Dems, they have the 218 needed to pass in round 1
I suspect no matter what the rules are they’ll embarrass themselves again. And again and again and again.
I am hearing the Gaetz faction will only agree to the rule changes if Jim Jordan is chosen as speaker. You also have a bunch of moderate Republicans who are saying Jim Jordan is a absolute no go even if Trump endorses him. I would bet Scalise has the most Support but they will likely have to make a deal with democrats if they want to elect him with the rule changes.
PSA: since nobody here bothered to read the article, this is the proposed rule change:
> Currently, Republican conference rules require a two-thirds vote among caucus members to approve a Speaker nominee before moving to a public vote on the House floor. Instead, they reportedly want to raise the caucus vote threshold to 218 out of 221, the same amount needed for an outright election in a full vote.
it has NOTHING TO DO WITH a motion to unseat the speaker.
Wow. It’s not a democracy with these rubes, it’s almost a papal conclave.
> Currently, Republican conference rules require a two-thirds vote among caucus members to approve a Speaker nominee before moving to a public vote on the House floor. Instead, they reportedly want to raise the caucus vote threshold to 218 out of 221, the same amount needed for an outright election in a full vote.
There is no way they are ready for a floor vote by next Wednesday. They are in more disarray than they were in January. They had 2 months to figure that Speaker election out. Next week is gonna be wild.
They don’t need to change the rules, the next congressperson that can do this will be the next speaker:
https://youtu.be/BiAwpYIkRmU?si=Xhm2wgNzLJjHXaC2
Excellent. Now they can’t blame the Dems for the next shutdown, since it will happen before they
manage to even nominate the next speaker.
Republicans want minority rule for everyone…until it affects them personally.
Republicans literally change the rules after every election big or small because they cant govern
Come on moderate republicans, just flip to Hakeem.
They will always embarrass themselves again
Hard for them to not act like clowns regardless of the rules
So they’re going to be locked in their room until the next election? I have zero confidence in their new “let’s be crabs in a bucket” idea.
How can they even take a word that the freedom caucus says? They continually say one thing then do something completely different.
That’ll work
The GOP would have to transport themselves back to 2007, pre-Tea Party, to not embarrass themselves. There are no more moderate Republicans.
No one will ever get 218
Bless their hearts
It’s a wee bit late for that don’t you think?
Imagine my utter shock to see Republicans in favor of avoiding transparency in the democratic process to protect themselves from their constituents seeing how incompetent they are
Republicans – “You must follow the rules. We get to change and ignore them as we see fit. Especially if it means we have to be transparent to the American people. That should only be reserved for the people we truly serve – the rich.”
Why can’t 5 republicans go cut a deal with democrats and move on. I’m sure they could get a ton of concessions and just carry out the basic functions of government.
Can they make the change without the democrats?
Last time they did that, it affected them again anyway
“We have decided that we just won’t have a Speaker anymore so we can’t embarrass ourselves with one.”
Hard to do when their whole party is embarrassing to the TRUE American people. Bunch of asshats with loud mouths making the world think the whole county is full of hypocritical idiots who pander to a orange douche.
How about… NO?
They have another opportunity to get the fuck away from these idiots.
To force them to splinter or leave.
Cowards.
Republicans: “Dems can’t do that, it’s against the rules.”
Also Republicans: “Bypass the Filibuster to get what we want. Take Congressional approved budget and use it somewhere else. Ignore a guideline about indictments keeping people out of Speaker role. We are not restrained by rules and regulations. We can do what we want. Those are only to stop Dems from doing things.”
Anyone in 2024 OTHER THAN TRUMP!
They changed the rules to make what just happened, happen, and then are shocked when it happens.