Erste Geheimdienstinformationen zeigen, dass iranische Führer von Hamas-Angriff überrascht sind, sagen die USA

by Final_Pomelo_2603

27 comments

  1. The thing about actual conspiracies is if they were as widespread as people believe they would fail.

    The only way Israeli intelligence wouldn’t have known about this is if there was no outside communication of plans. And even then it’s still shocking they didn’t know.

  2. They admit to training Hamas terrorists

    They are known to provide funding to Hamas

    But they were “surprised” at the attack.

    Bull.

  4. …or…what happens when your pet thinks independently???

  5. Surprised or not, they still had a hand in this by funding and giving support to Hamas for years.

  6. Glad that US is clarifying on this issue. The worst thing to happen now is to escalate this into a full-blown war in Middle East.

  8. Lol if you think I’m trusting anything the US has to say about this.

    Couldn’t be a more clear conflict of interest, I mean goddamn.

  11. Not exactly surprising, I mean. I am not saying that happened, but it is very easy to make a compelling story about “Hamas and Palestinian cause losing influence over the Arab states over the years, resulting in the 2020 normalisation wave, and things only worsen from then on. Indeed, while animosity among populace still exists, the Arab states have generally successfully make a more moderate position without receiving serious backlash from their populace. With this traditional leverage decaying, and rumours about Israeli-Saudi normalisation appearing, Hamas is afraid of completely losing its value to Iran (disrupting Israel-Arab relationship by stroking tensions), since Arab indifference + Iranian abandonment = Israel has free hands on Palestine, so make one last ditch effort, one final madness to try to turn the tides without informing Iran.” Again, it is entirely possible that is not what happened, but if everyone is just interested in crafting a story without making Iran directly involved, thus saving everyone from extra tension, that’s the way I’ll craft it.

  12. Meanwhile Putin wants the war to start. The others don’t want one

  13. Was listening to an NPR podcast about how Israel ended up here and the person they were talking to said that Israel’s military isn’t as strong right now in terms of actual soldiers because some have quit since Netanyahu took office again. Many people were upset and he had trouble getting the votes because of his policies.

  16. Iran supplies Hamas for years.

    Iran provides strategic and technical information to Hamas.

    Iran foments Anti-Israeli feelings throughout the region.

    Iran esposues a philosophy tied to the literal destruction of Israel.

    Hamas carries out an operation aligned to the stated goals and philosophy of Iran.

    Iran: *surprised Pickahu Face*

  18. So even if they didn’t know the date or the particulars of the attack. I’m having a hard time believing they were unaware of it coming. Someone gave them paragliders, and someone gave them the training for the type of obstacles they would encounter in such an operation. I’m going to go ahead and guess this is being framed in a way to keep the scope of the fighting isolated in Gaza and not warping into a region wide conflict where the US will need to commit troops to defending Israel from the rest of the Middle East.

  20. I have to admit, I’m genuinely impressed they were not to blame. But if the US, Israel and Iran say so I’m inclined to believe them, they are the experts after all.

  22. Bullshit.

    They’re providing cover for the administration trying to avoid blowback for the policies and lack of enforcement of Iranian sanctions that contributed to this.

  24. Just like 9/11, pearl harbor and other successful sneak attacks, the attack happened when a whole bunch of random events that have no association with one another leads to one big attack.

  25. Wouldn’t be surprised if Bebe told the military to stand down in order to justify a war.

  26. Well, the kneejerk reaction was that they were in on it too, but it’s possible they weren’t.

    I wish folks would take a step back and remember 9/11 and how we all just threw all our cards at Iraq, who had nothing to do with 9/11. A lot of people did not question our invasion at the time.

    We really need more facts before jumping to conclusions that could lead to more deaths or more war.

  27. News is so fake you can’t even believe what you hear/reas.
    They initially said the opposite.

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