This point I say go for it. I was in Dublin yesterday and it seems like every bike and pedestrian would be happier and safer if all motor vehicles were banned from it.
This will work Just as soon as they have Guards on every corner in the city center
Go for it, I love cycling and Dublin is a stressful nightmare to drive around. I’d hope they’ve got ideas for secure bike parking though.
I like it. More people on their bicycles / walking. Buses should become faster, there would be an opportunity to make these areas greener.
God no this would be fantastic.
good , their are some parts of teh city that donr need cars
The phrasing of that headline shows how car centric a lot of Ireland is.
It’s extremely common for areas of big cities to not allow car access. What exactly is “radical” about it?
As long as buses are included in the ban, or else just have highly pollutant mobile walls in the middle of every road. College green is unusable as a pedestrian space because of buses more than it ever as because of cars. Walk through the gates of Trinity and rather than a vista up Dame street it is back-to-back buses advertising the next Hollywood flop.
Feck De Examiner, ‘radical plan’ me hole, it’s a perfectly normal and acceptable plan for a living city, it’ll be great.
>Isn’t that a bit mad?
Hell no. There’s far too much private traffic through the core of the city centre.
Bahahahaha someone went through great efforts to try make this headline real emotive…. while being just vague enough to not be too obvious about it.
I do have a few criticisms. As a nerd I would like to see the research backing the points made in these documents. While the conclusions drawn in the DCCT Study are plausible and reasonable they don’t reference the studies that influenced the recommended actions. I believe it’s likely that this proposal is based on published research but that research should be referenced in these documents. Further, I don’t see any reference to [traffic flow modeling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_traffic_modeling_and_analysis) which should be one of the pillars of such a study. I also don’t see any comparative research with both successful and unsuccessful initiatives in other cities, particularly European cities (though a study of American cities as a cautionary tale would also be useful).
In general I give the study a B- and if I was giving it to a student I’d include a little “good improvement, keep working” note next to the grade. Each of the three documents is an improvement over the one that came before it but the cardinal issues I mentioned above need to be addressed.
I would actually support it if Dublin’s public transport is up for it, and also make commuting between north and south side easier. I need to cross to south side to work, and I disliked driving to the city trying to get to the south side and become part of the traffic jam as much as everyone here.
What about mandating WFH where viable instead? What about following through with the metro promises first?
The picture they use for this article has loads of cars in it?
Parts of Dublin are already closed to cars. I love it, it makes it a much more enjoyable experience without the noise and pollution of cars. I’ve avoided taking my car anywhere near the city centre for years now – parking is too expensive, and traffic moves incredibly slowly at certain times of the day. I only ever take the Dart or Luas.
They recently pedestrianised most of Capel Street and it’s made a hugely positive effect. I’d love them to close many more areas.
Interesting that the vast majority of comments here are in favour of excluding cars. The OP seems to be the only dissenting voice
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This point I say go for it. I was in Dublin yesterday and it seems like every bike and pedestrian would be happier and safer if all motor vehicles were banned from it.
This will work Just as soon as they have Guards on every corner in the city center
Go for it, I love cycling and Dublin is a stressful nightmare to drive around. I’d hope they’ve got ideas for secure bike parking though.
I like it. More people on their bicycles / walking. Buses should become faster, there would be an opportunity to make these areas greener.
God no this would be fantastic.
good , their are some parts of teh city that donr need cars
The phrasing of that headline shows how car centric a lot of Ireland is.
It’s extremely common for areas of big cities to not allow car access. What exactly is “radical” about it?
As long as buses are included in the ban, or else just have highly pollutant mobile walls in the middle of every road. College green is unusable as a pedestrian space because of buses more than it ever as because of cars. Walk through the gates of Trinity and rather than a vista up Dame street it is back-to-back buses advertising the next Hollywood flop.
Feck De Examiner, ‘radical plan’ me hole, it’s a perfectly normal and acceptable plan for a living city, it’ll be great.
>Isn’t that a bit mad?
Hell no. There’s far too much private traffic through the core of the city centre.
Bahahahaha someone went through great efforts to try make this headline real emotive…. while being just vague enough to not be too obvious about it.
Well played.
It will get readers, thats for sure..
Good idea
[For anyone wondering this is the proposal discussed in the article](https://consultation.dublincity.ie/++preview++/traffic-and-transport/draft-dublin-city-centre-transport-plan/supporting_documents/Draft%20Dublin%20City%20Centre%20Transport%20Plan%202023.pdf) and it is influenced by the [DCCT Study](https://consultation.dublincity.ie/traffic-and-transport/traffic-management-changes-north-and-south-quays/supporting_documents/Dublin%20City%20Centre%20Transport%20Study.pdf) and [presented here](https://consultation.dublincity.ie/traffic-and-transport/draft-dublin-city-centre-transport-plan/supporting_documents/City%20Centre%20Plan%20%20Transportation%20%20SPC%20%20%20Setember%202023%20.pdf). I like the intent, format, and design of the document. Making life more difficult for people commuting by car is and should be the goal. People will use public transportation when it is more convenient than driving. That in turn reduces the single occupied vehicles and significantly decreases travel times across the entire system. Making life less convenient for motorists in the short to medium turn makes life more convenient for *everyone* in the long term.
I do have a few criticisms. As a nerd I would like to see the research backing the points made in these documents. While the conclusions drawn in the DCCT Study are plausible and reasonable they don’t reference the studies that influenced the recommended actions. I believe it’s likely that this proposal is based on published research but that research should be referenced in these documents. Further, I don’t see any reference to [traffic flow modeling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_traffic_modeling_and_analysis) which should be one of the pillars of such a study. I also don’t see any comparative research with both successful and unsuccessful initiatives in other cities, particularly European cities (though a study of American cities as a cautionary tale would also be useful).
In general I give the study a B- and if I was giving it to a student I’d include a little “good improvement, keep working” note next to the grade. Each of the three documents is an improvement over the one that came before it but the cardinal issues I mentioned above need to be addressed.
I would actually support it if Dublin’s public transport is up for it, and also make commuting between north and south side easier. I need to cross to south side to work, and I disliked driving to the city trying to get to the south side and become part of the traffic jam as much as everyone here.
What about mandating WFH where viable instead? What about following through with the metro promises first?
The picture they use for this article has loads of cars in it?
Parts of Dublin are already closed to cars. I love it, it makes it a much more enjoyable experience without the noise and pollution of cars. I’ve avoided taking my car anywhere near the city centre for years now – parking is too expensive, and traffic moves incredibly slowly at certain times of the day. I only ever take the Dart or Luas.
They recently pedestrianised most of Capel Street and it’s made a hugely positive effect. I’d love them to close many more areas.
Interesting that the vast majority of comments here are in favour of excluding cars. The OP seems to be the only dissenting voice
Good