Ever since investigators pulled a pile of sensitive government documents out of former President Donald Trump’s infamously chandeliered bathroom, a question has loomed over the resulting criminal case: Why on Earth did Trump want those documents, anyway?
Now, prosecutors claim they have the answer and they say they’re confident they can prove it in court.
The evidence made public to date is just the tip of the iceberg. What lurks below is likely massive and unyielding. Tick tock…
And what’s going to be really funny is when Jack Smith simply plays a video of Trump explaining exactly why he kept the documents.
Anybody who thinks that’s not what’s going to happen has been living under a rock since 2015.
Let me guess. He was selling access to foreign nationals and his employees are ratting him out
Too bad the Judge I Lean Qanon will keep delaying the case.
It’ll be interesting to see how the DOJ makes the case while not revealing the documents to a jury which doesn’t have security clearance. I suppose they’ll reveal some documents, but the most damage to national security would come from the most sensitive ones
I think the reporting on this is a little misleading.
The new court filing also says “But the fact is that the great majority of **the allegations in the indictment**—including allegations of the defendants’ conduct, knowledge, and **intent**—turn on evidence contained in the unclassified discovery, not the much smaller set of classified discovery.”
The indictment includes several mentions of “did corruptly conceal a record, document, and other object, and attempted to do so, **with the intent to impair the object’s integrity and availability for use in an official proceeding [the grand jury]**…”
A simple reading of the new court filing is that it states that they can prove that “Trump intended [to retain] them” to prevent a grand jury from indicting him for possessing and not returning classified documents.
It’s jumping the gun to infer from the new court filing that Jack Smith knows why Trump took and kept them in the first place.
In other words, they can prove his intent to obstruct, not necessarily his intent with the documents.
djt should be locked up for 20 years for treason
cool. however, just mishandling classified material is already a ducking crime. taking classified material, also a crime. motive is the cherry on top of a slam dunk case.
> Cohen served by Trump’s side for years and had plenty of time to study his former boss’ ticks. After the FBI first searched Mar-a-Lago for documents last year, Cohen told VICE News that he believed the most likely explanation was that Trump probably wanted to be able to use the files as political and legal bargaining chips.
> “I believe Trump held on to these classified documents as a way to extort the country and to use them as leverage in the event he is to be indicted and convicted by the DOJ,” Cohen told VICE News last year.
The man should never even be allowed to look at Pennsylvania Avenue again
Will be interested to find out motive. But from what I’ve seen of the man we can assume it was:
Refusal to accept he was not president and the desire to hold on to HIS presidential stuff.
Possible leverage (as stated)
Possible trade value to other governments.
Complete disregard for any authority but his own.
Cool shit to show people in maro largo.
I’ll believe it when Aileen Cannon recuses herself.
He planned to use them as leverage against the government.
He also insisted on (pinky to lip) one million dollars.
I love this for him! ❤️
Great, perfect, wonderful, fantastic, amazing, excellent, can we get the show on the road already? I’m tired of this goon. Lock his ass up.
As long as Cannon is the Judge he has nothing to worry about.
$2B from saudis and $1B from russians sounds like just about enough motive for me…
This article is getting people’s hopes up.
The key here IMO is to remember that absolutely everything is transactional to Donald Trump.
How is the maniac not in jail 🤣
coolcoolcool.
What the fuck do we do about Judge Cannon?
It’s obvious what a treasonous shitbag he is. How do we stop a corrupt judge from getting him off?
Who thinks Russia, China, etc… already took whatever they needed or wanted. Or is the bathroom security good enough to prevent a breach? I’d be willing to bet it has something to do with all of the US assets dying mysteriously throughout the world. Which is also the reason for the war crimes expert Smith brought in… just a hunch
Knowing how these guys work, they don’t reveal this sort of information to anyone, let alone a reporter, without having 100% proof.
Maga idiots fail to realize we’re only seeing the tip of the Jack Smith evidence iceberg.
Indeed it’s going to get much much much much worse for Trump, and when it comes out that he sold information, there will be a Republican all hands on deck movement to dig out the goalposts and move them several hundred miles downfield.
With Agent Orange it is always about money. Spoiler alert, he was trying to profit off our nation’s secrets.
I’d say “he’s just really, really stupid” is a good enough motive
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**From reporter Greg Walters:**
Ever since investigators pulled a pile of sensitive government documents out of former President Donald Trump’s infamously chandeliered bathroom, a question has loomed over the resulting criminal case: Why on Earth did Trump want those documents, anyway?
Now, prosecutors claim they have the answer and they say they’re confident they can prove it in court.
Link to the full article: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj43x/trumps-secret-documents-case-just-got-worse-for-him
The evidence made public to date is just the tip of the iceberg. What lurks below is likely massive and unyielding. Tick tock…
And what’s going to be really funny is when Jack Smith simply plays a video of Trump explaining exactly why he kept the documents.
Anybody who thinks that’s not what’s going to happen has been living under a rock since 2015.
Let me guess. He was selling access to foreign nationals and his employees are ratting him out
Too bad the Judge I Lean Qanon will keep delaying the case.
It’ll be interesting to see how the DOJ makes the case while not revealing the documents to a jury which doesn’t have security clearance. I suppose they’ll reveal some documents, but the most damage to national security would come from the most sensitive ones
I think the reporting on this is a little misleading.
The new court filing also says “But the fact is that the great majority of **the allegations in the indictment**—including allegations of the defendants’ conduct, knowledge, and **intent**—turn on evidence contained in the unclassified discovery, not the much smaller set of classified discovery.”
The indictment includes several mentions of “did corruptly conceal a record, document, and other object, and attempted to do so, **with the intent to impair the object’s integrity and availability for use in an official proceeding [the grand jury]**…”
A simple reading of the new court filing is that it states that they can prove that “Trump intended [to retain] them” to prevent a grand jury from indicting him for possessing and not returning classified documents.
It’s jumping the gun to infer from the new court filing that Jack Smith knows why Trump took and kept them in the first place.
In other words, they can prove his intent to obstruct, not necessarily his intent with the documents.
djt should be locked up for 20 years for treason
cool. however, just mishandling classified material is already a ducking crime. taking classified material, also a crime. motive is the cherry on top of a slam dunk case.
> Cohen served by Trump’s side for years and had plenty of time to study his former boss’ ticks. After the FBI first searched Mar-a-Lago for documents last year, Cohen told VICE News that he believed the most likely explanation was that Trump probably wanted to be able to use the files as political and legal bargaining chips.
> “I believe Trump held on to these classified documents as a way to extort the country and to use them as leverage in the event he is to be indicted and convicted by the DOJ,” Cohen told VICE News last year.
The man should never even be allowed to look at Pennsylvania Avenue again
Will be interested to find out motive. But from what I’ve seen of the man we can assume it was:
Refusal to accept he was not president and the desire to hold on to HIS presidential stuff.
Possible leverage (as stated)
Possible trade value to other governments.
Complete disregard for any authority but his own.
Cool shit to show people in maro largo.
I’ll believe it when Aileen Cannon recuses herself.
He planned to use them as leverage against the government.
He also insisted on (pinky to lip) one million dollars.
I love this for him! ❤️
Great, perfect, wonderful, fantastic, amazing, excellent, can we get the show on the road already? I’m tired of this goon. Lock his ass up.
As long as Cannon is the Judge he has nothing to worry about.
$2B from saudis and $1B from russians sounds like just about enough motive for me…
This article is getting people’s hopes up.
The key here IMO is to remember that absolutely everything is transactional to Donald Trump.
How is the maniac not in jail 🤣
coolcoolcool.
What the fuck do we do about Judge Cannon?
It’s obvious what a treasonous shitbag he is. How do we stop a corrupt judge from getting him off?
Who thinks Russia, China, etc… already took whatever they needed or wanted. Or is the bathroom security good enough to prevent a breach? I’d be willing to bet it has something to do with all of the US assets dying mysteriously throughout the world. Which is also the reason for the war crimes expert Smith brought in… just a hunch
Knowing how these guys work, they don’t reveal this sort of information to anyone, let alone a reporter, without having 100% proof.
Maga idiots fail to realize we’re only seeing the tip of the Jack Smith evidence iceberg.
Indeed it’s going to get much much much much worse for Trump, and when it comes out that he sold information, there will be a Republican all hands on deck movement to dig out the goalposts and move them several hundred miles downfield.
With Agent Orange it is always about money. Spoiler alert, he was trying to profit off our nation’s secrets.
I’d say “he’s just really, really stupid” is a good enough motive
Let me know when he’s in jail. That’s worse.