This does not have to be the case in a few years. The USA is going to lose most of its deterrence capacity in the next few years. Minutemans will be 50 years old when replaced, Ohio submarines 40+ years old when first Columbia commissioned. Would be a miracle if those missiles lift off when shit happens. Can be the reason why the west is so desperate to negotiate disarmament.
>Let’s go back to the analysis of military expert Konstantin Sivkov quoted above: since Russian conventional forces are insufficient, “we can solve the problem of neutralizing Europe and the United States only by physically eliminating them with our nuclear potential… The US and Europe will physically disappear. There will be almost no survivors. But we too will be destroyed. Unless the fate of Russia is better, because we have a large territory. Our opponents will not be able to destroy everything with nuclear strikes. Therefore, the percentage of the surviving population will be higher. However, Russia as a state may disappear after a large-scale nuclear war. It may fragment.”
Good news, we should be glad that deterrents are doing their job.
But we will try it anyway,
I guess this is directed at China?
So…this feels like the war in Ukraine is all but certain. They are calming global tensions around nuclear weapons prior to the expected fight.
They have no reason to issue such a statement unless they suspect the possibility of conflict happening soon between nuclear armed nations.
There is a certain lack of nuclearpowers that are considered more willing to start one though…
Hi, my name is “no one” 😎
yeah I can win this
Kinda thought that went without saying. Why does this announcement make me feel worse? Not better.
I thought we all already came to that conclusion during the Cold War. But still good to see that all still hold this belief I guess.
my god, the intellectual level of these talks are astonishing.
“Only loosers would not win a nuclear war. I am the best at nuclear wars. Everybody is saying it. I would win it and make the other countries pay for it. It would be so great and people would be talking for years about how great my nuclear war is. etc…” – take a wild guess who would say this….
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
It’s not about winning. It’s about who goes to the Paradise (Putin) and who just dies (the rest of the world).
Damn…are they getting paid for those obvious statements?
The Russian government making a statement like this could be interpreted as foreboding considering the timing, especially given the money they’ve spent in the last few years trying to convince the general public that maneuverable reentry vehicles somehow gives them an advantage in a MAD scenario.
It gives the impression they’re trying to reassure the Russian people that whatever conflict they start in the near future will not escalate so far as to result in total annihilation.
More likely though it’s just setting the stage for a bitchfit if/when we deploy conventionally armed land based cruises missiles in Europe following our withdrawal from the INF treaty after decades of Russia shitting all over it.
It is not about winning, it is about making the other side lose… i.e., if my country has already lost, and enemies’ armies are at the gate of my capital, I can make them lose too by using a nuke or two.
This is the thinking, that each nuclear “power” (looking at you Russia) wants to plant in its opponents’ minds. Don’t fuck with us, even if you win, you also lose.
MAD – mutual assured destruction is a thing.
No shit – Rest of the planet
Yeah no shit, thought that already was established
M.A.D.
ok but why dont they reduce their warheads?
Did they just figure this out 😂
I could but they didn’t invite me
If nuclear weapons cease to exist, the lack of a ‘mutually assured destruction’ of the world’s major powers will ensure that WW3 will be inevitable
Five permanent members of the United Nations
Unfortunately, as an American, I know we love entering wars we cannot win /s
Uplifting news. Means they don’t listen to the warmongers, I hope.
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Nuclear Energy is going to sky rocket in the markets. You heard it here first!
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This does not have to be the case in a few years. The USA is going to lose most of its deterrence capacity in the next few years. Minutemans will be 50 years old when replaced, Ohio submarines 40+ years old when first Columbia commissioned. Would be a miracle if those missiles lift off when shit happens. Can be the reason why the west is so desperate to negotiate disarmament.
[“Thinking Again about the Unthinkable” with Dr. Peter Vincent Pry](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44EPQo-ftg)
But everyone else can lose it together with them…
This suckers are still thinking about it
Well that leaves India, Pakistan, and North Korea who must think you can win a nuclear war….
Prove it.^^s
Not all Russians agree. [From this excellent article.](https://en.desk-russie.eu/2021/12/30/what-does-the-russian-ultimatum.html)
>Let’s go back to the analysis of military expert Konstantin Sivkov quoted above: since Russian conventional forces are insufficient, “we can solve the problem of neutralizing Europe and the United States only by physically eliminating them with our nuclear potential… The US and Europe will physically disappear. There will be almost no survivors. But we too will be destroyed. Unless the fate of Russia is better, because we have a large territory. Our opponents will not be able to destroy everything with nuclear strikes. Therefore, the percentage of the surviving population will be higher. However, Russia as a state may disappear after a large-scale nuclear war. It may fragment.”
Good news, we should be glad that deterrents are doing their job.
But we will try it anyway,
I guess this is directed at China?
So…this feels like the war in Ukraine is all but certain. They are calming global tensions around nuclear weapons prior to the expected fight.
They have no reason to issue such a statement unless they suspect the possibility of conflict happening soon between nuclear armed nations.
There is a certain lack of nuclearpowers that are considered more willing to start one though…
Hi, my name is “no one” 😎
yeah I can win this
Kinda thought that went without saying. Why does this announcement make me feel worse? Not better.
I thought we all already came to that conclusion during the Cold War. But still good to see that all still hold this belief I guess.
my god, the intellectual level of these talks are astonishing.
“Only loosers would not win a nuclear war. I am the best at nuclear wars. Everybody is saying it. I would win it and make the other countries pay for it. It would be so great and people would be talking for years about how great my nuclear war is. etc…” – take a wild guess who would say this….
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
It’s not about winning. It’s about who goes to the Paradise (Putin) and who just dies (the rest of the world).
Damn…are they getting paid for those obvious statements?
The Russian government making a statement like this could be interpreted as foreboding considering the timing, especially given the money they’ve spent in the last few years trying to convince the general public that maneuverable reentry vehicles somehow gives them an advantage in a MAD scenario.
It gives the impression they’re trying to reassure the Russian people that whatever conflict they start in the near future will not escalate so far as to result in total annihilation.
More likely though it’s just setting the stage for a bitchfit if/when we deploy conventionally armed land based cruises missiles in Europe following our withdrawal from the INF treaty after decades of Russia shitting all over it.
It is not about winning, it is about making the other side lose… i.e., if my country has already lost, and enemies’ armies are at the gate of my capital, I can make them lose too by using a nuke or two.
This is the thinking, that each nuclear “power” (looking at you Russia) wants to plant in its opponents’ minds. Don’t fuck with us, even if you win, you also lose.
MAD – mutual assured destruction is a thing.
No shit – Rest of the planet
Yeah no shit, thought that already was established
M.A.D.
ok but why dont they reduce their warheads?
Did they just figure this out 😂
I could but they didn’t invite me
If nuclear weapons cease to exist, the lack of a ‘mutually assured destruction’ of the world’s major powers will ensure that WW3 will be inevitable
Five permanent members of the United Nations
Unfortunately, as an American, I know we love entering wars we cannot win /s
Uplifting news. Means they don’t listen to the warmongers, I hope.
North Korea has entered chat
Nuclear Energy is going to sky rocket in the markets. You heard it here first!