What’s with that German fear of nuclear energy. I heard a lot of stories that it is hidden cooperation with Russia but it sounds quite conspiracy and I don’t buy the Russian agents etc to be honest. Any reliable source of knowledge in this matter?
What the fuck is going on with Germany? Shutting down nuclear reactors, turning to coal and natural gas. Sending ministers to Gazprom. Real fucking quiet when it comes to Russia and China with not a word spoken for Lithuania.
Oh but god forbid Poland or Hungary go against the wishes of Germany! Nothing but insults and bureaucratic nightmares for them. But I guess its ok for Germany.
My Gazprom stock likes this
Germany, Europe rational sharp mind. Whats going on? This has to be politics or something else I don’t understand.
Of course. Russian d… Is so deep they can’t even pull it out anymore 😂😂😂
Please German bros, let us have the atome power !
Our nuclear phase out has been planned for 10 years. Our reliance on natural gas as a transition technology has been planned since at least 4 years. I don’t get why this still gets posted here.
Natural gas from Russia. Just waiting for Angela Merkel to get a job with a Russian oil company. Just like former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and former French PM François Fillon, who has just gotten one.
We are going to build nuclear reactors close to the German border anyway. French will do the same on the other side so what is the point?
– The entire west trying to manage the aggressive bear trying to get over Ukraine.
– Germany proceeds to put their head further inside the bear’s mouth.
Why not ditch both nuclear and gas…..and start putting on every roof solar panels and wind turbines on every hill?
I wonder if this could be avoided if they just billed stuff like gas and nuclear as ‘yellow energy’? Like, it’s better than coal or oil, it will help us get to our goals… but it is not an optimal solution.
God damn fucking moronic idiots.
They just can’t help themselves from bending over and spreading their ass cheeks for russia huh?
You cant extract oil without getting gas into thr system, the same way you cant drink soda without letting the gas get out of the bottle.
Now, with that factor above in mind. What do you do when the oil platform/rig get gas, do you let it go up in thin air? Means anyone at site can be exposed to a giant bomb, or do you burn it in a controlled manner? Yes, you do burn it.
Now, how much gas does EU use? 32% of Eu’s energy come from gas. How much does oil rig burns? Enough to power the entire africa.
Now, did EU label gas as green or green transition?, yes, it got labeled as green transition!
Why? Because EU will do like Norway, forbidd burning gas, make pipeline to take advantage of the energy rather then let it just burn up. That means we will have less oil and more gas.
Think about this. Which one is most climate friendly.
A) oil rig that only supply 100% oil and burns the rest 30% energy (gas).
B) oil rig that export 70% oil and 30% gas, so they dont need to waste that energy at site.
Yes, B is more climate friendly. How?. The same was as it would be more climate friendly that your neighbor give you free gas for your house rather then see him stay in the garden trying to burn it away, when you are dependent on oil. If the neighbor stop burn the gas, and share it with you, then you dont need the oil, which means less co2 emission and both get the energy supply needed.
The world burns more gas then they use. Therefor gas is transitional green, as its allow ous to reduce co2 emission and at the same time, give ous time to move slowly and safely to green energy. Gas is the connecting bridge from oil industries to net zero emission goal. Wake the fuck up.
The main argument is not that gas release less co2 for the same energy as oil, well, its true. BUT the main argument is based on reducing wasting the energy gas.
Sweden closed 6 uranium powerplant, and germany’s goal was to close 17 before 2022. A goal set back when japan was struck by earthquack. Thorium power plant is the way to go, a technology that we soon have. Anyway, we shouldnt have closed nuclear powerplant
>Germany’s government on Monday rejected the European Union’s
proposals to include nuclear energy in the bloc’s climate-focused plans
and investments for the future. Instead, the European nation plans to
lean heavily on natural gas as an energy source until it can transition
to other sources that won’t pollute the environment.
This is the first parapragh in the article. Up to 20% gas in the power mix during the transtion period ofer the next 10-20 years is “relying heavily on gas”? The article is written in a way to make the reader believe Germany intends to increase its CO2/kWh in the short term, which is not the case. If the current government is successful, in 10 years the German power mix could be as clean the french.
The title is misleading. The main point of contention in the German government is the inclusion of natural gas as sustainable. Some ministers of the green party have also raised concerns for nuclear being dangerous.
It’s a complex issue and unfortunately I don’t see this mirrored in this comment section. I myself haven’t made up my mind whether I think investing more in nuclear power for a transitional period is a good idea or not. However, so many people on here talk as if they are fucking nuclear or climate change scientists. Lot’s of claims that aren’t backed up by sources and comparisons that do not make any sense.
Please France, you need to become ” the new Germany ” we as European, should follow you on the energy plan for the future.
France and the Netherlands going for nuclear while Germany goes for gas? Whats happening?
I wander how Germany would work if you remove coal and gas… renewable wont cut it to power their industries and the 80 millions people. They need energy independance and something to carry the load when its night and no wind.
Funny how the scientific study used to see CO2 impact of nuclear energy is way lower than Natural Gas. Also 4th generation Nuclear Plants might be able to use nuclear waste as fuel. On top of this, land and biodiversity impacts of nuclear plants is way lower than solar for example. I mean, if they can reduce drastically CO2 emissions, dependencies and costs for the next 10 to 20 years until other sources can take over securely then why not?
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German Politicians: ^^^^🧠
Germany and gas, name a more iconic duo.
What’s with that German fear of nuclear energy. I heard a lot of stories that it is hidden cooperation with Russia but it sounds quite conspiracy and I don’t buy the Russian agents etc to be honest. Any reliable source of knowledge in this matter?
What the fuck is going on with Germany? Shutting down nuclear reactors, turning to coal and natural gas. Sending ministers to Gazprom. Real fucking quiet when it comes to Russia and China with not a word spoken for Lithuania.
Oh but god forbid Poland or Hungary go against the wishes of Germany! Nothing but insults and bureaucratic nightmares for them. But I guess its ok for Germany.
My Gazprom stock likes this
Germany, Europe rational sharp mind. Whats going on? This has to be politics or something else I don’t understand.
Of course. Russian d… Is so deep they can’t even pull it out anymore 😂😂😂
Please German bros, let us have the atome power !
Our nuclear phase out has been planned for 10 years. Our reliance on natural gas as a transition technology has been planned since at least 4 years. I don’t get why this still gets posted here.
Natural gas from Russia. Just waiting for Angela Merkel to get a job with a Russian oil company. Just like former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and former French PM François Fillon, who has just gotten one.
We are going to build nuclear reactors close to the German border anyway. French will do the same on the other side so what is the point?
– The entire west trying to manage the aggressive bear trying to get over Ukraine.
– Germany proceeds to put their head further inside the bear’s mouth.
Why not ditch both nuclear and gas…..and start putting on every roof solar panels and wind turbines on every hill?
I wonder if this could be avoided if they just billed stuff like gas and nuclear as ‘yellow energy’? Like, it’s better than coal or oil, it will help us get to our goals… but it is not an optimal solution.
God damn fucking moronic idiots.
They just can’t help themselves from bending over and spreading their ass cheeks for russia huh?
You cant extract oil without getting gas into thr system, the same way you cant drink soda without letting the gas get out of the bottle.
Now, with that factor above in mind. What do you do when the oil platform/rig get gas, do you let it go up in thin air? Means anyone at site can be exposed to a giant bomb, or do you burn it in a controlled manner? Yes, you do burn it.
Now, how much gas does EU use? 32% of Eu’s energy come from gas. How much does oil rig burns? Enough to power the entire africa.
Now, did EU label gas as green or green transition?, yes, it got labeled as green transition!
Why? Because EU will do like Norway, forbidd burning gas, make pipeline to take advantage of the energy rather then let it just burn up. That means we will have less oil and more gas.
Think about this. Which one is most climate friendly.
A) oil rig that only supply 100% oil and burns the rest 30% energy (gas).
B) oil rig that export 70% oil and 30% gas, so they dont need to waste that energy at site.
Yes, B is more climate friendly. How?. The same was as it would be more climate friendly that your neighbor give you free gas for your house rather then see him stay in the garden trying to burn it away, when you are dependent on oil. If the neighbor stop burn the gas, and share it with you, then you dont need the oil, which means less co2 emission and both get the energy supply needed.
The world burns more gas then they use. Therefor gas is transitional green, as its allow ous to reduce co2 emission and at the same time, give ous time to move slowly and safely to green energy. Gas is the connecting bridge from oil industries to net zero emission goal. Wake the fuck up.
The main argument is not that gas release less co2 for the same energy as oil, well, its true. BUT the main argument is based on reducing wasting the energy gas.
Sweden closed 6 uranium powerplant, and germany’s goal was to close 17 before 2022. A goal set back when japan was struck by earthquack. Thorium power plant is the way to go, a technology that we soon have. Anyway, we shouldnt have closed nuclear powerplant
>Germany’s government on Monday rejected the European Union’s
proposals to include nuclear energy in the bloc’s climate-focused plans
and investments for the future. Instead, the European nation plans to
lean heavily on natural gas as an energy source until it can transition
to other sources that won’t pollute the environment.
This is the first parapragh in the article. Up to 20% gas in the power mix during the transtion period ofer the next 10-20 years is “relying heavily on gas”? The article is written in a way to make the reader believe Germany intends to increase its CO2/kWh in the short term, which is not the case. If the current government is successful, in 10 years the German power mix could be as clean the french.
The title is misleading. The main point of contention in the German government is the inclusion of natural gas as sustainable. Some ministers of the green party have also raised concerns for nuclear being dangerous.
A more reliable source (in English)
https://m.dw.com/en/german-government-struggles-to-unite-on-eu-energy-proposal/a-60319292
A different perspective from Politico (covers EU politics): “Germany downplays coalition anger over ‘dangerous’ EU nuclear push. Berlin won’t join any legal action against Brussels over its sustainable investment criteria.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-reject-eu-nuclear-energy-dangerous/
It’s a complex issue and unfortunately I don’t see this mirrored in this comment section. I myself haven’t made up my mind whether I think investing more in nuclear power for a transitional period is a good idea or not. However, so many people on here talk as if they are fucking nuclear or climate change scientists. Lot’s of claims that aren’t backed up by sources and comparisons that do not make any sense.
Please France, you need to become ” the new Germany ” we as European, should follow you on the energy plan for the future.
France and the Netherlands going for nuclear while Germany goes for gas? Whats happening?
I wander how Germany would work if you remove coal and gas… renewable wont cut it to power their industries and the 80 millions people. They need energy independance and something to carry the load when its night and no wind.
Funny how the scientific study used to see CO2 impact of nuclear energy is way lower than Natural Gas. Also 4th generation Nuclear Plants might be able to use nuclear waste as fuel. On top of this, land and biodiversity impacts of nuclear plants is way lower than solar for example. I mean, if they can reduce drastically CO2 emissions, dependencies and costs for the next 10 to 20 years until other sources can take over securely then why not?
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