> There’s an old saying that Congress has two types of members — work horses and show horses. Speakers usually come from the ranks of the former, working their way up through the leadership as they learn the delicate arts of handholding, vote counting, and the delicate balance of rewards and punishments to a collection of oversized egos.
>Which is why Jordan’s bid for the speakership is preposterous. He’s the ultimate show horse. He has never served in the House leadership. The very idea of him carefully assembling votes to pass a difficult bill is farcical. In 16 years in Congress, he has been the primary sponsor of just a few dozen bills. Aside from a pair expressing “the sense of the House” and one establishing the absurd Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, the number of Jordan-sponsored bills that became law is precisely *zero.*
>The closest comparison to a Jordan speakership would be that of Newt Gingrich.
Jordan has other glaring issues, including the accusation he turned a blind eye to abuse as a college wrestling coach, and his deep involvement in plotting with Trump to overturn the 2020 election. In a rational political party, either would have instantly disqualified him. But the biggest problem with imagining Jordan as speaker is that he is one of the primary avatars of the contemporary Republican political style: eager to kneecap government, allergic to any hint of compromise, committed to conflict for its own sake and happy to create crisis after crisis.
>In recent years the dynamic between Republican speakers and the people Jordan represents has been one that toggles between uneasy alliance and outright hostility, with the far right creating disorder and the speaker eventually pulling back when things go too far, often by joining with Democrats to end or prevent a shutdown or debt default. That’s what McCarthy did last month, and it cost him the speakership. He and other recent Republican speakers — Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Dennis Hastert — were plenty conservative, but they also had a limit to the amount of chaos they were willing to tolerate. There’s little reason to think Jordan has such a limit.
>In that way, the closest comparison to a Jordan speakership would be that of Newt Gingrich, whose speaker tenure from 1995 to 1999 was disastrous for both the Republican Party and the country. Gingrich had grandiose visions but struggled mightily in running the House. He engineered multiple government shutdowns, impeached Bill Clinton over an extramarital affair (while having an extramarital affair of his own), oversaw a disastrous midterm election, and perhaps most important of all, injected a new kind of poisonous, no-holds-barred partisanship into American politics.
> Gingrich was the progenitor of the kind of politics Jim Jordan embodies, and which most of the Republican Party has adopted as its own. But Jordan is still a long way from the 217 votes he needs to become speaker; in the internal Republican vote to nominate a candidate Friday, Jordan received only 124 votes against Rep. Austin Scott of Georgia, who had entered the race only hours earlier. In a second “validation vote,” asking members how many Republicans would vote for him on the floor, 55 still voted no. Some have since come around, but if Jordan loses only five votes when the full House votes on Tuesday, he fails.
> But Jordan’s supporters, in Congress and on the air, are not giving up. Maybe if he loses the floor vote, they’ll storm the Capitol. It would be only fitting.
If they elect this man Speaker of the House…just despicable.
I see a slowly chirping smoke detector. And it’s dying 9-volt battery.
Charisma mainly
And that’s exactly why he’s their nominee.
I’m excited by a Jordan speakership.
This total ass-hat has spent his whole time in congress just shitting on everyone and everything.
Now he will need to manage some f’n hard budget negotiations within 30 days. It will be a debacle and he will be revealed to be a complete blowhard.
He lacks proper jacket, not being an adjudicated accomplice to sexual assault and not having participated in a coup. Those are a few big things to consider.
Including votes. At this point either candidate would be MaCcarthy again
Electing Jordan is just another step towards the destruction of our Republic. The wing that engineered his potential election to the third highest office in our country is open about their goal of using institutionalized chaos as the means to subvert the current democratic system of government and replace it with a single party authoritarian government that uses the full force of the state to impart their version of society on everybody.
Sort of like diarrhea the speaks, seems very on brand for republicans
So did McCarthy lol. There can be no competent governance in a republican-controlled House.
The best thing we can do is vote for a blue wave in 2024
He’s probably the worst person for the job so of course he’s the front runner for republicans.
He gets more and more depressing looking each day. He looks like a homeless man who has been given his first clean clothes in months. Big “alcoholic dad who has cleaned up his act and wants to give your relationship another shot” vibes.
And he’s ugly!
“Examining the morals of a Nazi? Media normalizes the Republican war on democracy and the United States”
he seems like an asshole and a bully. Two traits the maga crowd seem to love.
hopefully that list includes votes
Let’s see the shit show!!!
He’s got the abuse pedigree, in line with Hastert.
Headline: “Jim Jordan lacks everything he’d need to lead as House Speaker.”
Republicans: “Perfect”
But no seriously…the entire party basically wants the government to be inoperable at this point to make way for autocracy.
To us he lacks everything to be speaker, but most of us still assume America follows the Constitution when in fact, we’re witnessing the beginnings of a fascist dictatorship. In that regard, Gym has everything Trump needs to help him seize power permanently – namely Gym most certainly would not certify the election if Biden won, and he supports the overthrow of the Federal Government. So for MAGA, he’s the right nan for the job
And Grump so: That‘s my man!
I don’t think he’s going to make it. Honestly I don’t know who the GOP has without McCarthy who can pull this off.
If the GOP had someone better than McCarthy for getting all the Republican factions behind him for that narrow of a lead they would have used that person by now. McCarthy was the best shot they had and their extremists blew it for them.
So what? Trump lacked everything needed to be POTUS, but was still elected. Being able to do the job doesn’t matter anymore.
No shit. Thx for the clarity.
But he protects child molesters so the GOP want him.
Gym is a traitor, how is this even being considered?
Just let him have it already he deserves….. to go to prison
Including the votes
So… intelligence, a spine and an ability to effectively communicate with others?
Brain, heart and spine? He’s basically an amoeba at this point.
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Braincells?
> There’s an old saying that Congress has two types of members — work horses and show horses. Speakers usually come from the ranks of the former, working their way up through the leadership as they learn the delicate arts of handholding, vote counting, and the delicate balance of rewards and punishments to a collection of oversized egos.
>Which is why Jordan’s bid for the speakership is preposterous. He’s the ultimate show horse. He has never served in the House leadership. The very idea of him carefully assembling votes to pass a difficult bill is farcical. In 16 years in Congress, he has been the primary sponsor of just a few dozen bills. Aside from a pair expressing “the sense of the House” and one establishing the absurd Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, the number of Jordan-sponsored bills that became law is precisely *zero.*
>The closest comparison to a Jordan speakership would be that of Newt Gingrich.
Jordan has other glaring issues, including the accusation he turned a blind eye to abuse as a college wrestling coach, and his deep involvement in plotting with Trump to overturn the 2020 election. In a rational political party, either would have instantly disqualified him. But the biggest problem with imagining Jordan as speaker is that he is one of the primary avatars of the contemporary Republican political style: eager to kneecap government, allergic to any hint of compromise, committed to conflict for its own sake and happy to create crisis after crisis.
>In recent years the dynamic between Republican speakers and the people Jordan represents has been one that toggles between uneasy alliance and outright hostility, with the far right creating disorder and the speaker eventually pulling back when things go too far, often by joining with Democrats to end or prevent a shutdown or debt default. That’s what McCarthy did last month, and it cost him the speakership. He and other recent Republican speakers — Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Dennis Hastert — were plenty conservative, but they also had a limit to the amount of chaos they were willing to tolerate. There’s little reason to think Jordan has such a limit.
>In that way, the closest comparison to a Jordan speakership would be that of Newt Gingrich, whose speaker tenure from 1995 to 1999 was disastrous for both the Republican Party and the country. Gingrich had grandiose visions but struggled mightily in running the House. He engineered multiple government shutdowns, impeached Bill Clinton over an extramarital affair (while having an extramarital affair of his own), oversaw a disastrous midterm election, and perhaps most important of all, injected a new kind of poisonous, no-holds-barred partisanship into American politics.
> Gingrich was the progenitor of the kind of politics Jim Jordan embodies, and which most of the Republican Party has adopted as its own. But Jordan is still a long way from the 217 votes he needs to become speaker; in the internal Republican vote to nominate a candidate Friday, Jordan received only 124 votes against Rep. Austin Scott of Georgia, who had entered the race only hours earlier. In a second “validation vote,” asking members how many Republicans would vote for him on the floor, 55 still voted no. Some have since come around, but if Jordan loses only five votes when the full House votes on Tuesday, he fails.
> But Jordan’s supporters, in Congress and on the air, are not giving up. Maybe if he loses the floor vote, they’ll storm the Capitol. It would be only fitting.
If they elect this man Speaker of the House…just despicable.
I see a slowly chirping smoke detector. And it’s dying 9-volt battery.
Charisma mainly
And that’s exactly why he’s their nominee.
I’m excited by a Jordan speakership.
This total ass-hat has spent his whole time in congress just shitting on everyone and everything.
Now he will need to manage some f’n hard budget negotiations within 30 days. It will be a debacle and he will be revealed to be a complete blowhard.
He lacks proper jacket, not being an adjudicated accomplice to sexual assault and not having participated in a coup. Those are a few big things to consider.
Including votes. At this point either candidate would be MaCcarthy again
Electing Jordan is just another step towards the destruction of our Republic. The wing that engineered his potential election to the third highest office in our country is open about their goal of using institutionalized chaos as the means to subvert the current democratic system of government and replace it with a single party authoritarian government that uses the full force of the state to impart their version of society on everybody.
Sort of like diarrhea the speaks, seems very on brand for republicans
So did McCarthy lol. There can be no competent governance in a republican-controlled House.
The best thing we can do is vote for a blue wave in 2024
https://democrats.org/
He’s probably the worst person for the job so of course he’s the front runner for republicans.
He gets more and more depressing looking each day. He looks like a homeless man who has been given his first clean clothes in months. Big “alcoholic dad who has cleaned up his act and wants to give your relationship another shot” vibes.
And he’s ugly!
“Examining the morals of a Nazi? Media normalizes the Republican war on democracy and the United States”
he seems like an asshole and a bully. Two traits the maga crowd seem to love.
hopefully that list includes votes
Let’s see the shit show!!!
He’s got the abuse pedigree, in line with Hastert.
Headline: “Jim Jordan lacks everything he’d need to lead as House Speaker.”
Republicans: “Perfect”
But no seriously…the entire party basically wants the government to be inoperable at this point to make way for autocracy.
To us he lacks everything to be speaker, but most of us still assume America follows the Constitution when in fact, we’re witnessing the beginnings of a fascist dictatorship. In that regard, Gym has everything Trump needs to help him seize power permanently – namely Gym most certainly would not certify the election if Biden won, and he supports the overthrow of the Federal Government. So for MAGA, he’s the right nan for the job
And Grump so: That‘s my man!
I don’t think he’s going to make it. Honestly I don’t know who the GOP has without McCarthy who can pull this off.
If the GOP had someone better than McCarthy for getting all the Republican factions behind him for that narrow of a lead they would have used that person by now. McCarthy was the best shot they had and their extremists blew it for them.
So what? Trump lacked everything needed to be POTUS, but was still elected. Being able to do the job doesn’t matter anymore.
No shit. Thx for the clarity.
But he protects child molesters so the GOP want him.
Gym is a traitor, how is this even being considered?
Just let him have it already he deserves….. to go to prison
Including the votes
So… intelligence, a spine and an ability to effectively communicate with others?
Brain, heart and spine? He’s basically an amoeba at this point.
Brains. Morals. A jacket