Israel veröffentlicht „Audioaufnahmen von Hamas-Aktivisten, die über einen gescheiterten Raketenstart sprechen“ und ein Video, das die am Himmel explodierende Rakete zeigt, kurz bevor die Explosion Hunderte im Krankenhaus in Gaza tötete

by PoolOpening6090

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  1. They couldn’t detect 1000+ terrorists moving in and blowing up the walls, but they found audio footage in a warzone were almost nothing works including cell phones. This is embarrassing.

  2. Evidence is overwhelming that it was a failed rocket that was fired at Israel. Cheers

  4. The thing is people hear “Israel-Hamas” war and thinks palestinians are 3rd party of unrelated casualties. But Gaza officials *ARE* Hamas! So “by palestinians” is actually “by hamas”.

  5. I understand skepticism of what Israel says, but there should at least be equal skepticism from anything coming from fucking Hamas

  7. So when is the EU going to send letters threatening to block all the media outlets that reported this? Oh, they aren’t? How convenient.

  8. Copied from another user:

    IDF: Following the briefing by the IDF Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari on the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization that hit the hospital in Gaza City:

    Attached is the briefing: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC1810202362

    Attached is a recording of a conversation between Hamas operatives regarding the Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch on the hospital on October 17, 2023: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/e67ae402-79e2-4e8c-a6a5-d32da01ccf80

    Attached is a visual analysis following the IAF’s examination on the subject: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC1810156854

    Attached is an infographic of all the failed rocket launches in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/1810202309876543672

    Attached is a photograph from the IDF launch identification system on the subject: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC18102023984

    Here’s a more readable investigation, in short: it was a Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1714376384464736653

  10. It didn’t kill hundreds lmao

    It blew up a car park.

  11. So the hospital wasn’t destroyed (the building wasn’t even hit), and it was a rocket fired from within Gaza. Seems quite unlikely that 500 people were killed. Take an L on yesterday’s reporting, media outlets.

  12. None of the major news sites are ever going to say “Hamas responsible for Hospital blast” – they just can’t. Its always IDF says and Hamas says. The evidence is clear as day.

  13. Where are all the protests against terrorists now? Where is the outrage against Hamas/Islamic Jihad? Why so quiet Arab world? Where is Irelands response? No one eh… shocker.

  15. So how do they obtain such audio yet they never picked up on any audio that involved Hamas’ attack? Surely there must’ve been some chatter beforehand.

  16. So many israel haters and radical islam supporters here lmfao.. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

  17. Thus far, the only evidence presented by the Palestinians is a deleted tweet and videos of random fathers running around holding their dead children. I’m going with Israel on this.

  18. Tbf we’ve seen what Israeli airstrikes do to buildings, they shatter them leaving only piles of rocks, it’s not even close to that here

    So weird of newspapers and political figures (at least in my country but probably everywhere else) jumping on that story

  20. The sad thing is that although there are countless evidence for a Hamas rocket misfire at their own hospital, some Redditors will still side with the Hamas, a terrorist organisation that shoots rockets to a general population with means of killing as many Israelis as possible. What a sad world we live in.

  21. Don’t confuse us with facts
    I take Hamas words, they have repeatedly proven themselves as honest, trustworthy, peaceful group of people.

  22. Can’t wait for all the apologies from the bone head world leaders that were fucking quick to blame Israel based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

  23. Wait, this is impossible. r/news was certain it was Israel.

  24. I thought the rockets Hamas used were cheap ones that were typically armed with ball bearings in their warheads, pretty much anti-personnel. The heaviest Qassam rocket only weighs 50 kg total, their other rockets are pretty much similar size I believe. Over twenty years and tens of thousands of rockets they had barely killed 50 people and most of that seems to be pure luck.

    The other issue is the body count, the claim was that over 2,000 people were sheltering at the hospital and this would have likely been at an underground bomb shelter. Would the shelter have been under one of the parking areas?

  25. All the reports about 500+ killed and the bomb stink of Hamas propaganda, probably nothing of that

  26. Look, I’m not putting this past Hamas, but TRUST US NOT THEM is going to be a reoccurring theme.

    We’re reaching a point with technology where words and pictures aren’t going to be enough.

  27. As someone said to me on another post, what we should all be able to agree on is the media dropping the ball hard on this one.

  28. Damn with all these reports coming out and pics it seems it was a rocket from HAMAS. But guess what, LA Times just posted an article on their papers and its saying exactly what HAMAS put out, I guess they didn’t want to wait and see what happened they just had a headline and ran with it.

    If I see a gigantic crater from a JDAM I’ll believe it was Israel until then it could be Hamas and their homemade rockets

  29. I have no idea what to believe at this point – I’ve never seen Reddit so divided on something

  30. Already too late. Hamas turned a failed rocket launch into a huge propaganda success. The amount of people I saw here on reddit taking the word of Hamas at face value is sickening.

    And are those people retracting their statements? Nah. They don’t give a shit whether people died or not, just as long as Israel looks bad

  31. Everyone on here outraged a couple hours ago about Israel bombing a hospital, now it’s like everyone knew it was hamas the whole time. Both sides are obviously engaging in propaganda, is it so hard to realize?

  32. Can we please figure out how to get a terrorist organization (Hamas) out of the picture so we can make some damn progress on allowing Palestine to be its own country AND make said country safe for Israelis?

    I know Iran wouldn’t like that, but this is just insane for the decades it’s been going on.

  33. ? i thought we learned there were not hundreds of casualties?

    oh it’s the daily mail

  34. The “Hamas operatives” in the audio are speaking very calmly as if they are not under constant bombing and brink of ground offensive. They are also polite enough to always let the other finish speaking before having their say.

  35. How well should i trust what the Daily Mail reports? (A serious question)

  36. LOL a phone conversation is their proof? I call BULLSHIT, Israel fucking did it.

  37. Am I the only one who remembers MH17 and how russians claimed they downed Ukrainian war plane only to discover later it was not?

  38. Israel should flood Palestine with aid, medicine, food, water. You have to show these people an alternative to supporting butchers like Hamas. Bombing will never work.

  40. How come thousands of rockets hitting Israel barely hurting Israelis, but one failed rocket kills hundreds in Gaza?

  41. That can’t be used as proof.. audio?.. even AI can produce that audio..

  43. IDF stages a phone call and suddenly this whole sub is kneeling down slobbering on Israeli cock

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