Hamas fordert Angriffe auf Israelis; Die arabische Welt ignoriert die israelischen Behauptungen zur Krankenhausexplosion und wirft ihnen „Massaker“ vor, obwohl die IDF umfangreiche Beweise dafür veröffentlicht hat, dass ein irrtümlicher palästinensischer Raketenbeschuss den Parkplatz von Al-Ahli getroffen hat

by OwlyTarnished

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  2. Here are the facts as I could find them (Most of this is copied from other sources):

    IDF: Following the briefing by the IDF Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari on the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization that hit the hospital in Gaza City:

    Attached is the briefing: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC1810202362

    Attached is a recording of a conversation between Hamas operatives regarding the Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch on the hospital on October 17, 2023: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/e67ae402-79e2-4e8c-a6a5-d32da01ccf80

    Attached is a visual analysis following the IAF’s examination on the subject: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC1810156854

    Attached is an infographic of all the failed rocket launches in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/1810202309876543672

    Attached is a photograph from the IDF launch identification system on the subject: https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC18102023984

    Here’s a more readable investigation, in short: it was a Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch: https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1714376384464736653

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    **Israel was accused by:** President of Egypt, king of Jordan, President of Syria, President of Cuba, government of Iraq, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Turkey, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Venezuela, Head of the African Union Commission, The President of Iran said that the United States bears responsibility along with Israel.

    **Not directly accused but highly implied it:** Head of EU diplomacy, President of France, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Spain (Also pledged 1M Euro that will obviously go directly into the hands of the people in control of Gaza… Hamas), British Foreign Office, Japanese Foreign Ministry. The UN (Naturally, they don’t need a reason to [blame](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8lv_T4asAAAI-n?format=jpg&name=large) Israel), Russia.

    **In the [news](https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1714409021992521983/photo/1):** CNN, Wsj, Al Jazeera (Not really news but I’ll include), BBC, AP, The New York Times and many more.

    About the millions of comments made against Israel in social media I don’t feel like I need to say much.

    There were also riots in many countries including throwing molotovs on Synagogues in [Berlin](https://apnews.com/article/germany-berlin-synagogue-antisemitism-fdd10f32f7d5efc6da973f00c9a8b030) (“Anti-Zionism is not Antisemticm”), riots in Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey and much more.

    And I have only one question for those rioting, THE ATTACK DID HAPPEN, just not by Israel. If you care about Palestinian lives, why are you not rioting against the real attackers now that we know who they are? **Unless the goal was never about the Palestinian people and always against the people of Israel?**

  3. We are rapidly approaching the end of chances for talks. Arab world, think carefully. You do not have the means to create the world you think you want.

  4. Yes everyone Gaza’s ISIS is your only reliable source of info. Please heed their message

  5. TimesOfIsrael? I asking because I genuinely don’t know…. But is that an unbiased source?

  7. But there’s more to the story. Just the fact that the trajectory of the projectile was over the hospital means that terrorists even if they don’t target directly hospitals, they place such protected objects on the path of an eventual fire return, which means they wilfully endanger their own most vulnerable.

    All the while claiming war crimes on the side of IDF.

  8. The Arab world is totally infested with hatred against Jews. Decades of brainwashing by their schools, media and religious institutions have created a huge amount of anti-Semitism in the population and in the leadership too. I think the West should impose sanctions on countries that continue to spread hatred against Jews.

  9. There has been a surge of extremist incidents across Europe with France being the latest today with 6 airport bomb threats.

    Unfortunately things may become more unstable

  10. Meanwhile multiple subs are showing child victims from the « Israeli hospital bombing »

    The misinformation is terrible. Multiple accounts and subs need to be banned.

  12. Alternative title: Terrorist sympathizers support terrorism and hate that they border a democracy.

  13. The readiness of international media organisations to label this as an ‘Israeli airstrike’ within moments of Hamas (of all fucking people) declaring it, and pouring fuel on the fire which led to mass demonstrations, attacks on embassies and Arab leaders torpedoing a summit with the US President is utterly embarrassing.

    These organisations have responsibilities to verify their information before they plaster it across their news networks, and they failed miserably in that regard yesterday, instead choosing to parrot a Hamas claim without waiting to check the evidence from the scene themselves.

  14. People are sadly too bought in to their “side” now unfortunately. It’s clearly a misfired / malfunctioned rocket and people either hate Israel or don’t want to be wrong, or both, so they won’t admit it for the most part.

  16. Doesn’t matter how much evidence you show them. They’ll never stop hating “the Jews”.

  17. Arab world is fucking racist and for whatever reason the western world ignores that completely

  18. The Palestinians and their supporters are used to being propagandized, they cant tell it apart from reality any more. And the media does everything they can to help that.

    >On April 7, senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat suggested to CNN that some 500 Palestinians had been killed in the camp. Five days later, when the fighting stopped, PA Secretary Ahmed Abdel Rahman told UPI that the number was in the thousands, hinting, along with other Palestinian figures, that Israel had snatched bodies, buried Palestinians in mass graves and under the rubble of ruined buildings, and otherwise conducted on a scale compatible with genocide.”
    Stories of hundreds of civilians being killed in their homes as they were demolished spread throughout international media.[8] Subsequent investigations found no evidence to substantiate claims of a massacre, and official totals from Palestinian and Israeli sources confirmed between 52 and 54 Palestinians, including civilians, and 23 IDF soldiers as having been killed in the fighting.[9][10][11][12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jenin_(2002)

  19. If there ever was a shred of chance for a cease fire, it’s all gone by now. Hamas made sure to bury it themself.

  20. I remain disturbed by the amount of terrorist apologists and sympathizers here on Reddit that presumably reside in the U.S.

    I realize we have white power groups all over ever marching saying “Jews will not replace us” but how mainstream this is becoming is frightening

  21. Muslims looking for any excuse to murder Jews in cold blood. Disgusting anti-Semitism based on lies.

  22. A note to anyone going to “pro-Palestinian” protests, if you hear people singing “Khaybar Khaybar ya Yahud” they’re celebrating genocide against Jews. It’s a reference to Jews [genocided](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar) by Muslims in Khaybar, modern day Saudi Arabia. The people who sing that are certainly in support of hamas, PIJ, or something similar, which are all basically ISIS.

  23. The scary thing is Hamas messaging is actually getting through to some redditors

  25. hamas shoots rockets at israel, hospital is in the trajectory, rocket misfires and falls on hospital
    hamas is like “goddamn israelis!”
    lol

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