>Tlaib also slammed President Joe Biden for his support for Israel’s actions since the Hamas terrorist attack.
>”To my president, to our president … I want him to know, as a Palestinian American and somebody in Muslim faith, I’m not going to forget this. And I think a lot of people are not going to forget this,” Tlaib said.
Some wild shit for a Representative to be saying.
Well surely Biden will now attack her on social media and call her a DINO
Oh, wait…
I’m rather unimpressed with her right now
> “The American Jewish community in my district, and all of you here. I just know how much courage it’s taken to speak up. Many of you have been targeted. You’re being gas lit. Some people are losing their jobs. Folks are getting events canceled. Literally, their First Amendment right wiped away for standing up and saying that children deserve to live. It is literally inhumane for my colleagues to allow that to continue and say nothing,” Tlaib said.
I am more used to hearing this from the right but it is equally exhausting here. First amendment gone says person who is currently expressing themselves under the protection of the first amendment. Free speech does not mean you are free from consequences.
Regardless I do wish her call for a ceasefire was heard or was being called for by people who have a more reasonable position on this conflict. The world can use a break from horrible violence. It is just so hard to be optimistic at this point. Historically, much more reasonable leaders have tried and failed to find a peaceful solution. The idea that Bibi and Hamas can find a peaceful resolution seems impossible.
edit: thank you to the kind user who sent the reddit care resources my way…nice to know you care!
Useless rep. She exists solely to further her own interest
Edit I got a Reddit cares which means somebody disagrees but cannot post factual evidence
I cannot stand her. Get her the fuck out next election
and there’s comms of ~~Hamas~~ Islamic Jihad saying “oops, it is ours” right after it happened
Tragic that the legacy of the first muslims elected to congress just ended up being a legacy of terrorist sympathy.
Primary her
Edit: thanks for the Reddit Cares message, asshole
> “We will remember where you stood”
Yup, I certainly will remember where Biden stood: Calm, level-headedness, and critical thinking that values accuracy over misinformation & clout. Thank goodness he’s not a reactionary nor a social media clout chaser.
“The Squad” brand has been ruined.
I’m embarrassed by her as a Democrat. Hamas told you who they are and if you don’t clean them out it’s a guarantee that their murdering will happen again.
As a moderate Democrat, I say no double standards, she is just as wacky as the MAGA extremist Republicans, get her the hell out of the house.
Nothing about the 200 slaughtered at the music festival.
lefty liberal here – vote her out
It’s the fact that she’s doubling down on her misinformation once it was proven to be wrong that’s most troubling.
I get it, she is a Palestinian American in a heavily Muslim district, so it would be tough for her to just stand by and blindly support Biden who himself is in full support Israel. But, she also needs to represent the facts and NOT sow division in the Democratic Party. Elections are too important to seed any ground to right under any circumstance. Also, Biden is literally the reason that residents of Gaza are getting any kind of aid right now. It is fine to be upset with him now, but in a year from now you need to be supporting him.
I hope she gets primaried. I don’t want this in my democratic party
She makes progressives all over the world look bad.
>Statement on Behalf of Israel-based Progressives and Peace Activists
Regarding Debates over Recent Events in Our Region:
>We, Israel-based academics, thought leaders and progressive activists committed to peace, equality, justice, and human rights, are deeply pained and shocked by the recent events in our region. We are also deeply concerned by the inadequate response from certain American and European progressives regarding the targeting of Israeli civilians by Hamas, a response which reflects a disturbing trend in the global left’s political culture.
>On October 7, 2023, Hamas launched an unprecedented attack that included mass murder of innocent civilians in their homes, indiscriminate violence towards women, the elderly, and children, and mass kidnappings of Israeli citizens. Entire families were wiped out in this carnage, whole communities were reduced to ashes, bodies were maimed, infants were massacred. It is impossible to overstate the damage caused by these events, both on a personal and a collective level. The traumatizing events of that Saturday in October will leave a lasting mark on our hearts and memories.
>As expected, in response to Hamas’s actions, the State of Israel launched a massive military operation in Gaza. We still cannot estimate the death toll of these attacks, but it is likely to be higher than anything we have witnessed heretofore. This cycle of aggression severely undermines our long-standing struggle against oppression and violence and in pursuit of full rights and equality for all residents of Israel-Palestine. At this moment, more than ever, we need support and solidarity from the global left, in the form of an unequivocal call against indiscriminate violence towards civilians on both sides.
>Many of our peers worldwide have expressed strong opposition to Hamas’s attack and have offered unambiguous support for its victims. Prominent voices in the Arab world, too, have made it clear that there is no justification for sadistic murder of innocent people. However, to our dismay, some elements within the global left, individuals who were, until now, our political partners, have reacted with indifference to these horrific events and sometimes even justified Hamas’s actions. Some have refused to condemn the violence, claiming that outsiders have no right to judge the actions of the oppressed. Others have downplayed the suffering and trauma, arguing that Israeli society brought this tragedy upon itself. Yet others have shielded themselves from the moral shock through historical comparisons and rationalization. And there are even those – no small number – for whom the darkest day in our society’s history was a cause for celebration.
>This array of responses surprised us. We never imagined that individuals on the left, advocates of equality, freedom, justice, and welfare, would reveal such extreme moral insensitivity and political recklessness. Let us be clear: Hamas is a theocratic and repressive organization that vehemently opposes the attempt to promote peace and equality in the Middle East. Its core commitments are fundamentally inconsistent with progressive principles, and thus the inclination of certain leftists to react affirmatively to its actions is utterly absurd. Moreover, there is no justification for shooting civilians in their homes; no rationalization for the murder of children in front of their parents; no reasoning for the persecution and execution of partygoers.
Legitimizing or excusing these actions amounts to a betrayal of the fundamental principles of left-wing politics.
>We emphasize: there is no contradiction between staunchly opposing the Israeli subjugation and occupation of Palestinians and unequivocally condemning brutal acts of violence against innocent civilians. In fact, every consistent leftist must hold both positions simultaneously.
The seventh of October is a dark day in the history of Israel-Palestine and the lives of the peoples of this region.
>Those who refuse to condemn Hamas’s actions do immense damage to the prospects of peace becoming a viable, relevant political option. They weaken the left’s ability to present a positive social and political horizon, turning it into an extreme, narrow, and alienating political force. We call on our peers on the left to return to a politics based on humanistic and universal principles, to take a clear stance against human rights abuse of any form, and to assist us in the struggle to break the cycle of violence and destruction.
Let’s be real, the intelligence is Arab nations were getting close to Israel. So Hamas initiated a calculated attack assuming Israel would throw down effectively souring any and all relationships forming. It would be a shame if hamas is responsible for the hospital attack trying to perpetuate Arab opposition to Israel.
Id say Biden responded pretty well.
Tlaib is wrong.
I’ve never appreciated Biden more than in the last few weeks. At least we have someone with a level head in the White House and not these Twitter Representatives
Just curious does she even care that Hamas killed and kidnapped Americans as well?
Sounds like she’s asking to get primaried since it’s unlikely she’ll be re-elected.
The problem I have with some supporters of Palestine, like Tlaib, is they seem to play the “not all Palestine is Hamas” while also, very specifically NOT renouncing Hamas. Oftentimes it seems like when pushed, they completely agree with the Hamas anti-Israel sentiment, which obviously is Antisemtism at its core. They do this, and then expect others to show empathy for Palestinian losses but have no need to show empathy for Israelian losses, or their extreme views.
This behavior isolates them, and no matter how much I want to support her, I feel like if given a chance, they would trade places with Israel and absolutely wipe them off the map.
People like her are why where I live there is extra police and even private security around (I live in a very Jewish area of Brooklyn).
Being anti Israel is one thing but most people are using this to be as antisemite as possible.
I think that this a perfect example of the cycle of hate. On both sides it exists. Instead of owning her mistake and being the bigger person she doubled down. This is why this whole situation is so messed up. Take the politics out of it and the people want peace.
The Squad has been showing their whole ass lately.
Jews are and have been victims.
Israel is a state/government.
Israel is not a victim.
Palestinians are and have been victims.
Hamas is political/paramilitary organization.
Hamas is not a victim
Glad people’s true colors are starting to show now that the hospital bombing has been debunked
They need to feel the heat for this, a stark reminder to wait for all the facts. You can’t react with emotion especially when you’re in power like this. Disappointed in both of them
All of the technical analyses from people that I trust and who would know these things (like Ryan McBeth) tend to indicate it was indeed a failed rocket attack from Islamic Jihad. I mean, be angry about the right things here, Israel has done other things that are wrong, sure, but this isn’t it.
The most disturbing part is that they seem genuinely upset that it didn’t actually happen.
Has she actually refused to apologize? Like was asked about that and said “I refuse to apologize”. Or just hasn’t issued an apology or said anything new on the matter?
The article doesn’t include any info in that regard.
Definitely hurting her cause. That’s unfortunate as it will likely cost her next election. So be it.
I’m embarrassed for the people who are pro-Palestinian and aren’t fact-checking or at least refraining from reactionary diatribe until the dust settles.
My advice? Wait until at least the next morning. Think about what you are going to say. Review all available sources. I have yet to walk back a single thing I’ve said on my public accounts because I wait and I research until I know that my statement is correct.
Also, if being highly emotional and contentious helped this conflict, we would not be here today.
I want all the wacky Christians out of Congress, same with wacky Muslims, wacky Mormons, etc. Fuck off, Tlaib.
So, it’s becoming quite evident she’s a fanatical terrorist supporter.
She’s a piece of shit
I have never liked this woman. She’s a loudmouth who doesn’t know how to admit she’s wrong. As a Democrat, I’d have a very hard time voting for her. I don’t appreciate her voice in the House.
She is turning into Boebert of the Left, needs to be primaried next election.
People tried telling y’all for years she was anti semetic
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>Tlaib also slammed President Joe Biden for his support for Israel’s actions since the Hamas terrorist attack.
>”To my president, to our president … I want him to know, as a Palestinian American and somebody in Muslim faith, I’m not going to forget this. And I think a lot of people are not going to forget this,” Tlaib said.
Some wild shit for a Representative to be saying.
Well surely Biden will now attack her on social media and call her a DINO
Oh, wait…
I’m rather unimpressed with her right now
> “The American Jewish community in my district, and all of you here. I just know how much courage it’s taken to speak up. Many of you have been targeted. You’re being gas lit. Some people are losing their jobs. Folks are getting events canceled. Literally, their First Amendment right wiped away for standing up and saying that children deserve to live. It is literally inhumane for my colleagues to allow that to continue and say nothing,” Tlaib said.
I am more used to hearing this from the right but it is equally exhausting here. First amendment gone says person who is currently expressing themselves under the protection of the first amendment. Free speech does not mean you are free from consequences.
Regardless I do wish her call for a ceasefire was heard or was being called for by people who have a more reasonable position on this conflict. The world can use a break from horrible violence. It is just so hard to be optimistic at this point. Historically, much more reasonable leaders have tried and failed to find a peaceful solution. The idea that Bibi and Hamas can find a peaceful resolution seems impossible.
edit: thank you to the kind user who sent the reddit care resources my way…nice to know you care!
Useless rep. She exists solely to further her own interest
Edit I got a Reddit cares which means somebody disagrees but cannot post factual evidence
I cannot stand her. Get her the fuck out next election
and there’s comms of ~~Hamas~~ Islamic Jihad saying “oops, it is ours” right after it happened
https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelWarVideoReport/comments/17axbcj/alahli_arabi_hospital_strike_hamas_com_intercept/
Tragic that the legacy of the first muslims elected to congress just ended up being a legacy of terrorist sympathy.
Primary her
Edit: thanks for the Reddit Cares message, asshole
> “We will remember where you stood”
Yup, I certainly will remember where Biden stood: Calm, level-headedness, and critical thinking that values accuracy over misinformation & clout. Thank goodness he’s not a reactionary nor a social media clout chaser.
“The Squad” brand has been ruined.
I’m embarrassed by her as a Democrat. Hamas told you who they are and if you don’t clean them out it’s a guarantee that their murdering will happen again.
As a moderate Democrat, I say no double standards, she is just as wacky as the MAGA extremist Republicans, get her the hell out of the house.
Nothing about the 200 slaughtered at the music festival.
lefty liberal here – vote her out
It’s the fact that she’s doubling down on her misinformation once it was proven to be wrong that’s most troubling.
I get it, she is a Palestinian American in a heavily Muslim district, so it would be tough for her to just stand by and blindly support Biden who himself is in full support Israel. But, she also needs to represent the facts and NOT sow division in the Democratic Party. Elections are too important to seed any ground to right under any circumstance. Also, Biden is literally the reason that residents of Gaza are getting any kind of aid right now. It is fine to be upset with him now, but in a year from now you need to be supporting him.
I hope she gets primaried. I don’t want this in my democratic party
She makes progressives all over the world look bad.
>Statement on Behalf of Israel-based Progressives and Peace Activists
Regarding Debates over Recent Events in Our Region:
>We, Israel-based academics, thought leaders and progressive activists committed to peace, equality, justice, and human rights, are deeply pained and shocked by the recent events in our region. We are also deeply concerned by the inadequate response from certain American and European progressives regarding the targeting of Israeli civilians by Hamas, a response which reflects a disturbing trend in the global left’s political culture.
>On October 7, 2023, Hamas launched an unprecedented attack that included mass murder of innocent civilians in their homes, indiscriminate violence towards women, the elderly, and children, and mass kidnappings of Israeli citizens. Entire families were wiped out in this carnage, whole communities were reduced to ashes, bodies were maimed, infants were massacred. It is impossible to overstate the damage caused by these events, both on a personal and a collective level. The traumatizing events of that Saturday in October will leave a lasting mark on our hearts and memories.
>As expected, in response to Hamas’s actions, the State of Israel launched a massive military operation in Gaza. We still cannot estimate the death toll of these attacks, but it is likely to be higher than anything we have witnessed heretofore. This cycle of aggression severely undermines our long-standing struggle against oppression and violence and in pursuit of full rights and equality for all residents of Israel-Palestine. At this moment, more than ever, we need support and solidarity from the global left, in the form of an unequivocal call against indiscriminate violence towards civilians on both sides.
>Many of our peers worldwide have expressed strong opposition to Hamas’s attack and have offered unambiguous support for its victims. Prominent voices in the Arab world, too, have made it clear that there is no justification for sadistic murder of innocent people. However, to our dismay, some elements within the global left, individuals who were, until now, our political partners, have reacted with indifference to these horrific events and sometimes even justified Hamas’s actions. Some have refused to condemn the violence, claiming that outsiders have no right to judge the actions of the oppressed. Others have downplayed the suffering and trauma, arguing that Israeli society brought this tragedy upon itself. Yet others have shielded themselves from the moral shock through historical comparisons and rationalization. And there are even those – no small number – for whom the darkest day in our society’s history was a cause for celebration.
>This array of responses surprised us. We never imagined that individuals on the left, advocates of equality, freedom, justice, and welfare, would reveal such extreme moral insensitivity and political recklessness. Let us be clear: Hamas is a theocratic and repressive organization that vehemently opposes the attempt to promote peace and equality in the Middle East. Its core commitments are fundamentally inconsistent with progressive principles, and thus the inclination of certain leftists to react affirmatively to its actions is utterly absurd. Moreover, there is no justification for shooting civilians in their homes; no rationalization for the murder of children in front of their parents; no reasoning for the persecution and execution of partygoers.
Legitimizing or excusing these actions amounts to a betrayal of the fundamental principles of left-wing politics.
>We emphasize: there is no contradiction between staunchly opposing the Israeli subjugation and occupation of Palestinians and unequivocally condemning brutal acts of violence against innocent civilians. In fact, every consistent leftist must hold both positions simultaneously.
The seventh of October is a dark day in the history of Israel-Palestine and the lives of the peoples of this region.
>Those who refuse to condemn Hamas’s actions do immense damage to the prospects of peace becoming a viable, relevant political option. They weaken the left’s ability to present a positive social and political horizon, turning it into an extreme, narrow, and alienating political force. We call on our peers on the left to return to a politics based on humanistic and universal principles, to take a clear stance against human rights abuse of any form, and to assist us in the struggle to break the cycle of violence and destruction.
Let’s be real, the intelligence is Arab nations were getting close to Israel. So Hamas initiated a calculated attack assuming Israel would throw down effectively souring any and all relationships forming. It would be a shame if hamas is responsible for the hospital attack trying to perpetuate Arab opposition to Israel.
Id say Biden responded pretty well.
Tlaib is wrong.
I’ve never appreciated Biden more than in the last few weeks. At least we have someone with a level head in the White House and not these Twitter Representatives
Just curious does she even care that Hamas killed and kidnapped Americans as well?
Sounds like she’s asking to get primaried since it’s unlikely she’ll be re-elected.
The problem I have with some supporters of Palestine, like Tlaib, is they seem to play the “not all Palestine is Hamas” while also, very specifically NOT renouncing Hamas. Oftentimes it seems like when pushed, they completely agree with the Hamas anti-Israel sentiment, which obviously is Antisemtism at its core. They do this, and then expect others to show empathy for Palestinian losses but have no need to show empathy for Israelian losses, or their extreme views.
This behavior isolates them, and no matter how much I want to support her, I feel like if given a chance, they would trade places with Israel and absolutely wipe them off the map.
People like her are why where I live there is extra police and even private security around (I live in a very Jewish area of Brooklyn).
Being anti Israel is one thing but most people are using this to be as antisemite as possible.
I think that this a perfect example of the cycle of hate. On both sides it exists. Instead of owning her mistake and being the bigger person she doubled down. This is why this whole situation is so messed up. Take the politics out of it and the people want peace.
The Squad has been showing their whole ass lately.
Jews are and have been victims.
Israel is a state/government.
Israel is not a victim.
Palestinians are and have been victims.
Hamas is political/paramilitary organization.
Hamas is not a victim
Glad people’s true colors are starting to show now that the hospital bombing has been debunked
They need to feel the heat for this, a stark reminder to wait for all the facts. You can’t react with emotion especially when you’re in power like this. Disappointed in both of them
All of the technical analyses from people that I trust and who would know these things (like Ryan McBeth) tend to indicate it was indeed a failed rocket attack from Islamic Jihad. I mean, be angry about the right things here, Israel has done other things that are wrong, sure, but this isn’t it.
The most disturbing part is that they seem genuinely upset that it didn’t actually happen.
Has she actually refused to apologize? Like was asked about that and said “I refuse to apologize”. Or just hasn’t issued an apology or said anything new on the matter?
The article doesn’t include any info in that regard.
Definitely hurting her cause. That’s unfortunate as it will likely cost her next election. So be it.
I’m embarrassed for the people who are pro-Palestinian and aren’t fact-checking or at least refraining from reactionary diatribe until the dust settles.
My advice? Wait until at least the next morning. Think about what you are going to say. Review all available sources. I have yet to walk back a single thing I’ve said on my public accounts because I wait and I research until I know that my statement is correct.
Also, if being highly emotional and contentious helped this conflict, we would not be here today.
I want all the wacky Christians out of Congress, same with wacky Muslims, wacky Mormons, etc. Fuck off, Tlaib.
So, it’s becoming quite evident she’s a fanatical terrorist supporter.
She’s a piece of shit
I have never liked this woman. She’s a loudmouth who doesn’t know how to admit she’s wrong. As a Democrat, I’d have a very hard time voting for her. I don’t appreciate her voice in the House.
She is turning into Boebert of the Left, needs to be primaried next election.
People tried telling y’all for years she was anti semetic