He’s like a ghost, a phantom. A spook story that people tell their kids.
My guess is you’ll never be allowed to hear from him again.
… yet no one fancies going back to his hotel afterwards.
It’s scary how unsubstantiated accusations can destroy a person. Even someone who is not famous can find themselves the victim of social lynching if it gets enough traction and snowballs.
Being cancelled is when you get to speak at prestigious universities with favourable coverage by the media apparently.
Not surprised given this is basically nonce Island in the “elite” circles
I think cancel culture is real – people being fired for minor gaffs or saying politically un PC things or whatever.
Sadly it is being used as a shield by wronguns like spacey. 2 dead accusers by the way!
At least 16 people have come out and said they have been sexually assaulted by Kevin Spacey. He doesn’t get to play the victim card.
There is a good argument not to release a suspect’s names until something is proven. Remember the fuss when they raided cliff Richard. Police told the BBC even before the raid to find evidence.
Alternative Headline: Nonce receives standing ovation at Tory stronghold for his lecture on why people shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions
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So, he wasn’t actually cancelled after all. He faced temporary consequences for his actions and choices…
There will always be “edge cases” people where there is serious allegations and a widespread feeling that enough serious allegations to justify being ostracised without an actual conviction.
So several things can be true.
People can lose jobs and careers over infractions that are unfair over reactions to smelling indiscretions or opinions that should be part of a more robust debate on controversial issues.
People can be ostracised for opinions and views that are now unacceptable in the public space but their defenders do not agree with this.
People can be cancelled when most would be willing to say the balance of probabilities is they are guilty of crimes that cannot be proven in a court of law.
The problem is many people dig in hard to the believe everything is absolute. The mob is always right types who deny any “cancel culture” exists and call everything “consequences culture”, people who never take an unpopular stand (within their own group).
And people who believe there should never be consequences for their own views.
The best way for individuals to get out of this kind of moral maize of absolutism is to mentally assign scores in the 1-10 type catagory not “cancelled”/”innocent”, so “hmmmm that one is pretty close to what I would want to see over so 8 out of 10” vs “edgy humour, dog whistling but not really harmful 4 out of 10”.
Its a mental trick to try to break form the hard yes or hard no.
Many people are far to fast to fall into line with the group opinion and not really be willing to admit doubt and that unfair “cancellation” has a chilling affect on public discussion by simply leaving it to those with the thickest skins and the strongest opinions. Some may reflect that this has not made us a better society over the past 10 years.
He got a standing ovation because most of the audience are from such rich families that they think its their birthright being able to do or say what they want and get away with it.
The irony of the reaction to someone like Spacey who was proven not guilty but yet you hear Michael Jackson songs all the time. It’s interesting to see who gets the guilty tag by the internet and who doesn’t regardless of what’s actually happened in a court room
WTF? Kevin Spacey is an utter creep! There’s plenty of evidence for this! How can he claim that he was cancelled when he’s getting this speaking tour and being lauded like this?
And he’s associating with that Pseudo-intellectual Douglas Murray, the respectable face of white replacement conspiracy theory and a lickspittle to prominent antisemitic dictator Viktor Orban.
Man who’s been cancelled still has massive fucking platform shocker.
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And just like that, <puff>, he’s cancelled.
He’s like a ghost, a phantom. A spook story that people tell their kids.
My guess is you’ll never be allowed to hear from him again.
… yet no one fancies going back to his hotel afterwards.
It’s scary how unsubstantiated accusations can destroy a person. Even someone who is not famous can find themselves the victim of social lynching if it gets enough traction and snowballs.
Being cancelled is when you get to speak at prestigious universities with favourable coverage by the media apparently.
Not surprised given this is basically nonce Island in the “elite” circles
I think cancel culture is real – people being fired for minor gaffs or saying politically un PC things or whatever.
Sadly it is being used as a shield by wronguns like spacey. 2 dead accusers by the way!
At least 16 people have come out and said they have been sexually assaulted by Kevin Spacey. He doesn’t get to play the victim card.
There is a good argument not to release a suspect’s names until something is proven. Remember the fuss when they raided cliff Richard. Police told the BBC even before the raid to find evidence.
Alternative Headline: Nonce receives standing ovation at Tory stronghold for his lecture on why people shouldn’t be held accountable for their actions
[removed]
So, he wasn’t actually cancelled after all. He faced temporary consequences for his actions and choices…
There will always be “edge cases” people where there is serious allegations and a widespread feeling that enough serious allegations to justify being ostracised without an actual conviction.
So several things can be true.
People can lose jobs and careers over infractions that are unfair over reactions to smelling indiscretions or opinions that should be part of a more robust debate on controversial issues.
People can be ostracised for opinions and views that are now unacceptable in the public space but their defenders do not agree with this.
People can be cancelled when most would be willing to say the balance of probabilities is they are guilty of crimes that cannot be proven in a court of law.
The problem is many people dig in hard to the believe everything is absolute. The mob is always right types who deny any “cancel culture” exists and call everything “consequences culture”, people who never take an unpopular stand (within their own group).
And people who believe there should never be consequences for their own views.
The best way for individuals to get out of this kind of moral maize of absolutism is to mentally assign scores in the 1-10 type catagory not “cancelled”/”innocent”, so “hmmmm that one is pretty close to what I would want to see over so 8 out of 10” vs “edgy humour, dog whistling but not really harmful 4 out of 10”.
Its a mental trick to try to break form the hard yes or hard no.
Many people are far to fast to fall into line with the group opinion and not really be willing to admit doubt and that unfair “cancellation” has a chilling affect on public discussion by simply leaving it to those with the thickest skins and the strongest opinions. Some may reflect that this has not made us a better society over the past 10 years.
He got a standing ovation because most of the audience are from such rich families that they think its their birthright being able to do or say what they want and get away with it.
The irony of the reaction to someone like Spacey who was proven not guilty but yet you hear Michael Jackson songs all the time. It’s interesting to see who gets the guilty tag by the internet and who doesn’t regardless of what’s actually happened in a court room
WTF? Kevin Spacey is an utter creep! There’s plenty of evidence for this! How can he claim that he was cancelled when he’s getting this speaking tour and being lauded like this?
And he’s associating with that Pseudo-intellectual Douglas Murray, the respectable face of white replacement conspiracy theory and a lickspittle to prominent antisemitic dictator Viktor Orban.
Man who’s been cancelled still has massive fucking platform shocker.