What a vile take. Nothing can justify this massacre. Nothing.
hamas apologists being hamas apologists..
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I support Israeli measures against Hamas after what they did to Israeli civilians. I think they have a right to defend themselves as a sovereign nation. But I don’t think he’s wrong here either. It certainly didn’t occur randomly.
To quite a few out there, it seems it didn’t happen at all.
I guess so did the 9/11, Paris attack, and the 7/7/2005 London bombing…
Scum remain scum.
Aw fuck me. Talk about victim blaming. What chance does Israel and Jews around the world have, with attitudes like this ?
This will just rile up and embolden the snack bars. Words matter and those words suck.
“The twin tower attacks didn’t happen in a vacuum”
“Bataclan massacre in France didn’t happen in a vacuum”
This is the very definition of a terrorism apologist. He is basically saying “victims got it coming”.
It still happened tho.
This is the reason polls show that Israel is the country that dislikes the UN the most.
This sounds a lot like he’s justifying terror.
The UN is basically a joke anyways.
“holocaust didn’t happen in a vacuum”
The same UN Chief that has no problems giving the gaza strip millions and millions of dollars of the worlds nations tax money for free, unregulated use by the gaza government.
It didn’t happen in a vaccuum, you’re damn right.
This organization funds the gaza strip and the PA so they can keep terrorizing israel, zero resolutions for the innocents and only condemnations for israel.
Zero condemnations for the daily shellings coming from the gaza strip
Zero regulations and zero administration!
Whos lining your pockets?
Trying to validate terrorist attacks?
Who the fck is this idiot.
Oh, a lot of things didn’t happen in a vacuum. In fact, this attack make every Israeli strike against don’t happen in a vacuum either.
No it didn’t. It happened in a culture of Islamic extremism and Hamas doing everything it can to ruin the lives of its own people for decades.
Those women were wearing short skirts!
There’s always a not-in-a-vacuum reason to kill Jews. Stop justifying violence.
>”The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence…”
Their land? They’ve rejected every peace plan that would give them full control over the West Bank. At this point it’s safe to say they don’t want the land anymore since they’ve had plenty of chances to be recognized as the proper owners of the West Bank. All they had to do was make peace with Israel and stop the violence.
A reminder from the wise words of Christopher Hitchens, “We cannot delegate this fight to our leaders”
Honestly fuck the UN… it’s the same organization where Putin has a veto, and Iran was a member of Women’s rights committee
Ah on to the victim blaming part of the conflict. Got it, Israel never should worn such a short skirt.
This terrorist apologist is the lowest of the low. Victim-blaming garbage.
Why UN even exists, they are clowns
Russia attacking Ukraine also didn’t happen in vacuum?
Holocaust also didnt happen in a vacuum? Holodomor? Invasion of Ukraine?
> “It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.”
I don’t see anything incorrect here.
He didn’t say the attacks were justified, or anything of the sort. He simply said they didn’t happen in a vacuum.
Here’s his full speech – unequivocal condemnation of the Hamas attacks:
Excellencies,
It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.
The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.
They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.
But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.
Excellencies,
Even war has rules.
We must demand that all parties uphold and respect their obligations under international humanitarian law; take constant care in the conduct of military operations to spare civilians; and respect and protect hospitals and respect the inviolability of UN facilities which today are sheltering more than 600,000 Palestinians.
The relentless bombardment of Gaza by Israeli forces, the level of civilian casualties, and the wholesale destruction of neighborhoods continue to mount and are deeply alarming.
I mourn and honour the dozens of UN colleagues working for UNRWA – sadly, at least 35 and counting – killed in the bombardment of Gaza over the last two weeks.
I owe to their families my condemnation of these and many other similar killings.
The protection of civilians is paramount in any armed conflict.
Protecting civilians can never mean using them as human shields.
Protecting civilians does not mean ordering more than one million people to evacuate to the south, where there is no shelter, no food, no water, no medicine and no fuel, and then continuing to bomb the south itself.
I am deeply concerned about the clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing in Gaza.
Let me be clear: No party to an armed conflict is above international humanitarian law.
Excellencies,
Thankfully, some humanitarian relief is finally getting into Gaza.
But it is a drop of aid in an ocean of need.
In addition, our UN fuel supplies in Gaza will run out in a matter of days. That would be another disaster.
Without fuel, aid cannot be delivered, hospitals will not have power, and drinking water cannot be purified or even pumped.
The people of Gaza need continuous aid delivery at a level that corresponds to the enormous needs. That aid must be delivered without restrictions.
I salute our UN colleagues and humanitarian partners in Gaza working under hazardous conditions and risking their lives to provide aid to those in need. They are an inspiration.
To ease epic suffering, make the delivery of aid easier and safer, and facilitate the release of hostages, I reiterate my appeal for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.
Excellencies,
Even in this moment of grave and immediate danger, we cannot lose sight of the only realistic foundation for a true peace and stability: a two-State solution.
Israelis must see their legitimate needs for security materialized, and Palestinians must see their legitimate aspirations for an independent State realized, in line with United Nations resolutions, international law and previous agreements.
Finally, we must be clear on the principle of upholding human dignity.
Polarization and dehumanization are being fueled by a tsunami of disinformation.
We must stand up to the forces of antisemitism, anti-Muslim bigotry and all forms of hate.
Mr. President,
Excellencies,
Today is United Nations Day, marking 78 years since the UN Charter entered into force.
That Charter reflects our shared commitment to advance peace, sustainable development and human rights.
On this UN Day, at this critical hour, I appeal to all to pull back from the brink before the violence claims even more lives and spreads even farther.
If 7.10 didn’t wake up the world to what Israel has been dealing with for decades, nothing will.
While the free world is rallying to help Israel defeat Hamas, which will actually help Palestinians, the UN is just losing any credibility it had left.
Meanwhile UN troops at the border of Lebanon are enjoying the view of rockets fired from right next to them.
What a joke.
The Holocaust didnt happen in a vacuum.
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F you Tony
The words of the UN cheif proves once again, that the Jewish people need a country of their own with an army of their own.
Israel must be able to protect itself.
the term “terrorism” was created by western powers to minimize the correlation on how their policy shortcomings lead to environments that incubate cruel violence
the term was really not used prior to 1970s
flaming hot take that will most certainly get downvoted- if we want terrorism to stop, i think a good step would be to stop using this term to try to end this never ending cycle of alienation
We need to acknowledge facts. Hamas is a terrorist organisation, no doubt about it, because that’s what they repeatedly do: commit violence/atrocities against innocent people to retaliate/send message about other people. This is what happened in 9/11 and many other terrorist acts. The analogy here is right. What is not right is to ignore all the injustice that the Palestinians endured and are enduring now. There is definitely a link between these crimes and the decades of suffering. The analogy here is not that of blaming a girl wearing a short skirt for being raped, this is an equivalence fallacy. Because the girl didn’t hurt anyone. The analogy that works here is that of a child who has been repeatedly abused and ended up committing a terrible indescribable crime. How can this be an excuse for his crime? It definitely isn’t. His crime remains a crime and he is to be punished for it. But as responsible human beings, we need to understand the terrible wrong that drives persons to such madness, and we need to stop it, not to ignore it, let alone commit the same crime, that of hurting other people belonging to the same ethnicity/religion
Before Hamas there was still Israeli apartheid regime. In West Bank, there is no Hamas, and still there is Israeli apartheid regime. The Common denominator is obvious here, a rogue regime that breaks every international law and just get away with it because sugar daddy US let’s them do it.
If you look at the order of events, the Palestinian side is hilarious. Arabs originally rejected the 1947 UN proposed borders that would’ve given them ALL of the West Bank among other areas. It wasn’t until 1988 (and after decades of getting their asses kicked by Israel) that they declared independence and were like:
“Yeah… we’re a country now and those 1947 lands are ours by right and law and stuff. Forget all the wars we’ve lost and how we rejected those borders before. This is our land we decided. It’s totally legal cause we have a declaration of independence and that’s what we declared it.”
The comments section here are absolutely wild, and terribly ignorant.
Credit to u/thiswebsitewentdownh. I just thought it deserves to be it’s own comment.
> At a crucial moment like this, it is vital to be clear on principles — starting with the fundamental principle of respecting and protecting civilians.
> I have condemned unequivocally the horrifying and unprecedented 7 October acts of terror by Hamas in Israel.
> Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians – or the launching of rockets against civilian targets.
> All hostages must be treated humanely and released immediately and without conditions. I respectfully note the presence among us of members of their families.
> Excellencies,
> It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.
> The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.
> They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.
> But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.
> Excellencies,
> Even war has rules.
> We must demand that all parties uphold and respect their obligations under international humanitarian law; take constant care in the conduct of military operations to spare civilians; and respect and protect hospitals and respect the inviolability of UN facilities which today are sheltering more than 600,000 Palestinians.
> The relentless bombardment of Gaza by Israeli forces, the level of civilian casualties, and the wholesale destruction of neighborhoods continue to mount and are deeply alarming.
> I mourn and honour the dozens of UN colleagues working for UNRWA – sadly, at least 35 and counting – killed in the bombardment of Gaza over the last two weeks.
> I owe to their families my condemnation of these and many other similar killings.
> The protection of civilians is paramount in any armed conflict.
> Protecting civilians can never mean using them as human shields.
> Protecting civilians does not mean ordering more than one million people to evacuate to the south, where there is no shelter, no food, no water, no medicine and no fuel, and then continuing to bomb the south itself.
But for someone of his position to make statements like that two weeks after the worst terrorist attack since 9/11, shows you that Jewish tragedies just aren’t as respected as everyone else’s. They are still finding bodies! Or what’s left of them…
Don’t forget Hamas had just agreed to ceasefire/peace with Israel just a few weeks before the massacres. Obviously, Hamas doesn’t care about Gaza either.
He is correct. Any objective observation of the Israel-Palestine history, including the long documented track record going back to the 1980s of the Israeli government empowering Islamists and fostering the growth of Hamas intentionally to disempower Gazan secularists and liberals, shows that this, indeed, did not happen in a vacuum. The current PM of Israel, Netanyahu, intentionally propped up Hamas in defiance of the Palestinian Authority to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. But, don’t take my word for it. The Times of Israel reported on this on October 8th.
That’s not even getting into Israeli settlers (civilians) making themselves active combatants by entering Palestinian territory to evict Palestinians from their families at gunpoint and having the IDF gun them down if they try to retaliate. Or the pogroms (one of which happened in February of this year) enacted by Israeli settlers (civilians) against Palestinians under the watchful protection of the IDF.
Hamas is a tire fire of terrorists that desperately need to meet the wrong end of a rifle. But allowing your civilians to become active combatants to colonize land that isn’t in your territory while hiding behind your active military, using Palestinians as human shields, supporting Islamic extremists to prevent the establishment of a liberal democracy to further their colonial policies, etc., etc., etc., has led to this moment of Israel’s long and storied history of fucking around and finally finding out.
And before you start your hate post of righteous indignation about the innocent Israeli citizens (who are members of a democratically elected government they could have used their votes to stop, unlike Palestinians), you should remember something. Until the most recent conflict, the civilian casualty rate going from the mid 2000s to today was nearly 21 times higher on the Palestinian side, half of which are **children**. Spare me your righteous indignation. You don’t give a shit about children and never did. You care about advancing the colonial interests of Israel and have turned a blind eye to the murder of literally thousands of children at the hands of the IDF for **decades.** Terrorism sucks and the terrorists of Hamas should be arrested or killed. But this did, in fact, not occur in a vacuum. Your righteous indignation and willful ignorance of the facts notwithstanding.
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What a vile take. Nothing can justify this massacre. Nothing.
hamas apologists being hamas apologists..
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I support Israeli measures against Hamas after what they did to Israeli civilians. I think they have a right to defend themselves as a sovereign nation. But I don’t think he’s wrong here either. It certainly didn’t occur randomly.
To quite a few out there, it seems it didn’t happen at all.
I guess so did the 9/11, Paris attack, and the 7/7/2005 London bombing…
Scum remain scum.
Aw fuck me. Talk about victim blaming. What chance does Israel and Jews around the world have, with attitudes like this ?
This will just rile up and embolden the snack bars. Words matter and those words suck.
“The twin tower attacks didn’t happen in a vacuum”
“Bataclan massacre in France didn’t happen in a vacuum”
This is the very definition of a terrorism apologist. He is basically saying “victims got it coming”.
It still happened tho.
This is the reason polls show that Israel is the country that dislikes the UN the most.
Edit: the poll in one photo [here](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/09/16/people-across-24-countries-continue-to-view-un-favorably/sr_23-08-31_un-favorability_1/)
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This sounds a lot like he’s justifying terror.
The UN is basically a joke anyways.
“holocaust didn’t happen in a vacuum”
The same UN Chief that has no problems giving the gaza strip millions and millions of dollars of the worlds nations tax money for free, unregulated use by the gaza government.
It didn’t happen in a vaccuum, you’re damn right.
This organization funds the gaza strip and the PA so they can keep terrorizing israel, zero resolutions for the innocents and only condemnations for israel.
Zero condemnations for the daily shellings coming from the gaza strip
Zero regulations and zero administration!
Whos lining your pockets?
Trying to validate terrorist attacks?
Who the fck is this idiot.
Oh, a lot of things didn’t happen in a vacuum. In fact, this attack make every Israeli strike against don’t happen in a vacuum either.
No it didn’t. It happened in a culture of Islamic extremism and Hamas doing everything it can to ruin the lives of its own people for decades.
Those women were wearing short skirts!
There’s always a not-in-a-vacuum reason to kill Jews. Stop justifying violence.
>”The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence…”
Their land? They’ve rejected every peace plan that would give them full control over the West Bank. At this point it’s safe to say they don’t want the land anymore since they’ve had plenty of chances to be recognized as the proper owners of the West Bank. All they had to do was make peace with Israel and stop the violence.
A reminder from the wise words of Christopher Hitchens, “We cannot delegate this fight to our leaders”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyN55MGa-Ow&ab_channel=cecil123
Honestly fuck the UN… it’s the same organization where Putin has a veto, and Iran was a member of Women’s rights committee
Ah on to the victim blaming part of the conflict. Got it, Israel never should worn such a short skirt.
This terrorist apologist is the lowest of the low. Victim-blaming garbage.
Why UN even exists, they are clowns
Russia attacking Ukraine also didn’t happen in vacuum?
Holocaust also didnt happen in a vacuum? Holodomor? Invasion of Ukraine?
> “It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.”
I don’t see anything incorrect here.
He didn’t say the attacks were justified, or anything of the sort. He simply said they didn’t happen in a vacuum.
Here’s his full speech – unequivocal condemnation of the Hamas attacks:
Excellencies,
It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.
The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.
They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.
But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.
Excellencies,
Even war has rules.
We must demand that all parties uphold and respect their obligations under international humanitarian law; take constant care in the conduct of military operations to spare civilians; and respect and protect hospitals and respect the inviolability of UN facilities which today are sheltering more than 600,000 Palestinians.
The relentless bombardment of Gaza by Israeli forces, the level of civilian casualties, and the wholesale destruction of neighborhoods continue to mount and are deeply alarming.
I mourn and honour the dozens of UN colleagues working for UNRWA – sadly, at least 35 and counting – killed in the bombardment of Gaza over the last two weeks.
I owe to their families my condemnation of these and many other similar killings.
The protection of civilians is paramount in any armed conflict.
Protecting civilians can never mean using them as human shields.
Protecting civilians does not mean ordering more than one million people to evacuate to the south, where there is no shelter, no food, no water, no medicine and no fuel, and then continuing to bomb the south itself.
I am deeply concerned about the clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing in Gaza.
Let me be clear: No party to an armed conflict is above international humanitarian law.
Excellencies,
Thankfully, some humanitarian relief is finally getting into Gaza.
But it is a drop of aid in an ocean of need.
In addition, our UN fuel supplies in Gaza will run out in a matter of days. That would be another disaster.
Without fuel, aid cannot be delivered, hospitals will not have power, and drinking water cannot be purified or even pumped.
The people of Gaza need continuous aid delivery at a level that corresponds to the enormous needs. That aid must be delivered without restrictions.
I salute our UN colleagues and humanitarian partners in Gaza working under hazardous conditions and risking their lives to provide aid to those in need. They are an inspiration.
To ease epic suffering, make the delivery of aid easier and safer, and facilitate the release of hostages, I reiterate my appeal for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.
Excellencies,
Even in this moment of grave and immediate danger, we cannot lose sight of the only realistic foundation for a true peace and stability: a two-State solution.
Israelis must see their legitimate needs for security materialized, and Palestinians must see their legitimate aspirations for an independent State realized, in line with United Nations resolutions, international law and previous agreements.
Finally, we must be clear on the principle of upholding human dignity.
Polarization and dehumanization are being fueled by a tsunami of disinformation.
We must stand up to the forces of antisemitism, anti-Muslim bigotry and all forms of hate.
Mr. President,
Excellencies,
Today is United Nations Day, marking 78 years since the UN Charter entered into force.
That Charter reflects our shared commitment to advance peace, sustainable development and human rights.
On this UN Day, at this critical hour, I appeal to all to pull back from the brink before the violence claims even more lives and spreads even farther.
Thank you very much.
https://www.un.org/sg/en/content/sg/speeches/2023-10-24/secretary-generals-remarks-the-security-council-the-middle-east%C2%A0
If 7.10 didn’t wake up the world to what Israel has been dealing with for decades, nothing will.
While the free world is rallying to help Israel defeat Hamas, which will actually help Palestinians, the UN is just losing any credibility it had left.
Meanwhile UN troops at the border of Lebanon are enjoying the view of rockets fired from right next to them.
What a joke.
The Holocaust didnt happen in a vacuum.
​
F you Tony
The words of the UN cheif proves once again, that the Jewish people need a country of their own with an army of their own.
Israel must be able to protect itself.
the term “terrorism” was created by western powers to minimize the correlation on how their policy shortcomings lead to environments that incubate cruel violence
the term was really not used prior to 1970s
flaming hot take that will most certainly get downvoted- if we want terrorism to stop, i think a good step would be to stop using this term to try to end this never ending cycle of alienation
We need to acknowledge facts. Hamas is a terrorist organisation, no doubt about it, because that’s what they repeatedly do: commit violence/atrocities against innocent people to retaliate/send message about other people. This is what happened in 9/11 and many other terrorist acts. The analogy here is right. What is not right is to ignore all the injustice that the Palestinians endured and are enduring now. There is definitely a link between these crimes and the decades of suffering. The analogy here is not that of blaming a girl wearing a short skirt for being raped, this is an equivalence fallacy. Because the girl didn’t hurt anyone. The analogy that works here is that of a child who has been repeatedly abused and ended up committing a terrible indescribable crime. How can this be an excuse for his crime? It definitely isn’t. His crime remains a crime and he is to be punished for it. But as responsible human beings, we need to understand the terrible wrong that drives persons to such madness, and we need to stop it, not to ignore it, let alone commit the same crime, that of hurting other people belonging to the same ethnicity/religion
Before Hamas there was still Israeli apartheid regime. In West Bank, there is no Hamas, and still there is Israeli apartheid regime. The Common denominator is obvious here, a rogue regime that breaks every international law and just get away with it because sugar daddy US let’s them do it.
If you look at the order of events, the Palestinian side is hilarious. Arabs originally rejected the 1947 UN proposed borders that would’ve given them ALL of the West Bank among other areas. It wasn’t until 1988 (and after decades of getting their asses kicked by Israel) that they declared independence and were like:
“Yeah… we’re a country now and those 1947 lands are ours by right and law and stuff. Forget all the wars we’ve lost and how we rejected those borders before. This is our land we decided. It’s totally legal cause we have a declaration of independence and that’s what we declared it.”
The comments section here are absolutely wild, and terribly ignorant.
Credit to u/thiswebsitewentdownh. I just thought it deserves to be it’s own comment.
[Original comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/XrM2GPHmLg)
> At a crucial moment like this, it is vital to be clear on principles — starting with the fundamental principle of respecting and protecting civilians.
> I have condemned unequivocally the horrifying and unprecedented 7 October acts of terror by Hamas in Israel.
> Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians – or the launching of rockets against civilian targets.
> All hostages must be treated humanely and released immediately and without conditions. I respectfully note the presence among us of members of their families.
> Excellencies,
> It is important to also recognize the attacks by Hamas did not happen in a vacuum.
> The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation.
> They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.
> But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas. And those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.
> Excellencies,
> Even war has rules.
> We must demand that all parties uphold and respect their obligations under international humanitarian law; take constant care in the conduct of military operations to spare civilians; and respect and protect hospitals and respect the inviolability of UN facilities which today are sheltering more than 600,000 Palestinians.
> The relentless bombardment of Gaza by Israeli forces, the level of civilian casualties, and the wholesale destruction of neighborhoods continue to mount and are deeply alarming.
> I mourn and honour the dozens of UN colleagues working for UNRWA – sadly, at least 35 and counting – killed in the bombardment of Gaza over the last two weeks.
> I owe to their families my condemnation of these and many other similar killings.
> The protection of civilians is paramount in any armed conflict.
> Protecting civilians can never mean using them as human shields.
> Protecting civilians does not mean ordering more than one million people to evacuate to the south, where there is no shelter, no food, no water, no medicine and no fuel, and then continuing to bomb the south itself.
[A reminder to everyone that Israel has killed over 10 UN members so far in this conflict.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/11/world/un-gaza-funding-deaths-intl/index.html)
Seems to me religion in general needs to go away…
Yeah, his claims are technically correct.
But for someone of his position to make statements like that two weeks after the worst terrorist attack since 9/11, shows you that Jewish tragedies just aren’t as respected as everyone else’s. They are still finding bodies! Or what’s left of them…
Don’t forget Hamas had just agreed to ceasefire/peace with Israel just a few weeks before the massacres. Obviously, Hamas doesn’t care about Gaza either.
He is correct. Any objective observation of the Israel-Palestine history, including the long documented track record going back to the 1980s of the Israeli government empowering Islamists and fostering the growth of Hamas intentionally to disempower Gazan secularists and liberals, shows that this, indeed, did not happen in a vacuum. The current PM of Israel, Netanyahu, intentionally propped up Hamas in defiance of the Palestinian Authority to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. But, don’t take my word for it. The Times of Israel reported on this on October 8th.
That’s not even getting into Israeli settlers (civilians) making themselves active combatants by entering Palestinian territory to evict Palestinians from their families at gunpoint and having the IDF gun them down if they try to retaliate. Or the pogroms (one of which happened in February of this year) enacted by Israeli settlers (civilians) against Palestinians under the watchful protection of the IDF.
Hamas is a tire fire of terrorists that desperately need to meet the wrong end of a rifle. But allowing your civilians to become active combatants to colonize land that isn’t in your territory while hiding behind your active military, using Palestinians as human shields, supporting Islamic extremists to prevent the establishment of a liberal democracy to further their colonial policies, etc., etc., etc., has led to this moment of Israel’s long and storied history of fucking around and finally finding out.
And before you start your hate post of righteous indignation about the innocent Israeli citizens (who are members of a democratically elected government they could have used their votes to stop, unlike Palestinians), you should remember something. Until the most recent conflict, the civilian casualty rate going from the mid 2000s to today was nearly 21 times higher on the Palestinian side, half of which are **children**. Spare me your righteous indignation. You don’t give a shit about children and never did. You care about advancing the colonial interests of Israel and have turned a blind eye to the murder of literally thousands of children at the hands of the IDF for **decades.** Terrorism sucks and the terrorists of Hamas should be arrested or killed. But this did, in fact, not occur in a vacuum. Your righteous indignation and willful ignorance of the facts notwithstanding.