Thats what happens if politicians with no connection to normal citizens push beyond the tolerance of its citizens several times. I can only speak from experience. My country was VERY tolerant and accepting towards refugees. But the last 1-2 years the public opinion completely changed because the influx just never stopped and a certain amount of the people coming in were questionable to say the least. Now politicians destroyed years of work towards refugees by pushing so hard and not being completely honest about it that everyone is just fed up and tired. Essentially setting back the public opinion about refugees decades in time. Well done.
I wonder why. Maybe if out of touch politicians stop forcing their agenda of “tolerance” on people, things would be vast different. Simply said wokeist agenda made perfect breeding ground for racism and extremism.
Oh wow, who could have seen that one coming 😀
They always pull out this card when there is great unrest associated with groups that are not originally from Europe.
Let me tell you a story.
In central station in Germany, which are formed like malls, I was sitting on the bench with some colleagues. A man of Arab ethnicity walked down the hall, with his family – a wife and several children, females wearing hijab. Man pulls out his wallet, fiddles with it, and drops some sort of a card from it by accident. He turns to his wife and yells at her “PICK IT UP!”. Woman picks it up, hands it to him, he puts it back in his wallet, and seeing our flabbergasted faces, he makes a remark to us : “You gotta know who the man is”.
This is not the only case of similar shit happening. Do I have a generalized opinion? Absolutely fucking yes, I do. It’s a clash of cultures so immense that it leaves you staring with your mouth open, and there is little fucking wonder people don’t like this among them.
I find articles like this misleading, as they never state by who.
Go to any social housing/heavy immigrant area and listen to how immigrants and their children talk about other immigrant groups, they are racist af.
The majority of racism towards Asians fx is by Arabs and not ethnic Europeans, etc. etc. etc.
Being stopped more frequently could be down to most gang crime is immigrant related and you can’t tell most young black and middle easterners from gang members as they follow the same fashion trends, so 5 people in a car looking like gang members in an area with gang crime will get the police’s attention like it should.
Nah, it’s not racism, it’s called common sense: people don’t want tolerate and pay for people who don’t respect their laws and lifestyle.
*Surprised Pikachu face*
Ah yes, when we don’t want to get run over by Muhmoods, we are racist.
Well, I guess I am a racist then?
“Interesting” graph. Down in 5 countries and up in 5. Germany and France have gone from being almost tied to being worlds apart.
And while AfDs rise is used to explain Germany. According to this racism has plummeted in Sweden with the rise of the Sweden Democrats.
The wildly diverging trend lines is a sign that the methodology is flawed.
But I would like the Guardian to explain why there’s so little racism in Poland. But they seem to just ignore that. Maybe it didn’t fit with their narrative?
Tolerance of the intolerant is a recipe for disaster.
That’s why the right wing will now rise to power across Europe.
People from the east have a different culture & values from the west. Realizing it’s becoming a problem doesn’t make you racist.
If this group of people were behaving peacefully and assimilating into the society no one would’ve given 2 fucks.
Crime statistics. The only reason.
100% because we let in too many people. Say you take in a few refugees from Syria and the balance is 2 or 3 Syrian kids in a class of 30. That works because since the majority of the other kids are british, the Syrian kids would acclimate to the British culture a lot better. The area they live in would speak English and as such the parents would have to be fluent in English to get by, which in turn further pushes them towards ingraining themselves in british society.
When you let in numbers in the hundreds of thousands, all from the same area, what tends to happen is that they all resettle in the same area. Due to the poverty that comes with being a refugee plus some backwards cultural values, that area sees a spike in crime. All the native british population move out, and suddenly people can get around their high street and local area speaking only Arabic. Plus there’s little cultural evolution towards british values, because everyone has the exact same background. When politicians think of multiculturalism they envisage a shared house where one kid’s from the UK, one from India, one from China, one from the Middle-East, and so on. But instead people stick with their own and you find larger cities becoming fractured, and smaller cities completely changed (like Birmingham).
I competed in county championships in tennis for my school. It wasn’t uncommon to visit a school which was almost 100% middle-eastern, save for a clutch of British kids who actually start to become more middle-eastern in their values, hating homosexuals and women and the like. Hell, my school was majority from India and I definitely aligned myself closer towards their cultural values in my youth before going to uni. It’s what kids do to fit in.
How does this become racism? Well, I can say that as a gay man there are areas of london I completely avoid on the basis of which majority populates it. When 50% of the Islamic London population think my way of life should be illegal, the last thing I want to do is trot around their local. There’s the area I live in and central london, and I don’t fuck with most other areas. Similar story with the devout African population. Similarly, I’ve had flak directed at me by my peers in school for being a wealthy white kid who grew up in a rich area, which oft led to me feeling like an outsider.
So I feel what has happened is that we’ve reached saturation point with our immigration policy, which in turn has turned the more multicultural areas into enclaves each all dominated by one group, who at best pay each other no heed and at worst actively hate their nehigbours.
Honestly I don’t quite understand what politicians were thinking would happen…letting in tons of illegal immigrants who unfortunately bring with them the tactics of their home countries while people’s safety and security are compromised will do that.
I guess it goes hand in hand with not being able to feel safe in your country anymore. If burning a so called “holy book” makes you fear for your life, are you really living in a free and safe country anymore?
When you create an environment that breeds civil unrest, you can’t expect anything good coming out of that.
Man I feel like this will go bad for me in the long run, due to how I look.
Like I’m as integrated as I can get having lived in Ireland for 20 years and now have moved to Berlin.
I can’t help how I look and I was never a refugee in the first place as my parents were immigrants.
Also, I’m gay on top of the brown so like I definitely will never be going back to my “home” country.
I just don’t want to get caught up in the hate of geh refugees which I think is quite justified due to how they’re all behaving (well a lot of them anyway if not all).
Fear mongering by the “bleeding heart syndrome” having uber tolerant and progressive people.
Absolute majority is against diluting culture by importing large amounts of migrants who have no idea of basic work and social etiquete.
Just now these people are becoming more and more vocal, creating appearance that people are becoming more “racist”.
Newsflash – most europeans are on japanese level of xenophobic, due to milenia of wars, occupations, genocides and exterminations.
So, for good reason we want to keep our countries safe and cultures undivided.
This will sound awful but ” better racist than stabbed”
Sadly.. It’s going to get a lot worse if things don’t change.
Of course people are sick and tired. Politicans told us there would be no issues whatsoever, and anyone that had some reasonable criticism was brushed off and accused of being a freaking neo-nazi.
Being a migrant myself, I was immediately labeled a nazi by my fellow students (all Europeans) because I said that not everyone who votes for the far-right are nazis but the majority are rather disillusioned population that does not associate itself with the mainstream political parties anymore.
Traditional parties are so disconnected from the reality that they think what they do is best for everyone without ever talking to the people. Add widespread nepotism in political circles and you get nearly the same situation as with the kings and queens from the past – they lived a luxurious life while their people were suffering.
The labels “racist” and “nazi” are being thrown at people without any understanding what they are is also a problem. A native European who does not want to see his culture and traditions dissappear as a result of foreign influx is neither racist nor nazi, but a patriot. Yet those foreigners who come to Europe and demand from the locals to adjust themselves to their customs, religion, traditions etc. are the actual oppressors and invaders.
Everybody is tired of mass migration of people originating from largely incompatible cultures and religions. The numbers are not manageable and we can’t integrate so many well in our societies without the fabric going completely broken.
I just wish the left could comprehend this so that not so many people felt inclined to vote for ultra right parties.
Germany (and the rest of the EU) should entirely revise its immigration policies towards non-EEA citizens by forging a single immigration policy where it should institute points-based and skills-based immigration system like what Australia and Canada have, and recognize all college diplomas from the developing countries, including the Philippines, as long as non-EEA immigrants have at least three years of employment in their countries of origin. The rest of the EU, particularly Germany and Spain, may recruit tens of thousands of Filipino nurses and teachers from the Philippines to work in the EEA countries in work visa arrangements with clear legal path for permanent residency and citizenship.
Assimilating immigrants in Europe would become smoother if they are forced to bootstrap to work for low-paying jobs that native-born Europeans tend to avoid and not dependent on generous welfare benefits that should have been only enjoyed by native-born European citizens.
I wish there was a socialist+progressive+climate conscious party that is also restrictive with regards to immigration and has strict integration requirements.
I don’t ever remember Europe being known as a “melting pot”
As an immigrant, I rarely experience this in my 8 years. But it is starting to get nasty now.
Oh, the irony sharing this article in this subreddit…
Where are all the progressives who spent the last decade holding up signs encouraging more and more?
They’ve been awfully silent.
Go into any comment section about Palestine and you’ll see so much racism
The irony of sharing this on r/europe lol
The rising racism is very apparent on this subreddit as well
/r/Europe is an extremely volatile subreddit full of rage induced propaganda and misinformation.
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Thats what happens if politicians with no connection to normal citizens push beyond the tolerance of its citizens several times. I can only speak from experience. My country was VERY tolerant and accepting towards refugees. But the last 1-2 years the public opinion completely changed because the influx just never stopped and a certain amount of the people coming in were questionable to say the least. Now politicians destroyed years of work towards refugees by pushing so hard and not being completely honest about it that everyone is just fed up and tired. Essentially setting back the public opinion about refugees decades in time. Well done.
I wonder why. Maybe if out of touch politicians stop forcing their agenda of “tolerance” on people, things would be vast different. Simply said wokeist agenda made perfect breeding ground for racism and extremism.
Oh wow, who could have seen that one coming 😀
They always pull out this card when there is great unrest associated with groups that are not originally from Europe.
Let me tell you a story.
In central station in Germany, which are formed like malls, I was sitting on the bench with some colleagues. A man of Arab ethnicity walked down the hall, with his family – a wife and several children, females wearing hijab. Man pulls out his wallet, fiddles with it, and drops some sort of a card from it by accident. He turns to his wife and yells at her “PICK IT UP!”. Woman picks it up, hands it to him, he puts it back in his wallet, and seeing our flabbergasted faces, he makes a remark to us : “You gotta know who the man is”.
This is not the only case of similar shit happening. Do I have a generalized opinion? Absolutely fucking yes, I do. It’s a clash of cultures so immense that it leaves you staring with your mouth open, and there is little fucking wonder people don’t like this among them.
I find articles like this misleading, as they never state by who.
Go to any social housing/heavy immigrant area and listen to how immigrants and their children talk about other immigrant groups, they are racist af.
The majority of racism towards Asians fx is by Arabs and not ethnic Europeans, etc. etc. etc.
Being stopped more frequently could be down to most gang crime is immigrant related and you can’t tell most young black and middle easterners from gang members as they follow the same fashion trends, so 5 people in a car looking like gang members in an area with gang crime will get the police’s attention like it should.
Nah, it’s not racism, it’s called common sense: people don’t want tolerate and pay for people who don’t respect their laws and lifestyle.
*Surprised Pikachu face*
Ah yes, when we don’t want to get run over by Muhmoods, we are racist.
Well, I guess I am a racist then?
“Interesting” graph. Down in 5 countries and up in 5. Germany and France have gone from being almost tied to being worlds apart.
And while AfDs rise is used to explain Germany. According to this racism has plummeted in Sweden with the rise of the Sweden Democrats.
The wildly diverging trend lines is a sign that the methodology is flawed.
But I would like the Guardian to explain why there’s so little racism in Poland. But they seem to just ignore that. Maybe it didn’t fit with their narrative?
Tolerance of the intolerant is a recipe for disaster.
That’s why the right wing will now rise to power across Europe.
People from the east have a different culture & values from the west. Realizing it’s becoming a problem doesn’t make you racist.
If this group of people were behaving peacefully and assimilating into the society no one would’ve given 2 fucks.
Crime statistics. The only reason.
100% because we let in too many people. Say you take in a few refugees from Syria and the balance is 2 or 3 Syrian kids in a class of 30. That works because since the majority of the other kids are british, the Syrian kids would acclimate to the British culture a lot better. The area they live in would speak English and as such the parents would have to be fluent in English to get by, which in turn further pushes them towards ingraining themselves in british society.
When you let in numbers in the hundreds of thousands, all from the same area, what tends to happen is that they all resettle in the same area. Due to the poverty that comes with being a refugee plus some backwards cultural values, that area sees a spike in crime. All the native british population move out, and suddenly people can get around their high street and local area speaking only Arabic. Plus there’s little cultural evolution towards british values, because everyone has the exact same background. When politicians think of multiculturalism they envisage a shared house where one kid’s from the UK, one from India, one from China, one from the Middle-East, and so on. But instead people stick with their own and you find larger cities becoming fractured, and smaller cities completely changed (like Birmingham).
I competed in county championships in tennis for my school. It wasn’t uncommon to visit a school which was almost 100% middle-eastern, save for a clutch of British kids who actually start to become more middle-eastern in their values, hating homosexuals and women and the like. Hell, my school was majority from India and I definitely aligned myself closer towards their cultural values in my youth before going to uni. It’s what kids do to fit in.
How does this become racism? Well, I can say that as a gay man there are areas of london I completely avoid on the basis of which majority populates it. When 50% of the Islamic London population think my way of life should be illegal, the last thing I want to do is trot around their local. There’s the area I live in and central london, and I don’t fuck with most other areas. Similar story with the devout African population. Similarly, I’ve had flak directed at me by my peers in school for being a wealthy white kid who grew up in a rich area, which oft led to me feeling like an outsider.
So I feel what has happened is that we’ve reached saturation point with our immigration policy, which in turn has turned the more multicultural areas into enclaves each all dominated by one group, who at best pay each other no heed and at worst actively hate their nehigbours.
Honestly I don’t quite understand what politicians were thinking would happen…letting in tons of illegal immigrants who unfortunately bring with them the tactics of their home countries while people’s safety and security are compromised will do that.
I guess it goes hand in hand with not being able to feel safe in your country anymore. If burning a so called “holy book” makes you fear for your life, are you really living in a free and safe country anymore?
When you create an environment that breeds civil unrest, you can’t expect anything good coming out of that.
Man I feel like this will go bad for me in the long run, due to how I look.
Like I’m as integrated as I can get having lived in Ireland for 20 years and now have moved to Berlin.
I can’t help how I look and I was never a refugee in the first place as my parents were immigrants.
Also, I’m gay on top of the brown so like I definitely will never be going back to my “home” country.
I just don’t want to get caught up in the hate of geh refugees which I think is quite justified due to how they’re all behaving (well a lot of them anyway if not all).
Fear mongering by the “bleeding heart syndrome” having uber tolerant and progressive people.
Absolute majority is against diluting culture by importing large amounts of migrants who have no idea of basic work and social etiquete.
Just now these people are becoming more and more vocal, creating appearance that people are becoming more “racist”.
Newsflash – most europeans are on japanese level of xenophobic, due to milenia of wars, occupations, genocides and exterminations.
So, for good reason we want to keep our countries safe and cultures undivided.
This will sound awful but ” better racist than stabbed”
Sadly.. It’s going to get a lot worse if things don’t change.
Of course people are sick and tired. Politicans told us there would be no issues whatsoever, and anyone that had some reasonable criticism was brushed off and accused of being a freaking neo-nazi.
Being a migrant myself, I was immediately labeled a nazi by my fellow students (all Europeans) because I said that not everyone who votes for the far-right are nazis but the majority are rather disillusioned population that does not associate itself with the mainstream political parties anymore.
Traditional parties are so disconnected from the reality that they think what they do is best for everyone without ever talking to the people. Add widespread nepotism in political circles and you get nearly the same situation as with the kings and queens from the past – they lived a luxurious life while their people were suffering.
The labels “racist” and “nazi” are being thrown at people without any understanding what they are is also a problem. A native European who does not want to see his culture and traditions dissappear as a result of foreign influx is neither racist nor nazi, but a patriot. Yet those foreigners who come to Europe and demand from the locals to adjust themselves to their customs, religion, traditions etc. are the actual oppressors and invaders.
Everybody is tired of mass migration of people originating from largely incompatible cultures and religions. The numbers are not manageable and we can’t integrate so many well in our societies without the fabric going completely broken.
I just wish the left could comprehend this so that not so many people felt inclined to vote for ultra right parties.
Germany (and the rest of the EU) should entirely revise its immigration policies towards non-EEA citizens by forging a single immigration policy where it should institute points-based and skills-based immigration system like what Australia and Canada have, and recognize all college diplomas from the developing countries, including the Philippines, as long as non-EEA immigrants have at least three years of employment in their countries of origin. The rest of the EU, particularly Germany and Spain, may recruit tens of thousands of Filipino nurses and teachers from the Philippines to work in the EEA countries in work visa arrangements with clear legal path for permanent residency and citizenship.
Assimilating immigrants in Europe would become smoother if they are forced to bootstrap to work for low-paying jobs that native-born Europeans tend to avoid and not dependent on generous welfare benefits that should have been only enjoyed by native-born European citizens.
I wish there was a socialist+progressive+climate conscious party that is also restrictive with regards to immigration and has strict integration requirements.
I don’t ever remember Europe being known as a “melting pot”
As an immigrant, I rarely experience this in my 8 years. But it is starting to get nasty now.
Oh, the irony sharing this article in this subreddit…
Where are all the progressives who spent the last decade holding up signs encouraging more and more?
They’ve been awfully silent.
Go into any comment section about Palestine and you’ll see so much racism
The irony of sharing this on r/europe lol
The rising racism is very apparent on this subreddit as well
/r/Europe is an extremely volatile subreddit full of rage induced propaganda and misinformation.