The article discusses recent developments in the conflict between Israel and Hamas. The key points mentioned are:
1. Senior Hamas political leadership member Ali Barakeh stated that they did not anticipate a significant response from the US after Hamas attacked Israel.
2. The US provided considerable support to Israel during its conflict with Hamas, which took Hamas by surprise.
3. The US sent a carrier strike group, featuring the USS Gerald R. Ford, closer to Israel and considered sending additional military assets, such as a second aircraft carrier and fighter jets.
4. Later, the US sent Lt.-Gen. James Glynn, a three-star US Marines general, and other military officers to assist Israel in planning its ground offensive into Gaza.
5. Iran, which supports Hamas, has noticed the increased US support for Israel and has issued threats in response.
6. US forces in the region have recently been targeted by Iran-backed militia.
theories and reasons why Hamas might not have anticipated such a significant response from the US:
1. **Historical US Stance**: Historically, while the US has been a staunch ally of Israel, it has not always directly intervened militarily in Israel’s conflicts with Hamas. Thus, Hamas might have assumed that the US would maintain its traditional diplomatic and financial support role without direct military involvement.
2. **Domestic Politics**: Hamas might have believed that the current US administration would be more hesitant to involve itself directly due to potential domestic political repercussions. Every administration’s approach to the Israel-Palestine issue can vary based on its political inclinations, the national mood, and its foreign policy goals.
3. **Shift in Global Power Dynamics**: The global political landscape has been evolving, with powers like China and Russia asserting themselves more. Hamas might have anticipated that the US would be more preoccupied with these larger geopolitical issues and less likely to focus on the Israel-Hamas conflict.
4. **Miscalculation**: It’s entirely possible that Hamas simply miscalculated the extent to which the US would go in supporting Israel this time around. Military and political strategies often involve a series of predictions and assumptions, and not all of them turn out to be accurate.
5. **Symbolic Attacks**: Hamas might have believed that their attacks would be seen more as symbolic resistance rather than a direct challenge warranting significant international intervention.
6. **Deterrence Strategy**: From Hamas’s perspective, launching attacks might be a strategy to galvanize their base, assert their dominance in Palestinian politics against rivals like Fatah, and draw international attention to their cause. They might not have anticipated that this would lead to such a strong US response.
7. **Diplomatic Channels**: Hamas might have received indications, through back channels or other diplomatic means, that led them to believe the US response would be more muted.
Like it was even needed, Israel could wipe the floor with them with no help anyway. Hamas just did something psychotic and now is trying to find excuses.
I would assume the title implies they also expected Arab nations to intervene, because I don’t see Hamas getting any success again the IDF
Biggest evidence of the stupidity of Hamas so far. You would have to be either extremely stupid or literally actually insane to think we weren’t going to be involved in something that (1) involved Israel and (2) has the potential to destabilize the region.
They FAFO
This is what happens when you don’t learn about history.. Just a google search on war history between Israel and countries in the region should tell you that even without US involvement your little terrorist organization had no chance.
We’re done with Afghanistan you idiots, our social calendar is free. Bombing terrorists is like a layup for us.
Look at any and all nations that have made peace with Israel. They’re 1000% better off.
This war handed the US a reason to project military power into the Region again during a time when Russia, China and Iran have been taking advantage of the free real estate the US left behind when we left Afghanistan.
To think the US would sit this one out, with Biden as POTUS, a man who has always supported Israel from a hard-line perspective, was just idiotic.
Did they expect the US and Israel to just say forgetaboutit after murdering 1400 people? Wow, they are even more stupid than I thought…
No, but Iran and Russia who backed their attack did
TIL Hamas is unaware of the US response to Pearl Harbor
Do they get their Intel from Russia or something? How stupid do you have to be to think the US wouldn’t be involved in this?
They also thought their God is all good (somehow) and wanted them to go house to house murdering innocent civilians like they were Japanese soldiers in Nanking.
I was going to ask “are they stupid?” But they’re religious extremist terrorists so obviously yes.
Not too bright, are they?
You weren’t expecting large US involvement by going to war with a nation that the rest of the world refers disdainfuly to as “the 51st US state”?
Hamas is just a tool of other powers. Russia needed a second front opened up to divert munitions from going to Ukraine, so it had Iran pull its Hamas puppet strings and Hamas moved.
Russia also thought it could use its tool, the UN General Assembly, to show rifts in the NATO alliance and activate its third column assets in Western countries, the far left puppets that line up to support Hamas or whatever the Palestinian de jour anti-Israel leadership of the day happens to be.
Hamas underestimated American support for Israel in the wake of 10/7, because 10/7 was *too* much. The word appears to have gone out to Hamas’ wider support network in the diaspora that *something* was going to go down (those Harvard students had their denunciation of Israel ready to go before the motorbikes with hostages were even back in Gaza), but that something turned out to be more than was actually planned, and the US response was not equivocating. The brutality gave Biden the chance to take a leadership stand and, in US politics, simply not equivocating is seen as a political master stroke.
But Russia did realize a significant victory by showing how NATO is fractured when it comes to Israel. France was shown to be the ultimate fair-weather NATO ally, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza in the UN and not even demanding the return of hostages; Spain and Norway were shown to be easily cowed by the threat of Islamic extremism in their own streets into acquiescence to Hamas on the floor of the UN, and even Germany had to abstain. Western values were shown to be a myth everywhere outside of the US, and that was a big victory for Russia that only cost Palestinian lives to accomplish. I’m sure Putin is very pleased, but Hamas is probably not very pleased.
Fuck Hamas i hope we bury them face down under rubble with their asses pointing to Mecca
seems like they don’t have a contingency plan then
Well they’re pretty dumb then. The US rarely passes up an opportunity to jump into a justifiable war.
Iran: *iF yoU gET inVoLed iT WilL stARt a wAR.
US: *Don’t threaten us with a good time.*
I’m joking of course. Dark humor for dark times but they were definitely not thinking clearly if they thought the USA would provide minimal aid.
Hopefully, Israel could divest the world of this group of madmen.
Other than moving a carrier group to the region, the U.S. hasn’t really taken an active role in the conflict beyond our usual blanket support for Israel.
Ummmm, yeah right!! They didn’t “expect” this kinda reaction? Come on now….
I think they were VERY surprised at the 10/7 attack success. I doubt they expected that much terror, and hostages.
Thank god, Biden is president.
Hams, or mullahs in Iran?
Then they are fucking stupid.
If they didn’t think US would aid Israel in every way including financial, diplomatic and direct military aid while they launched the biggest attack on Israel in decades, then they are morons.
I’m getting the impression the folks who run Hamas aren’t that intelligent.
We got a lot of weapons….
Are they Fucking stupid?
>attack strong American ally
>kidnap and kill American hostages
>???
>holy shit the Americans are here how could this have happened???
Even the fucking cartel wanted no part in that dumbassery they handed over the people allegedly responsible for killing Americans
Did they think leaving the Middle East meant leaving for good? You talk shit to somebody as they’re walking away now that backhands gonna have full body momentum coming around
When in history did a war ever go as planned?
The default action is chaos, not a nice linear path to winning.
Are they stupid?
>It is untrue to say there is ‘large U.S. involvement’ in the war. The bottom line is that Hamas started a war with Israel which they are losing. There is no limit to the excuses that Hamas will make for their defeat.
A quote from a comment (the sole comment on the article)
You mean to tell me Hamas was wrong? 🙂 but, (sarcasm here) is a surprise massacre in Israel wrong!?
Overall people are expending unnecessary energy trying to figure out Hamas’s grand strategy.
Slaughtering Jews is not the strategy, it is the end goal.
Should have googled “are Americans rather sensitive to religiously motivated terror attacks that kill civilians?” Or paid any attention to the world for the last 22 years.
The fuck did they expect? No global response to a major terror attack on an ally?
Religious zealots barely do any thinking at all. They think they are the main character but they’re not. There’s a whole universe out there that’s never heard of your stupid prophet that rapes babies.
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The article discusses recent developments in the conflict between Israel and Hamas. The key points mentioned are:
1. Senior Hamas political leadership member Ali Barakeh stated that they did not anticipate a significant response from the US after Hamas attacked Israel.
2. The US provided considerable support to Israel during its conflict with Hamas, which took Hamas by surprise.
3. The US sent a carrier strike group, featuring the USS Gerald R. Ford, closer to Israel and considered sending additional military assets, such as a second aircraft carrier and fighter jets.
4. Later, the US sent Lt.-Gen. James Glynn, a three-star US Marines general, and other military officers to assist Israel in planning its ground offensive into Gaza.
5. Iran, which supports Hamas, has noticed the increased US support for Israel and has issued threats in response.
6. US forces in the region have recently been targeted by Iran-backed militia.
theories and reasons why Hamas might not have anticipated such a significant response from the US:
1. **Historical US Stance**: Historically, while the US has been a staunch ally of Israel, it has not always directly intervened militarily in Israel’s conflicts with Hamas. Thus, Hamas might have assumed that the US would maintain its traditional diplomatic and financial support role without direct military involvement.
2. **Domestic Politics**: Hamas might have believed that the current US administration would be more hesitant to involve itself directly due to potential domestic political repercussions. Every administration’s approach to the Israel-Palestine issue can vary based on its political inclinations, the national mood, and its foreign policy goals.
3. **Shift in Global Power Dynamics**: The global political landscape has been evolving, with powers like China and Russia asserting themselves more. Hamas might have anticipated that the US would be more preoccupied with these larger geopolitical issues and less likely to focus on the Israel-Hamas conflict.
4. **Miscalculation**: It’s entirely possible that Hamas simply miscalculated the extent to which the US would go in supporting Israel this time around. Military and political strategies often involve a series of predictions and assumptions, and not all of them turn out to be accurate.
5. **Symbolic Attacks**: Hamas might have believed that their attacks would be seen more as symbolic resistance rather than a direct challenge warranting significant international intervention.
6. **Deterrence Strategy**: From Hamas’s perspective, launching attacks might be a strategy to galvanize their base, assert their dominance in Palestinian politics against rivals like Fatah, and draw international attention to their cause. They might not have anticipated that this would lead to such a strong US response.
7. **Diplomatic Channels**: Hamas might have received indications, through back channels or other diplomatic means, that led them to believe the US response would be more muted.
Like it was even needed, Israel could wipe the floor with them with no help anyway. Hamas just did something psychotic and now is trying to find excuses.
I would assume the title implies they also expected Arab nations to intervene, because I don’t see Hamas getting any success again the IDF
Biggest evidence of the stupidity of Hamas so far. You would have to be either extremely stupid or literally actually insane to think we weren’t going to be involved in something that (1) involved Israel and (2) has the potential to destabilize the region.
They FAFO
This is what happens when you don’t learn about history.. Just a google search on war history between Israel and countries in the region should tell you that even without US involvement your little terrorist organization had no chance.
Probably shouldn’t have kidnapped & killed Americans then, dumb fucking assholes
We’re done with Afghanistan you idiots, our social calendar is free. Bombing terrorists is like a layup for us.
Look at any and all nations that have made peace with Israel. They’re 1000% better off.
This war handed the US a reason to project military power into the Region again during a time when Russia, China and Iran have been taking advantage of the free real estate the US left behind when we left Afghanistan.
To think the US would sit this one out, with Biden as POTUS, a man who has always supported Israel from a hard-line perspective, was just idiotic.
Did they expect the US and Israel to just say forgetaboutit after murdering 1400 people? Wow, they are even more stupid than I thought…
No, but Iran and Russia who backed their attack did
TIL Hamas is unaware of the US response to Pearl Harbor
Do they get their Intel from Russia or something? How stupid do you have to be to think the US wouldn’t be involved in this?
They also thought their God is all good (somehow) and wanted them to go house to house murdering innocent civilians like they were Japanese soldiers in Nanking.
I was going to ask “are they stupid?” But they’re religious extremist terrorists so obviously yes.
Not too bright, are they?
You weren’t expecting large US involvement by going to war with a nation that the rest of the world refers disdainfuly to as “the 51st US state”?
Hamas is just a tool of other powers. Russia needed a second front opened up to divert munitions from going to Ukraine, so it had Iran pull its Hamas puppet strings and Hamas moved.
Russia also thought it could use its tool, the UN General Assembly, to show rifts in the NATO alliance and activate its third column assets in Western countries, the far left puppets that line up to support Hamas or whatever the Palestinian de jour anti-Israel leadership of the day happens to be.
Hamas underestimated American support for Israel in the wake of 10/7, because 10/7 was *too* much. The word appears to have gone out to Hamas’ wider support network in the diaspora that *something* was going to go down (those Harvard students had their denunciation of Israel ready to go before the motorbikes with hostages were even back in Gaza), but that something turned out to be more than was actually planned, and the US response was not equivocating. The brutality gave Biden the chance to take a leadership stand and, in US politics, simply not equivocating is seen as a political master stroke.
But Russia did realize a significant victory by showing how NATO is fractured when it comes to Israel. France was shown to be the ultimate fair-weather NATO ally, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza in the UN and not even demanding the return of hostages; Spain and Norway were shown to be easily cowed by the threat of Islamic extremism in their own streets into acquiescence to Hamas on the floor of the UN, and even Germany had to abstain. Western values were shown to be a myth everywhere outside of the US, and that was a big victory for Russia that only cost Palestinian lives to accomplish. I’m sure Putin is very pleased, but Hamas is probably not very pleased.
Fuck Hamas i hope we bury them face down under rubble with their asses pointing to Mecca
seems like they don’t have a contingency plan then
Well they’re pretty dumb then. The US rarely passes up an opportunity to jump into a justifiable war.
Iran: *iF yoU gET inVoLed iT WilL stARt a wAR.
US: *Don’t threaten us with a good time.*
I’m joking of course. Dark humor for dark times but they were definitely not thinking clearly if they thought the USA would provide minimal aid.
Hopefully, Israel could divest the world of this group of madmen.
Other than moving a carrier group to the region, the U.S. hasn’t really taken an active role in the conflict beyond our usual blanket support for Israel.
Ummmm, yeah right!! They didn’t “expect” this kinda reaction? Come on now….
I think they were VERY surprised at the 10/7 attack success. I doubt they expected that much terror, and hostages.
Thank god, Biden is president.
Hams, or mullahs in Iran?
Then they are fucking stupid.
If they didn’t think US would aid Israel in every way including financial, diplomatic and direct military aid while they launched the biggest attack on Israel in decades, then they are morons.
I’m getting the impression the folks who run Hamas aren’t that intelligent.
We got a lot of weapons….
Are they Fucking stupid?
>attack strong American ally
>kidnap and kill American hostages
>???
>holy shit the Americans are here how could this have happened???
Even the fucking cartel wanted no part in that dumbassery they handed over the people allegedly responsible for killing Americans
Did they think leaving the Middle East meant leaving for good? You talk shit to somebody as they’re walking away now that backhands gonna have full body momentum coming around
When in history did a war ever go as planned?
The default action is chaos, not a nice linear path to winning.
Are they stupid?
>It is untrue to say there is ‘large U.S. involvement’ in the war. The bottom line is that Hamas started a war with Israel which they are losing. There is no limit to the excuses that Hamas will make for their defeat.
A quote from a comment (the sole comment on the article)
You mean to tell me Hamas was wrong? 🙂 but, (sarcasm here) is a surprise massacre in Israel wrong!?
Overall people are expending unnecessary energy trying to figure out Hamas’s grand strategy.
Slaughtering Jews is not the strategy, it is the end goal.
Should have googled “are Americans rather sensitive to religiously motivated terror attacks that kill civilians?” Or paid any attention to the world for the last 22 years.
The fuck did they expect? No global response to a major terror attack on an ally?
Religious zealots barely do any thinking at all. They think they are the main character but they’re not. There’s a whole universe out there that’s never heard of your stupid prophet that rapes babies.