Could Trump Be Banned From the Ballot? In One State, We’re About to Find Out: A challenge seeks to remove Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot on grounds of insurrection.
by thenewrepublic
Could Trump Be Banned From the Ballot? In One State, We’re About to Find Out: A challenge seeks to remove Donald Trump from the 2024 ballot on grounds of insurrection.
by thenewrepublic
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A lawsuit to remove Donald Trump from one state’s 2024 presidential ballot kicked off Monday, the first of two cases arguing the former president rendered himself ineligible by engaging in insurrection.
Do it and then you will see people being blocked for arbitrary reasons in the future.
Convict first and then have a reason to remove him from the ballot
It’s an interesting legal theory. I think there is a good case to be made that the 14th Amendment bars trump from running for office. But, in practice, I don’t think it’s going to happen.
Unfortunately, there isn’t going to be an easy way out of this. The only way we can ensure that trump doesn’t regain power is to vote for Joe Biden in 2024
https://democrats.org/
It’s got a snowball’s chance in hell. You’re just going to have to beat him at the ballot box.
I really hope this doesn’t happen. Since it doesn’t require a conviction, I can totally see the GOP using this same tactic against eating Dem candidates, and the presidential race will sink even further into a morass of individual state lawsuits.
I am no MAGA fan, but this seems like a strategy that can work equally bad in both directions
This is a dangerous court case that has a tremendous amount of potential to give Trump even more ammunition.
Could actually backfire… if blocked from running, definitely a lot for MAGA to shout and get pumped up about. And could even get overturned with Supreme Court.
If not blocked and allowed to go forward, this will get spun as validation that Trump didn’t contribute to an insurrection.
It is definitely gray area. Without another actual conviction, “insurrectionist” is not very clear.
It’s Colorado for those wishing not to click
Good. I support the 14th amendment. No one who engaged in insurrection is eligible to hold government office. This is an entirely reasonable provision to any government, and is a self-executing condition.
PBS is broadcasting it on their website for anyone who’s interested. I’m trying to stream it as much as I can at work, watching opening arguments (from earlier this morning) right now.
Really hope this bastard is disqualified. He’s earned it.
Isn’t there a rule somewhere that if you’ve tried to overthrow democracy you’re disqualified 🤔?
We’re absolutely not about to find out. There will be court cases, motions, delays, appeals, more appeals, and a Supreme Court case.
I think this will be a long court case I doubt it gets resolved before the next election anyway
He shouldn’t be banned from ballots until/unless he’s convicted. Doing so violates due process but more importantly this will just become a new weapon in the GOP arsenal for any and every Democrat they think might win
Coup me once shame on you. Coup me a second time, your third coup is free!
New Hampshire has already rejected a similar case:
>The judge was “inclined to find, consistent with the weight of authority,” that John Anthony Castro’s claim “raises a nonjusticiable political question.”
>“In sum, the vast weight of authority has held that the Constitution commits to Congress and the electors the responsibility of determining matters of presidential candidates’ qualifications. Castro provides no reason to deviate from this consistent authority,” the judge wrote. “Thus, it appears to the court that Castro’s claim —which challenges Trump’s eligibility as a presidential candidate under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment — raises a nonjusticiable political question. As such, even if Castro did have standing to assert his claim, the court would lack jurisdiction to hear it under the political question doctrine.”
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/boxing-referee-turned-judge-knocks-out-attempt-to-boot-trump-off-2024-ballot-paving-way-for-possible-scotus-bout/
Judges for the remaining cases now have an easy out from ruling on this at all.
Could he: yes.
Will this SCOTUS decide otherwise, because reasons they just pulled out of their empty beer bottle? Probably
God I can’t wait until I don’t have to see that sphincter mouth at the top of my news feed every day.
And they have the worst A/V department in the world. I was watching the stream today and it looked like some highschooler from the 90s was running the show.
Doesn’t he have to CHARGED with insurrection in some jurisdiction first? That hasn’t happened anywhere – state or federal. He’s been charged with lots of things in lots of places, just not insurrection per se.
Don’t get me wrong, not a fan of Trump, I just like seeing things done in an orderly way. This effort just seems like something being thrown out there, hoping it’ll stick.
Let’s take him off the ballot in Maryland too!
They tried this in NH and it didn’t work.
You’re welcome, America.
This is a bad idea and will back fire, Am no fan of Trump or Biden as I think we can do better but you can’t just keep him off no matter how bad you think he is unless there is a conviction, innocent till proven etc etc.
Someone shove a penis in his mouth, his lips are ready,
It’ll be nice to get it confirmed, but I feel like its ultimately uncessesary
Trump should be Unable to run next year on logistics. He’s going to be bouncing around court-rooms for a significant part of next year he’s genuinely not got time to be running
>14th Amendment. Section 3.
>No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
It sounds to me like he is ineligible to serve as US President due to engaging in an insurrection or rebellion against the United States.
Source: The USA Constitution
If I was a US Supreme Court Judge, I would disqualify him. And it wouldn’t even be a close or difficult decision.
If it doesn’t apply to trump…..then what was it for?
I’m not a fan of Trump. That said:
Until there’s a conviction there is nothing legally to base his removal on.
Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? Just because we all want me to be wrong it doesn’t mean that I am.
Yes but not in this court.
Ban him from any ballot. Put him on the register sex offender’s list instead. Oh, and keep him away from his own daughter. EEKS!
It will be funny to see how quickly they MAGAs stop proclaiming about “States rights”
I support the 14th amendment!
Now ban all (ex-)military and (ex-)LEO who were there from the ballots for the same reason.
Best of luck Colorado! I sincerely wish you well.
Not that it matters, Trump fractured the GOP beyond repair. No republican has a chance for presidency. I’m just sad the year the DNC could run anyone and we get Joe Biden, so exciting /s
I love my state
I worry this would only happen in deep blue states trump cant win anyway. Then it will be politicized and the deep red states will pull biden from the ballot because of hunters penis or something. Then this will be our new norm.