**Just over 393,000 births in 2022, -1.7% over the previous year**
Just over 393,000 children were born in Italy in 2022, representing a 1.7% drop over the previous year and taking the birth rate to a new record low, Istat said on Thursday. The downwards trend also seems to be continuing in 2023 as well: according to provisional data, in the first half of the year there was a 1.9% reduction in the birth rate, equal to 3,500 fewer babies born, over the first half of 2022, the national statistics agency said.
ISTAT added that the number of births has been falling uninterruptedly for 15 years, dropping by 31.8% from the record peak of 576,659 births in 2008 to the present level.
The contribution to the birth rate of the foreign population in Italy also seems to be waning, ISTAT said.
In addition, the statistics agency said 41.5% of the children born in Italy in 2022, or 163,317, were born out of wedlock.
The proportion of children born to unmarried parents has risen by 33 percentage points since the start of the millenium, ISTAT added.
Reversing the decline in the birth rate is a stated top priority for the government of Premier Giorgia Meloni.
In the 2024 budget bill the State proposes to cover up to 3,000 euros a year in social-security contributions for working mothers with two children, with the youngest being under 10, and those with three children or more, with the youngest up to 18.
However, other measures in the same package such as raising VAT on baby products such as powdered milk and baby food might seem to go in the opposite direction.
Mama Mia!
Maybe, just maybe…
If young ppl weren’t paid 800€/month to work as fake freelancers they may consider having a family & children
Maybe if young people could afford to move out and have decently paid employment birthrates wouldn’t be so much of an issue
Also if the environment wasn’t such a looming disaster
There is all this talk about young people not having kids and how this is a catastrophe in the making, and then there are tons of articles about how over-population is going to end us all.
I’m not insinuating anything, I just find it weird and somewhat polarizing as a dumbmillenial consum… I mean person.
Genetic suicide.
These declining birthrate stories and massive Muslim antisemitism stories in Western Europe do not bode well for the future.
I’m guessing that It’s the same all over Europe. This is usually the case during recessions.
Yeah maybe give them minimum wage and then those of them who want kids will think about it
Most working age young Italians are in the UK or Germany these days
Central banks permanently broke money and society is falling apart.
People won’t have kids when they can barely keep themselves housed. The difference between generational quality of life and costs of living is fucking absurd.
I must do my duty, matter not how hard it is.
we’re too broke to have kids
I’m always surprised that people advocate higher birth rates just as the number of pensioners starts to peak. For the next 25 years there will be a large number of pensioners, so also having a large number of economically inactive children and students will be an even greater burden on those who are working. Once the wave of pensioners declines, the demographics will even out once again. It seems to me that the main panic people have about demographics is actually more about culture/religion/language than about economics.
How many people die each year in Italy? Whats the delta?
While money does play a role, I think it’s mainly a cultural thing. In some countries having a family and kids is seen as very important, if not the whole goal of life, whereas in other it’s more like something people tend to do as they get older or in some cases even a nuisance.
Besides having children, another factor to consider is what is involved in this process, usually having a partner. Cultural differences also affect the ease, expected standards and possibilities of finding a suitable partner. For people without a partner one must consider the cost, barrier and difficulties involved in raising a child alone.
Taking all the above into consideration it’s not hard to see why most “modern” societies have low birth rates. If anything, one would expect they will get even lower in the future and also affect other countries that adopt this more modern way of living and culture
Meloni, institute the Battaglia delle nascite like your idol
Good. Time for African immigrants to take control.
It’s almost like when real wages don’t increase for 50 years people eventually don’t feel they can lift the burden of children.
I give an example of comparison in South Korea’s extreme low fertility rate of 0.78. Why is Republic of Korea (South Korea), Japan, and some Western European countries struggle to balance or stabilise birth rate? Some young people preferred to stay single much longer depending on income level from intensified inflation last year or 2.
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**Just over 393,000 births in 2022, -1.7% over the previous year**
Just over 393,000 children were born in Italy in 2022, representing a 1.7% drop over the previous year and taking the birth rate to a new record low, Istat said on Thursday. The downwards trend also seems to be continuing in 2023 as well: according to provisional data, in the first half of the year there was a 1.9% reduction in the birth rate, equal to 3,500 fewer babies born, over the first half of 2022, the national statistics agency said.
ISTAT added that the number of births has been falling uninterruptedly for 15 years, dropping by 31.8% from the record peak of 576,659 births in 2008 to the present level.
The contribution to the birth rate of the foreign population in Italy also seems to be waning, ISTAT said.
In addition, the statistics agency said 41.5% of the children born in Italy in 2022, or 163,317, were born out of wedlock.
The proportion of children born to unmarried parents has risen by 33 percentage points since the start of the millenium, ISTAT added.
Reversing the decline in the birth rate is a stated top priority for the government of Premier Giorgia Meloni.
In the 2024 budget bill the State proposes to cover up to 3,000 euros a year in social-security contributions for working mothers with two children, with the youngest being under 10, and those with three children or more, with the youngest up to 18.
However, other measures in the same package such as raising VAT on baby products such as powdered milk and baby food might seem to go in the opposite direction.
Mama Mia!
Maybe, just maybe…
If young ppl weren’t paid 800€/month to work as fake freelancers they may consider having a family & children
Maybe if young people could afford to move out and have decently paid employment birthrates wouldn’t be so much of an issue
Also if the environment wasn’t such a looming disaster
There is all this talk about young people not having kids and how this is a catastrophe in the making, and then there are tons of articles about how over-population is going to end us all.
I’m not insinuating anything, I just find it weird and somewhat polarizing as a dumbmillenial consum… I mean person.
Genetic suicide.
These declining birthrate stories and massive Muslim antisemitism stories in Western Europe do not bode well for the future.
I’m guessing that It’s the same all over Europe. This is usually the case during recessions.
Yeah maybe give them minimum wage and then those of them who want kids will think about it
Most working age young Italians are in the UK or Germany these days
Central banks permanently broke money and society is falling apart.
People won’t have kids when they can barely keep themselves housed. The difference between generational quality of life and costs of living is fucking absurd.
I must do my duty, matter not how hard it is.
we’re too broke to have kids
I’m always surprised that people advocate higher birth rates just as the number of pensioners starts to peak. For the next 25 years there will be a large number of pensioners, so also having a large number of economically inactive children and students will be an even greater burden on those who are working. Once the wave of pensioners declines, the demographics will even out once again. It seems to me that the main panic people have about demographics is actually more about culture/religion/language than about economics.
How many people die each year in Italy? Whats the delta?
While money does play a role, I think it’s mainly a cultural thing. In some countries having a family and kids is seen as very important, if not the whole goal of life, whereas in other it’s more like something people tend to do as they get older or in some cases even a nuisance.
Besides having children, another factor to consider is what is involved in this process, usually having a partner. Cultural differences also affect the ease, expected standards and possibilities of finding a suitable partner. For people without a partner one must consider the cost, barrier and difficulties involved in raising a child alone.
Taking all the above into consideration it’s not hard to see why most “modern” societies have low birth rates. If anything, one would expect they will get even lower in the future and also affect other countries that adopt this more modern way of living and culture
Meloni, institute the Battaglia delle nascite like your idol
Good. Time for African immigrants to take control.
It’s almost like when real wages don’t increase for 50 years people eventually don’t feel they can lift the burden of children.
I give an example of comparison in South Korea’s extreme low fertility rate of 0.78. Why is Republic of Korea (South Korea), Japan, and some Western European countries struggle to balance or stabilise birth rate? Some young people preferred to stay single much longer depending on income level from intensified inflation last year or 2.