It wasn’t an over-extended empire, or generals with imperial ambitions, or no understanding of economics, or invading barbarians, no…it was teh gey.
Uh, it could be over-expansion, corruption, poor leadership, or the decision to divide the empire in two.
But I’m pretty sure that it’s not the gays. 🤣
they insist the LGBTQ peoples are less than 1% of the population … this man sure makes it sound like they have so much power … pathetic if you ask me
He’s thought about this a lot. And gladiators.
By that logic, aren’t “the gays” also responsible for the rise of the Roman Empire?
God! Could imagine the power we have if we did! OMG! It might go to my head…🤦🏼♀️
Rome lasted 800 years and with the Byzantine Empire it really lasted over 1200 years. Truth is people like Mike caused the Western empire to fail. These people like to blame other for their incompetence, the truth is Mike got the job through influence and not merit.
“For the Roman people conferred the consulship and other great offices of their State on none save those who sought them; which was a good institution at first, because then none sought these offices save those who thought themselves worthy of them,and to be rejected was held disgraceful; so that, to be deemed worthy, all were on their best behaviour. But in a corrupted city this institution grew to be most mischievous. For it was no longer those of greatest worth, but those who had most influence, who sought the magistracies; while all who were without influence, however deserving, refrained through fear. This untoward result was not reached all at once, but like other similar results, by gradual steps. For after subduing Africa and Asia, and reducing nearly the whole of Greece to submission, the Romans became perfectly assured of their freedom, and seemed to themselves no longer to have any enemy whom they had cause to fear. **But this security and the weakness of their adversaries led them in conferring the consulship, no longer to look to merit, but only to favour, selecting for the office those who knew best how to pay court to them, not those who knew best how to vanquish their enemies. And afterwards, instead of selecting those who were best liked, they came to select those who had most influence; and in this way, from the imperfection of their institutions, good men came to be wholly excluded**.”
Machiavelli, Niccolò. Discourses on the First Decade of Titus Livius
He spends an awful lot of time thinking about gay people for someone who claims to be straight. Haggard’s Law anyone?
Centuries from now somebody will be saying Christian nationalists ended the US. And they will be right.
The more insane stuff this guy believes in comes to light really reflects how the GOP has given up on doing any due diligence on their candidates and their background. They realized with Trump that they could have almost all the skeletons in the closet come out, it doesn’t matter. Basically the right wing propaganda sphere is like a dome of ignorance that shields conservatives from having to know, or care about any of this. They will only be outraged by stuff they are told to be upset about.
Mike Johnson’s Big Gay Sex Scandal dropping in 3…2…1…
actually there are many reasons why the Roman Empire fell, three of them being
1) political corruption and government failure (sounds familiar)
2) Christianity (ditto)
3) decline of Roman legions (maybe someone was trying to hold the military hostage for their own political gain? )
Very interesting that Rome was at its height of power when raging bisexuals were in charge and fell apart after it became Christian… but it’s the gays’ fault?
Not only is this wrong, it’s anachronistic, since the Romans didn’t structure their sexuality along the heterosexual-homosexual axis.
This is why you don’t get your history from David Barton.
Mike Johnson thinks about gay people way more than any gay person I’ve ever met, and I know a **lot** of gay people, my kid included.
Edit: Also? Can you imagine if gay people had even a fraction of the power right-wing weirdos imagine?
>“Many historians, **those who are objective**, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome, to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society,” he asserted.
There it is. If you disagree with me, you’re just promoting the gay agenda so I won’t pay attention to you, historian. Not only hitting us with the anti-gay stance, he’s throwing in anti-intellectualism as well.
“Many historians, those who are objective, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome, to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society,” he asserted.”
I’m not sure who these historians are but they sure as fuck didn’t study about the roman empire.
It wasn’t until rome became very Christian their society started hating people for being gay and rome was very much in the decline.
Not to mention many of our morals are probably closer to the romans near the end mainly due to Christianity.
> Johnson also voiced strong opposition to marriage equality, bizarrely suggesting it could lead to people marrying their pets and even attributing the fall of the Roman Empire to societal acceptance of homosexuality.
> “Many historians, those who are objective, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome, to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society,” he asserted.
While Christianity did not cause the fall of Rome, it was the predominant religion of the empire when it did. So actually Mike, the exact opposite is true. The Roman Empire fell shortly after homosexuality was no longer widely condoned.
No one can be this fucking obsessed about religion, sex, homosexuality, etc. and not have some serious skeletons in their closet, or probably be in the closet themselves.
Save this comment – I guarantee the media is gonna dig up some serious scandal on this guy in the next month or so, just a matter of time.
The so called sexual depravity of rome is mostly a myth. The roman empire spanned 1000 year. Customs come and go. In 1000 years time you will find times that are more liberal and more conservative, same is true for rome. Hell there are times when the romans were downright prude.
But a certain group of people latched on to and exaggerated every deviancy they could catch a rumor of. It was great propaganda for the church. The propaganda was so effective it made its way in the history books as facts. And now 1600 year old propaganda finally starting to be called out. This is why bullshit spewed from the mouth of the clergy is so dangerous. Idiots take what clergy says as fact.
> reflect a deeper-rooted belief that homosexuality is a choice rather than an inherent trait.
Homosexuality is biology. CHRISTIANITY is a lifestyle choice. It isn’t easy, but you can be counseled out of it.
Not true. My wife and I were there this summer. It’s still very much there.
He definitely is gay. Everything about him screams gay. Nothing like a conflicted, self loathing, closeted, conservative homosexual.
I blame Biggus Dickus
So he’s claiming the gays slayed?
My brother in Christ, the gays BUILT Rome. One of the greatest emperors was a bearded gay man
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It wasn’t an over-extended empire, or generals with imperial ambitions, or no understanding of economics, or invading barbarians, no…it was teh gey.
Uh, it could be over-expansion, corruption, poor leadership, or the decision to divide the empire in two.
But I’m pretty sure that it’s not the gays. 🤣
they insist the LGBTQ peoples are less than 1% of the population … this man sure makes it sound like they have so much power … pathetic if you ask me
He’s thought about this a lot. And gladiators.
By that logic, aren’t “the gays” also responsible for the rise of the Roman Empire?
God! Could imagine the power we have if we did! OMG! It might go to my head…🤦🏼♀️
Rome lasted 800 years and with the Byzantine Empire it really lasted over 1200 years. Truth is people like Mike caused the Western empire to fail. These people like to blame other for their incompetence, the truth is Mike got the job through influence and not merit.
“For the Roman people conferred the consulship and other great offices of their State on none save those who sought them; which was a good institution at first, because then none sought these offices save those who thought themselves worthy of them,and to be rejected was held disgraceful; so that, to be deemed worthy, all were on their best behaviour. But in a corrupted city this institution grew to be most mischievous. For it was no longer those of greatest worth, but those who had most influence, who sought the magistracies; while all who were without influence, however deserving, refrained through fear. This untoward result was not reached all at once, but like other similar results, by gradual steps. For after subduing Africa and Asia, and reducing nearly the whole of Greece to submission, the Romans became perfectly assured of their freedom, and seemed to themselves no longer to have any enemy whom they had cause to fear. **But this security and the weakness of their adversaries led them in conferring the consulship, no longer to look to merit, but only to favour, selecting for the office those who knew best how to pay court to them, not those who knew best how to vanquish their enemies. And afterwards, instead of selecting those who were best liked, they came to select those who had most influence; and in this way, from the imperfection of their institutions, good men came to be wholly excluded**.”
Machiavelli, Niccolò. Discourses on the First Decade of Titus Livius
He spends an awful lot of time thinking about gay people for someone who claims to be straight. Haggard’s Law anyone?
Centuries from now somebody will be saying Christian nationalists ended the US. And they will be right.
The more insane stuff this guy believes in comes to light really reflects how the GOP has given up on doing any due diligence on their candidates and their background. They realized with Trump that they could have almost all the skeletons in the closet come out, it doesn’t matter. Basically the right wing propaganda sphere is like a dome of ignorance that shields conservatives from having to know, or care about any of this. They will only be outraged by stuff they are told to be upset about.
Mike Johnson’s Big Gay Sex Scandal dropping in 3…2…1…
actually there are many reasons why the Roman Empire fell, three of them being
1) political corruption and government failure (sounds familiar)
2) Christianity (ditto)
3) decline of Roman legions (maybe someone was trying to hold the military hostage for their own political gain? )
Very interesting that Rome was at its height of power when raging bisexuals were in charge and fell apart after it became Christian… but it’s the gays’ fault?
Not only is this wrong, it’s anachronistic, since the Romans didn’t structure their sexuality along the heterosexual-homosexual axis.
This is why you don’t get your history from David Barton.
Mike Johnson thinks about gay people way more than any gay person I’ve ever met, and I know a **lot** of gay people, my kid included.
Edit: Also? Can you imagine if gay people had even a fraction of the power right-wing weirdos imagine?
>“Many historians, **those who are objective**, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome, to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society,” he asserted.
There it is. If you disagree with me, you’re just promoting the gay agenda so I won’t pay attention to you, historian. Not only hitting us with the anti-gay stance, he’s throwing in anti-intellectualism as well.
“Many historians, those who are objective, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome, to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society,” he asserted.”
I’m not sure who these historians are but they sure as fuck didn’t study about the roman empire.
It wasn’t until rome became very Christian their society started hating people for being gay and rome was very much in the decline.
Not to mention many of our morals are probably closer to the romans near the end mainly due to Christianity.
> Johnson also voiced strong opposition to marriage equality, bizarrely suggesting it could lead to people marrying their pets and even attributing the fall of the Roman Empire to societal acceptance of homosexuality.
> “Many historians, those who are objective, would look back and recognize and give some credit to the fall of Rome, to not only the deprivation of the society and the loss of morals but also to the rampant homosexual behavior that was condoned by the society,” he asserted.
While Christianity did not cause the fall of Rome, it was the predominant religion of the empire when it did. So actually Mike, the exact opposite is true. The Roman Empire fell shortly after homosexuality was no longer widely condoned.
No one can be this fucking obsessed about religion, sex, homosexuality, etc. and not have some serious skeletons in their closet, or probably be in the closet themselves.
Save this comment – I guarantee the media is gonna dig up some serious scandal on this guy in the next month or so, just a matter of time.
The so called sexual depravity of rome is mostly a myth. The roman empire spanned 1000 year. Customs come and go. In 1000 years time you will find times that are more liberal and more conservative, same is true for rome. Hell there are times when the romans were downright prude.
But a certain group of people latched on to and exaggerated every deviancy they could catch a rumor of. It was great propaganda for the church. The propaganda was so effective it made its way in the history books as facts. And now 1600 year old propaganda finally starting to be called out. This is why bullshit spewed from the mouth of the clergy is so dangerous. Idiots take what clergy says as fact.
> reflect a deeper-rooted belief that homosexuality is a choice rather than an inherent trait.
Homosexuality is biology. CHRISTIANITY is a lifestyle choice. It isn’t easy, but you can be counseled out of it.
Not true. My wife and I were there this summer. It’s still very much there.
He definitely is gay. Everything about him screams gay. Nothing like a conflicted, self loathing, closeted, conservative homosexual.
I blame Biggus Dickus
So he’s claiming the gays slayed?
My brother in Christ, the gays BUILT Rome. One of the greatest emperors was a bearded gay man