People are shocked as if Hamas proved itself to be beyond this, like who could imagine that the group who was proven to have its headquarters under the main hospital and shoots rockets from civilian facilities would use an ambulance to transport weapons and terrorists, really unimaginable
If Russian saboteurs can travel around Ukraine in ambulances then so can Hamas in Gaza.
I’ve leaned definitely against Hamas, and more pro Israel than most in this war, but I must state the following.
If this was a targeted hit, it was extremely poorly aimed, as they struck at the hospital instead of away from it.
Secondly, they did not try to keep civilian casualties down.
Thirdly, while I firmly believe that Hamas would pull this kind of shit, if Israel is wrong or lying, they would have necessary motivation to keep stating this line anyway, it frames the strike in the best way possible for them.
This one is hard to justify given those facts and probabilities from an external lens.
Oh come on
Of course they said that.
Woah the Israeli intelligence really picked up the pace. A month ago they didn’t know that the largest attack by Hamas in the decades was launching despite warning from other intelligence agency and now they know the content of ambulance.
If you’re going to set a precedent that it’s acceptable to bomb hospitals and ambulances, I’d want to see a lot more proof from multiple **independent** sources that the same hospitals and ambulances were in fact used to wage war.
I haven’t forgotten how non-existent *”weapons of mass destruction”* were used to justify the invasion of Iraq.
>On Feb. 5, 2003, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell sat in front of members of the U.N. Security Council. But with the world watching, Powell made a case for war.
>”My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources — solid sources,” he said. “These are not assertions. What we’re giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.” Powell used information that intelligence officials assured him was credible. There were reconnaissance photos, elaborate maps and charts, and even taped phone conversations between senior members of Iraq’s military.
>”Saddam Hussein has chemical weapons,” Powell said. “Saddam Hussein has used such weapons. And Saddam Hussein has no compunction about using them again — against his neighbors, and against his own people.” Powell repeatedly used one phrase during his hour-long speech: “weapons of mass destruction.” He said those words a total of 17 times. It was the phrase the Bush administration kept publicly using to help justify invading Iraq.
>Powell later called his U.N. speech a “great intelligence failure” and a “blot” on his record, telling NBC News’ Meet the Press in 2004 he trusted the information he’d gotten.
I’ve seen some of the footage in Gaza at their carefully planned attacks. There are holes in residential areas half the size of the Las Vegas sphere… the bombs are going everywhere, I thought there were hostages they want to rescue???
Having seen many other videos of IDF members laughing about killing all the animal Palestinians I wouldn’t trust the IDF one bit. They are as much a terrorist organisation as Hamas are and they act legally under Neranyahu even though they commit war crimes on the daily. Its so fucking sad
I don’t buy it
IRGC uses the same tactic to surpass protests, so don’t doubt it
The alternative doesn’t make any sense, what strategic value is an ambulance of wounded civilians? Does that help in any military or PR sense? Or just wasting valuable ammo for kicks yes? People are being unmasked left right and centre with what they are chosing to believe
If it were a legitimate military, I would have my doubts about a claim like this. But for Hamas? Yeah, totally plausible that they would pull something like this.
Of course it fucking did. What the hell does Israel have to gain from bombing an ambulance?
Honestly that’s believable since hamas using their headquarter in the hospital so if course they using the ambulances.
Source Caution :’Ynetnews’ Israeli leaning / based paper – grain of salt as per usual.
So the IDF, the same group that was seemingly oblivious to the planning for the attacks on October 7th, knows every nook and cranny that Hamas uses for hiding stuff?
Says Israel, a country that has lied.
Sure bro
What we know is that the convoy was heading south, when one ambulance was “directly targeted” by a missile. The convoy then was heading back to the hospital when another ambulance was struck (but probably not “directly targeted”), just outside the hospital.
That’s according to the Palestinian Red Crescent Society in the following article but Hamas officials say the same.
It’s unclear if IDF claims responsibility for the first strike, the second or both. All the videos, photos and reports are about what happened outside the hospital, though.
How many war crimes does that make? I’ve lost count.
>Ynet (stylized as ynet) is one of the major Israeli news and general-content websites, and is the online outlet for the Yedioth Ahronot newspaper. However, most of Ynet’s content is original work, published exclusively on the website and written by an independent staff.[1][2]
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People are shocked as if Hamas proved itself to be beyond this, like who could imagine that the group who was proven to have its headquarters under the main hospital and shoots rockets from civilian facilities would use an ambulance to transport weapons and terrorists, really unimaginable
If Russian saboteurs can travel around Ukraine in ambulances then so can Hamas in Gaza.
I’ve leaned definitely against Hamas, and more pro Israel than most in this war, but I must state the following.
If this was a targeted hit, it was extremely poorly aimed, as they struck at the hospital instead of away from it.
Secondly, they did not try to keep civilian casualties down.
Thirdly, while I firmly believe that Hamas would pull this kind of shit, if Israel is wrong or lying, they would have necessary motivation to keep stating this line anyway, it frames the strike in the best way possible for them.
This one is hard to justify given those facts and probabilities from an external lens.
Oh come on
Of course they said that.
Woah the Israeli intelligence really picked up the pace. A month ago they didn’t know that the largest attack by Hamas in the decades was launching despite warning from other intelligence agency and now they know the content of ambulance.
If you’re going to set a precedent that it’s acceptable to bomb hospitals and ambulances, I’d want to see a lot more proof from multiple **independent** sources that the same hospitals and ambulances were in fact used to wage war.
I haven’t forgotten how non-existent *”weapons of mass destruction”* were used to justify the invasion of Iraq.
>On Feb. 5, 2003, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell sat in front of members of the U.N. Security Council. But with the world watching, Powell made a case for war.
>”My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources — solid sources,” he said. “These are not assertions. What we’re giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.” Powell used information that intelligence officials assured him was credible. There were reconnaissance photos, elaborate maps and charts, and even taped phone conversations between senior members of Iraq’s military.
>”Saddam Hussein has chemical weapons,” Powell said. “Saddam Hussein has used such weapons. And Saddam Hussein has no compunction about using them again — against his neighbors, and against his own people.” Powell repeatedly used one phrase during his hour-long speech: “weapons of mass destruction.” He said those words a total of 17 times. It was the phrase the Bush administration kept publicly using to help justify invading Iraq.
>Powell later called his U.N. speech a “great intelligence failure” and a “blot” on his record, telling NBC News’ Meet the Press in 2004 he trusted the information he’d gotten.
[20 years ago, the U.S. warned of Iraq’s alleged ‘weapons of mass destruction’](https://www.npr.org/2023/02/03/1151160567/colin-powell-iraq-un-weapons-mass-destruction) [npr]
This whole thing sucks and it’s spreading
I’ve seen some of the footage in Gaza at their carefully planned attacks. There are holes in residential areas half the size of the Las Vegas sphere… the bombs are going everywhere, I thought there were hostages they want to rescue???
Having seen many other videos of IDF members laughing about killing all the animal Palestinians I wouldn’t trust the IDF one bit. They are as much a terrorist organisation as Hamas are and they act legally under Neranyahu even though they commit war crimes on the daily. Its so fucking sad
I don’t buy it
IRGC uses the same tactic to surpass protests, so don’t doubt it
The alternative doesn’t make any sense, what strategic value is an ambulance of wounded civilians? Does that help in any military or PR sense? Or just wasting valuable ammo for kicks yes? People are being unmasked left right and centre with what they are chosing to believe
If it were a legitimate military, I would have my doubts about a claim like this. But for Hamas? Yeah, totally plausible that they would pull something like this.
Of course it fucking did. What the hell does Israel have to gain from bombing an ambulance?
Honestly that’s believable since hamas using their headquarter in the hospital so if course they using the ambulances.
Source Caution :’Ynetnews’ Israeli leaning / based paper – grain of salt as per usual.
So the IDF, the same group that was seemingly oblivious to the planning for the attacks on October 7th, knows every nook and cranny that Hamas uses for hiding stuff?
Says Israel, a country that has lied.
Sure bro
What we know is that the convoy was heading south, when one ambulance was “directly targeted” by a missile. The convoy then was heading back to the hospital when another ambulance was struck (but probably not “directly targeted”), just outside the hospital.
That’s according to the Palestinian Red Crescent Society in the following article but Hamas officials say the same.
[https://www.zawya.com/en/world/middle-east/palestinian-red-crescent-condemns-israeli-strike-on-gaza-ambulance-convoy-ohvnxxgn](https://www.zawya.com/en/world/middle-east/palestinian-red-crescent-condemns-israeli-strike-on-gaza-ambulance-convoy-ohvnxxgn)
It’s unclear if IDF claims responsibility for the first strike, the second or both. All the videos, photos and reports are about what happened outside the hospital, though.
How many war crimes does that make? I’ve lost count.
>Ynet (stylized as ynet) is one of the major Israeli news and general-content websites, and is the online outlet for the Yedioth Ahronot newspaper. However, most of Ynet’s content is original work, published exclusively on the website and written by an independent staff.[1][2]
Source: [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ynet)
At this point, ynetnews is just a spokesperson of IDF.
So crazy that Israel didn’t see October 7th coming but they have the resources to track every member of Hamas now