If, in doing so, we get to call Suella and co extremist and jail them for it, that’s a deal I’m willing to make.
Of course the guardian are putting their spin on this. Anyone in their right mind is rightly disturbed by this pro-palestine movement. This can’t come quick enough for me.
Good luck on defining British values because no one seems to agree and everyone seems to be an authority.
They already required things like nurseries to promote ‘british values’ but couldn’t define them. My kids nursery bad a list including ‘holding hands’ which is almost a British anti-value. Shockingly missed tutting, queueing and apologising when someone else bumps into you even when it’s wholly their fault.
This is just another step in that direction, yet people blithely accept it because it’s framed as being against today’s *bad guy*. The frog is slowly being boiled and it’s worrying how many people refuse to even consider the need to jump out of the pot.
Can we jail the extremists running our government then?
“Extremism is the promotion or advancement of any ideology which aims to overturn or undermine the UK’s system of parliamentary democracy, its institutions and values.”
So, Boris Johnson attempted to overturn parliamentary democracy, and it is Tory Party policy to abolish the human rights act.
Tories just defined themselves as extremists who need to be locked up.
Sounds pointless unless they also define their list of ‘British values’, else case going to court would be thrown out for lack of evidence.
Seems more like a scare tactic, like the old Tory Section 28 that said schools couldn’t promote homosexuality without ever defining what ‘promoting’ it was, so no one was ever charged.
Good. We like to shit on the UK here, but the fact is we’re one of the most socially progressive countries on the planet, and I say this as an immigrant. Anyone who tries to undermine our values such as equality of the sexes, personal freedom in terms of sexuality, religious freedom/freedom to not be religious, etc deserves to have the hammer brought down on them hard.
We have a growing group of people in the UK who want Sharia law. The UK is not a Muslim country and Sharia law is incompatible with our values. These people need to be told that undermining the absolute core values of the UK is not accepted. It’s the intolerance paradox.
Yeah the government definitely needs more power to shut down protests and lock people up for thinking the wrong thing.
The next GE can’t come fast enough, we need to get these authoritarian nutters out of power for everyone’s sake.
Jesus, who decides that? Is UK values = current gov policy? So we are just jailing all the opposition now? Would that also include the Judges that have ruled against the government?
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If, in doing so, we get to call Suella and co extremist and jail them for it, that’s a deal I’m willing to make.
Of course the guardian are putting their spin on this. Anyone in their right mind is rightly disturbed by this pro-palestine movement. This can’t come quick enough for me.
Good luck on defining British values because no one seems to agree and everyone seems to be an authority.
They already required things like nurseries to promote ‘british values’ but couldn’t define them. My kids nursery bad a list including ‘holding hands’ which is almost a British anti-value. Shockingly missed tutting, queueing and apologising when someone else bumps into you even when it’s wholly their fault.
Just another step in the incredibly authoritarian direction our state is going in. In the past few years we’ve seen the Public Order Bill allow the police to shut down any protest defined as being a [‘nuisance’](https://www.amnesty.org.uk/blogs/campaigns-blog/public-order-bill-explained) and the Online Safety Bill grant the government [sweeping surveillance powers over our online communications](https://www.eff.org/pages/uk-online-safety-bill-massive-threat-online-privacy-security-and-speech).
This is just another step in that direction, yet people blithely accept it because it’s framed as being against today’s *bad guy*. The frog is slowly being boiled and it’s worrying how many people refuse to even consider the need to jump out of the pot.
Can we jail the extremists running our government then?
“Extremism is the promotion or advancement of any ideology which aims to overturn or undermine the UK’s system of parliamentary democracy, its institutions and values.”
So, Boris Johnson attempted to overturn parliamentary democracy, and it is Tory Party policy to abolish the human rights act.
Tories just defined themselves as extremists who need to be locked up.
Sounds pointless unless they also define their list of ‘British values’, else case going to court would be thrown out for lack of evidence.
Seems more like a scare tactic, like the old Tory Section 28 that said schools couldn’t promote homosexuality without ever defining what ‘promoting’ it was, so no one was ever charged.
Good. We like to shit on the UK here, but the fact is we’re one of the most socially progressive countries on the planet, and I say this as an immigrant. Anyone who tries to undermine our values such as equality of the sexes, personal freedom in terms of sexuality, religious freedom/freedom to not be religious, etc deserves to have the hammer brought down on them hard.
We have a growing group of people in the UK who want Sharia law. The UK is not a Muslim country and Sharia law is incompatible with our values. These people need to be told that undermining the absolute core values of the UK is not accepted. It’s the intolerance paradox.
[Lewis Prothero Speech (V for Vendetta)](https://youtu.be/flBpsyFbEOs?si=_Ei-_r_cDz4Td4hI)
Yeah the government definitely needs more power to shut down protests and lock people up for thinking the wrong thing.
The next GE can’t come fast enough, we need to get these authoritarian nutters out of power for everyone’s sake.
Jesus, who decides that? Is UK values = current gov policy? So we are just jailing all the opposition now? Would that also include the Judges that have ruled against the government?